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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: Goodrich on April 24, 2011, 08:18:30 PM
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I got my oil changed to synthetic at 930 miles and I'm at 980 now. Granted, I weigh 265 but I've heard of people getting another 5mph out of DT. It was on a flat stretch of road with no wind to speak of in any direction. I'm not noticing any break-in at all...rides the same way the day i got it. ??? Well Syl, silver may very well be the fastest color. :-\
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Yeah.. that's low.. a friend of mine got about 88 indicated, and his GPS said 81mph..
Seems slow for a 30hp scooter.
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Gotta wonder if North American emissions requirements aren't limiting it... I know some of the 50cc scooters come extremely restricted.
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Yeah.. that's low.. a friend of mine got about 88 indicated, and his GPS said 81mph..
Seems slow for a 30hp scooter.
That is my indicated top speed with 20 hp/250 cc.
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Gotta wonder if North American emissions requirements aren't limiting it... I know some of the 50cc scooters come extremely restricted.
God forbid, the polar ice caps might melt if we don't choke the 50cc scooters. ::)
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I've heard the engine takes a while to fully free up. I would guess every engine may be a little different and some may taqke longer than others..........
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I've heard the engine takes a while to fully free up. I would guess every engine may be a little different and some may taqke longer than others..........
A local mag had had one with 6000km on the clock, they got 90 out of it indicated,
and GPS said 84mph.
Not bad, but not fast enough for that kinda power.
In the same review, they managed to reach the same GPS corrected speed with
the Xciting 300Ri which is "only" 23hp!
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A local mag had had one with 6000km on the clock, they got 90 out of it indicated,
and GPS said 84mph.
Not bad, but not fast enough for that kinda power.
In the same review, they managed to reach the same GPS corrected speed with
the Xciting 300Ri which is "only" 23hp!
WTF?!? ???
Btw. if the transmission ratio is short so it has top speed like 21-23 hp scoot, it should accelerate like hell from standstill.
If it does not, then it is one f'ked up scoot.
Why would somebody pay more for nothing... >:( :( :o
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WTF?!? ???
Btw. if the transmission ratio is short so it has top speed like 21-23 hp scoot, it should accelerate like hell from standstill.
If it does not, then it is one f'ked up scoot.
Why would somebody pay more for nothing... >:( :( :o
Motorevija measured the acceleration at around 11 seconds to 100km/h, while the Xciting 300Ri
was clocked at 13,X seconds, and all the other 250-300 scoots in the comparo were from 13s
(X7 300ie being the fastest) to 14s.
However, there were some 'reports' that the 11,X time is actually to 120km/h, and just today
I found a guy who had a test ride on one and clocked it at 8 seconds to 100km/h, and the
dealer said it was a stock scooter (he used a cell phone GPS w/ performance software).
..but everyone thinks that the scoot has a malossi multivar installed, and most youtube clips
confirm the 8 sec time with multivar.
Just for reference, the 2007 Yamaha Majesty 400 (395cc, 34hp, a few more KGs though..)
will do 100km/h in 14 seconds, but the newer Majesty 400 is supposed to accelerate to 100
in 11 seconds.
If the DT300 can reach 100 in under 10 seconds, it's faster then the Xciting 500.
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(http://oi51.tinypic.com/voqrs5.jpg)
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(http://oi51.tinypic.com/voqrs5.jpg)
Interesting how fast the X-Max is.. with only 20hp!
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What do you say about P250S, 12.1 sec 0-100, top speed 133 indicated (measured 125).
50-100 km/h the best acceleration of all 250s.
http://www.motopuls.hr/images/stories/TESTOVI/T078/078UT_Skuteri_vel_kotaca.pdf (http://www.motopuls.hr/images/stories/TESTOVI/T078/078UT_Skuteri_vel_kotaca.pdf) , page 14, table on the right.
p.s Mine shows higher top :) :)
p.p.s. How did they manage to make Xciting 300 slower than P250S? It`s pure art.
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What do you say about P250S, 12.1 sec 0-100, top speed 133 indicated (measured 125).
50-100 km/h the best acceleration of all 250s.
p.p.s. How did they manage to make Xciting 300 slower than P250S? It`s pure art.
I say put on the multivar 2000 and drop at least a second or two if that's what floats your boat ;)
It sure is impressive.
I've heard that the ugly Grand Dink 250 is faster then the Piaggio 250 crowd (X8) by a rather
big margin, but never confirmed that.. and I tried the B&W 250 and was very impressed with
the engine, but only after trying the Runner 200. The B&W is faster without a doubt!
Who knows what's going on with the Xciting 300.. but it's plenty fast for it's rated power, and
we obviously can't say that for the Downtown.. :(
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I say put on the multivar 2000 and drop at least a second or two if that's what floats your boat ;)
It sure is impressive.
I've heard that the ugly Grand Dink 250 is faster then the Piaggio 250 crowd (X8) by a rather
big margin, but never confirmed that.. and I tried the B&W 250 and was very impressed with
the engine, but only after trying the Runner 200. The B&W is faster without a doubt!
Who knows what's going on with the Xciting 300.. but it's plenty fast for it's rated power, and
we obviously can't say that for the Downtown.. :(
A bit about mid-range.
Living there, I guess you do not know what 17 % uphill looks like. ;)
This will sound incredible, but up 17 % hill I am able to overtake Beverly 250 with single driver, while I am two up... and two up in my case means +190 kg.
Quite incredible, it is very fast, just if it had a bit better quality of build...
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A bit about mid-range.
Living there, I guess you do not know what 17 % uphill looks like. ;)
This will sound incredible, but up 17 % hill I am able to overtake Beverly 250 with single driver, while I am two up... and two up in my case means +190 kg.
Quite incredible, it is very fast, just if it had a bit better quality of build...
I've just read the 250cc comparo you posted.. they mentioned that the Beverly 250 had
the transmission set up for top speed and it had the worst acceleration times so..
You'd probably like the new GT300i...
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I've just read the 250cc comparo you posted.. they mentioned that the Beverly 250 had
the transmission set up for top speed and it had the worst acceleration times so..
You'd probably like the new GT300i...
Could be, but as I said, I am drawing the line for scoots around 250 cc.
More than that and I am going for a bike.
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Could be, but as I said, I am drawing the line for scoots around 250 cc.
More than that and I am going for a bike.
I can understand your apprehension. I was looking at the Suzuki Burgman, both 650 and 400. The 650 may as well be a fully fledged motorcycle. The 400 was just shy of being a motorcycle. Both were just too heavy, even the 400 at 500lbs is a monster to move around walking it. The Downtown 300i at less than 400lbs is a breeze to walk backwards from the seat on level ground. Placing it on the center stand is effortless as well. With the low weight crawling maneuverability is there as well.
For years I was looking to get a 150-250cc but I need something that is not too scary on the GSP here at 75 MPH. anything less and you could get run over. Also NJ state regulation is a minimum of 250cc for the GSP and the Turnpike. The DT 300i fits the bill nicely. While I only now have 50 miles on it I took a short jaunt to 65 MPH and it was hardly even breathing hard.
Around town I find I never need more than ¼ of the throttle for a brisk run. I usually only have to feather the right grip to keep up with traffic flow.
All I can say is find a dealer with one and try the size and fit for yourself. You may end up being surprised by how much of a scooter this really is……………….
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I don't like posting "me too"'s, but I have to say reading this thread that I feel quite smug about mine.
I've had 93mph on the satnav, and 0-60mph at 7.8 seconds. Seems like I have an optimal machine.
As far as I know it is a stock machine, and I bought it new last year, (in fact it was the first into the UK).
However, after fifteen hundred miles odd, I can't say I've noticed any improvement over these figures due to running in.
Still, who needs it...
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I don't like posting "me too"'s, but I have to say reading this thread that I feel quite smug about mine.
I've had 93mph on the satnav, and 0-60mph at 7.8 seconds. Seems like I have an optimal machine.
As far as I know it is a stock machine, and I bought it new last year, (in fact it was the first into the UK).
However, after fifteen hundred miles odd, I can't say I've noticed any improvement over these figures due to running in.
Still, who needs it...
I would ask though, how much do you weigh? Also toyr height etc. I am 240 LBS and 5'11" so I know my size isa a detriment...........
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Unfortunately the answer is 5'11" and 265lbs!
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I don't like posting "me too"'s, but I have to say reading this thread that I feel quite smug about mine.
I've had 93mph on the satnav, and 0-60mph at 7.8 seconds.
It is good that you obviously got a good machine, but I would say that 0-60 in 7.8 is not possible.
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Ah, well, it's the fact that is important, not the belief...
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Would love to see a video of the fact along with what RPM's it gets too etc. If your fuel doesn't have the 10% ethenol that could be a contributing factor too. Since shipped UK bikes seem to be metric, KPH, did you do 7.8 seconds to 96 KPH?
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Couldn't honestly say that it was exacty 60 mph, or 7.8 seconds for that matter.
Just something slightly less than 8 seconds on a stop watch, when hitting approximately the 100kph mark on the speedo.
Given a slight error in the clock, (around 5% on mine), the thickness of the needle and the human eye's ability to read a vibrating stop watch, we could argue the toss over splitting it, but it was there or thereabouts.
As to the the ethanol, I believe it's currently only around 5% in the UK, but not even sure what difference that makes, assuming that the petrol isn't allowed to stand and evaporate!
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Ethanol is known to lower power output and MPG.............
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This chap reakons you can do it in even less than 7.8 seconds!
http://www.dragtimes.com/video-viewer.php?v=BiAdnd4O4jo (http://www.dragtimes.com/video-viewer.php?v=BiAdnd4O4jo)
Although I have difficulty in believing the top speed on the clocks!
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I don't like posting "me too"'s, but I have to say reading this thread that I feel quite smug about mine.
I've had 93mph on the satnav, and 0-60mph at 7.8 seconds. Seems like I have an optimal machine.
As far as I know it is a stock machine, and I bought it new last year, (in fact it was the first into the UK).
However, after fifteen hundred miles odd, I can't say I've noticed any improvement over these figures due to running in.
Still, who needs it...
Sounds amazing for a stock bike..
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It is good that you obviously got a good machine, but I would say that 0-60 in 7.8 is not possible.
There's more then a few vids that are between 6 and 8 seconds to 60mph on youtube.
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There's more then a few vids that are between 6 and 8 seconds to 60mph on youtube.
That's close to 50 hp 2-cyl ER-5.
I have seen Godzilla on the Internet.
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That's close to 50 hp 2-cyl ER-5.
Which can also reach 60mph a lot faster with shorter gearing, but shifts
will still last the same.. and you don't loose time with that on CVT.
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The majority of the FAST video's the bikes are modified with added air filter, exauhst and rollers. Also you will find the riders are fairly small and/or light.
I am talking real world with an overweight rider. Also all my times etc are sitting normally, no tucking in and/or crouching down. I am 0-60 at about 9 seconds, if I were to shave 100 LBS from myself I am sure I would be in the 8 second or under times (this is with DR pulley 20x12 14 gram).
I have the stock air filter but have the Lightech on order now. That will be a while as Canada was the only location I could order from and they are not in stock as far as I know.
I might consider a high flow muffler but it would have to be QUIET and in reality those two things do not mix. That is quiet and high flow! Because I am not doing the muffler I expect very little if anything from the air filter other than washable rather than replacable.
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The majority of the FAST video's the bikes are modified with added air filter, exauhst and rollers. Also you will find the riders are fairly small and/or light.
I am talking real world with an overweight rider. Also all my times etc are sitting normally, no tucking in and/or crouching down. I am 0-60 at about 9 seconds, if I were to shave 100 LBS from myself I am sure I would be in the 8 second or under times (this is with DR pulley 20x12 14 gram).
I have the stock air filter but have the Lightech on order now. That will be a while as Canada was the only location I could order from and they are not in stock as far as I know.
I might consider a high flow muffler but it would have to be QUIET and in reality those two things do not mix. That is quiet and high flow! Because I am not doing the muffler I expect very little if anything from the air filter other than washable rather than replacable.
This looks nice:
(http://kymco.hr/images/acc/dt/8.jpg)
Our local dealer listed a few accessories/mods on the official web:
http://kymco.hr/index.php/125-500cc/207 (http://kymco.hr/index.php/125-500cc/207)
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Yeah, saw that one and it is expensive. Apparently you can get it in silencer versions for race or street too..................
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Yeah, saw that one and it is expensive. Apparently you can get it in silencer versions for race or street too..................
Cool.. how much was it?
I bet it's twice as much here.
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ooops not the same
http://www.fullexhaustshop.com.au/Zard_Silencer__Penta_SteelAluminium_Black__Racing_Kymco_Downtown_300__2010--product--2006.html (http://www.fullexhaustshop.com.au/Zard_Silencer__Penta_SteelAluminium_Black__Racing_Kymco_Downtown_300__2010--product--2006.html)
a video though;
光陽 NIKITA 200 300 REMUS 排氣管 è²æµª 消音塞未拔 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH9VnxOrijs#)
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ooops not the same
http://www.fullexhaustshop.com.au/Zard_Silencer__Penta_SteelAluminium_Black__Racing_Kymco_Downtown_300__2010--product--2006.html (http://www.fullexhaustshop.com.au/Zard_Silencer__Penta_SteelAluminium_Black__Racing_Kymco_Downtown_300__2010--product--2006.html)
Zard?
Sounds like an ice-cream manufacturer.
Looks very good though.
I wouldn't change the exhaust on a scooter though..
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Zard?
Sounds like an ice-cream manufacturer.
Looks very good though.
I wouldn't change the exhaust on a scooter though..
Edited and added a video, but I agree................
Sorry another edit, this is a must have................ :)
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