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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Whisper on March 25, 2011, 01:26:16 PM
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I like to fancy myself as quick-witted. And tall. And mouth-wateringly sexy. But reality has been rather unkind towards my self-perception as of late (only the quick-witted part).
I KNOW overfilling the gas tank - As warned about in the manual of many scoots - Will fill the charcoal canister, clog it, and cause hard starting.
I try HARD to not overfill. I stick the nozzle ALL the way in the tank. I try to slow down when I think the tank is near full. But despite my efforts I have a 50% rate of having the gas overflow the tank and pour all over the scoot. Immediately followed by passionate cursing.
WTF could I be possibly doing wrong not to get the pump to click off!?! Do any of you have a surefire trick? This is not a problem on any other vehicle =(.
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I like to fancy myself as quick-witted. And tall. And mouth-wateringly sexy. But reality has been rather unkind towards my self-perception as of late (only the quick-witted part).
I KNOW overfilling the gas tank - As warned about in the manual of many scoots - Will fill the charcoal canister, clog it, and cause hard starting.
I try HARD to not overfill. I stick the nozzle ALL the way in the tank. I try to slow down when I think the tank is near full. But despite my efforts I have a 50% rate of having the gas overflow the tank and pour all over the scoot. Immediately followed by passionate cursing.
WTF could I be possibly doing wrong not to get the pump to click off!?! Do any of you have a surefire trick? This is not a problem on any other vehicle =(.
Never had a problem in my whole life with filling the tank, never had a problem with overfilling it (even when I did that, I experienced no ill effects) and when I stop the nozzle filling the tank, it pours maybe 30-40 cc of gasoline. If you are in USA maybe gas pump "pistols" are different than ours in Europe and continue filling for some time after you stop them.
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We get a little extra after it 'clicks' off too. My problem as of late is - 50% of the time it clicks off when the tank is full - Good times! The other 50% I get a petrol geyser coming out of the fill hole. No clicky off. >:(
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I get that geyser too, Whisper! Too often. I've learned to guess at how much petrol it's going to take and stop before it gets there. Just stop. So I don't always get it quite filled. I've tried listening closely while pumping cause you can sometimes hear when it gets nearly full but that doesn't always work either.
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The secret is to NOT stick the nozzle into the tank. Hold it just above the tank opening so you can see into the tank. Stop pumping when the tank gets full. Most pumps will let you pump at a much slower rate. Use this feature when approaching full.
While we're talking about gas stations, here's a cool one:
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One more thing about the Super 8, it will take more gas if it is on the centerstand instead of the sidestand.
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My Grand Vista has a gas gauge, so I turn the key on (but engine off) when I buy gas and stop filling when the gauge gets to 4 bars (5 bars is full).
It has worked every time so far.
The gas that dribbles out after shutoff usually brings the gauge up to five bars.
Scoot safely,
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I haven't overfilled more than once but maybe carry a little container and when you get close to the top you can stop, fill the little gas can and then fill the scooter. I realise that you will look like an idiot doing this but you will look slightly less stupid than painting your scooter with gasoline. :P
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I keep with me a 1.05gal rotopak tank for two reasons. One of them is used for emergencies on the really long road trips. The other is used when I stop by the roadside and offer the small amount of gas to those 12 miles to the gallon SUVs... most people give me a 10spot for the gas.
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I've only added gas once to the DT 300 but more times to the S200 but I practise as one stated in here. Fill so far pull the nozzle out somewhat just enough to see the metal ring in the opening pout slowly until you see the level near or of course no further than the ring. I am a pretty much newbie so I hope I can keep doing well with this! Later I purchased a can (plastic) 2 1/2 gallon for the S200 and it had a nozzle that when placed in the tank, it would stop when the tank fuel hit the nozzle. I couldn't understand it at first but, when placing the nozzle into the tank one has to sort of punch it in to get the nozzle to start working.
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I've watched many cyclist's at the pumps and observed how at a certain point in filling they pulled the nozzle out, tilted it and watched closely the rest of the fill. Many had a rag in their hand also!!
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Just for the record here by the way, I know that the individual who started this post is far from an idiot! He's got a good head on them shoulder's. That's worth a full tank!
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I keep gas in a gas can at home and most the time I fill it up by hand right out of can that helps for over filling. but yet I do fill up at gas station just dont go to full.
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I keep the trigger just barely pulled the whole time. At 2 gallons, it doesn't take that much extra time. I've found this to work pretty much everytime.
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I keep the trigger just barely pulled the whole time. At 2 gallons, it doesn't take that much extra time. I've found this to work pretty much everytime.
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Are you dealing with a reclamation hose or a straight, non-foreskinned hose?
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I am in California and we ONLY have the second style of nozzles. They are vapor recovery nozzles designed to reduce the amount of fuel that evaporates during fueling. For some people they can make great gas geysers with a lot of gas on the ground.
I found I had to hold my gas hose nozzle in the 9-11 o'clock position on my P250 for the shut off to work correctly. I have 2.2 gallon tank and it's right at 2.0 gallons when the gas light comes on. I slow down the filling process to the slowest I can when I get to 1.7 gallons and let it fill the rest of the tank very slowly. I have had very few geysers since starting this. I am guessing the bubbly gas is not allowing the fill sensor to work correctly
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I decided to get gas this morning and took a gallon container with me and filled it up,might be good option,I almost overfilled my scooters tank to,some pump are just to fast flow..
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I REALLY appreciate all the ideas!!! I think I'm going to use SEVERAL to prevent the gas-splosion form geysering out of my tank. I think your right - If the pump isn't horizontal, maybe the clicky shut off mechanism gets dodgy.
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I REALLY appreciate all the ideas!!! I think I'm going to use SEVERAL to prevent the gas-splosion form geysering out of my tank. I think your right - If the pump isn't horizontal, maybe the clicky shut off mechanism gets dodgy.
DO NOT DEPEND ON THE SHUT OFF MECHANISM. I don't and I don't have the problems you do. Shut it off yourself.
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