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Scooters - 50cc => People 50 => Topic started by: alpha300 on February 25, 2011, 10:25:53 AM
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I wanted to be able to ride 2-up with my wife on a People 50cc 4t. Judging by the responses I have received so far on a previous post, it seems it is not going to work out very well.
I am at ease with not being the fastest thing on the road. I have gone for rides with my wife on a 50cc 2T before and found it acceptable and enjoyable.
I have now decided that my only option (other than getting a different scooter) is to have a 80cc big bore kit installed professionally. (Am I right?)
Unfortunately, I have no idea which brands/models of 80cc big bore kits are considered good ones. There seem to be several. Does anybody have real world experience with a 80cc big bore kit?
I would also like to know what other parts might have to be upgraded at the same time for best reliability.
Is there anything else I should consider (again, aside from getting another scooter).
Any help would be much appreciated.
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you are probably gonna hear malossi...
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Thanks Dreflu.
OK so that's 1 pt for Malossi!
Any other brands that have a good reputation for 80cc kits?
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I haven't found a Malossi 80cc kit yet. However I have found a Polini 80cc kit that is supposed to fit the People s50 4t.
Here's the link: http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/P1250007/Racing+cylinder+POLINI+80cc+4T.aspx (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/P1250007/Racing+cylinder+POLINI+80cc+4T.aspx)
It sells for roughly $250-270 usd. Anybody know anything about the Polini Kit?
Its more than double the price of the chinese ones on ebay. Are the ones that sell for 70-100 dollars any good?
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I know you don't want to hear this but you are about to ruin your scooter and waste a lot of money . Just my opinion . Good luck .
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Juice,
Thanks for your honest and direct opinion.
Can you elaborate on your statement that I would ruin the scooter? What specifically would go wrong?
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Your scooter was designed and built with a 50cc motor to be used by one person . There are scooters with motors , frames , brakes and suspensions that are designed to be able to safely carry more than one person . Unless you have a master mechanic and vast financial resources you would be better served to get a scooter that was designed and built to suit your needs .
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I haven't found a Malossi 80cc kit yet. However I have found a Polini 80cc kit that is supposed to fit the People s50 4t.
Here's the link: http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/P1250007/Racing+cylinder+POLINI+80cc+4T.aspx (http://www.sip-scootershop.com/EN/Products/P1250007/Racing+cylinder+POLINI+80cc+4T.aspx)
It sells for roughly $250-270 usd. Anybody know anything about the Polini Kit?
Its more than double the price of the chinese ones on ebay. Are the ones that sell for 70-100 dollars any good?
i saw these on ebay a while back and was wondering the same thing.
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I know you don't want to hear this but you are about to ruin your scooter and waste a lot of money . Just my opinion . Good luck .
he has a point here!!
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Gonna keep the scooter stock for now....
However, I going to keep the option of the big bore kit in mind.
If anyone has first hand experience on performance and longterm reliability please let us know.
Thanks!
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Mallosi, polini, stage6,...
A lot of people here will tell you it's a bad idea. That it won't work or will ruin your scooter.
Forget it. If you want to do then do it. Use quality parts and realize 1, you won't see mammoth gains and 2, you have now made another part of the scoot the weak link.
Best mode of increasing performance is upgrade transmission... Variator, weights, clutch, clutch and torque springs... Belt even... Then open air filter, exhaust and carb jet. Then big bore kit, bigger carb...
Lots of steps that yeah, will cost more and require more set up and possibly more headaches than buying a bigger scoot.
But then you'd have a stock big scooter and not a bad ass tricked out little scooter!
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I totally agree with your comments Glopezz.
I have always preferred the " bad ass, tricked out little scooter" way of thinking over the standard logical choice.
I am going to take your advice take it step by step... I have always enjoyed tinkering. This is going to be fun!
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I totally agree with your comments Glopezz.
I have always preferred the " bad ass, tricked out little scooter" way of thinking over the standard logical choice.
I am going to take your advice take it step by step... I have always enjoyed tinkering. This is going to be fun!
just please dont spend 1000 on a 80cc kit.... look around...
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Yeah, a grand is way too much.
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Well, how much would you charge if I asked you to install an 80CC KIT, New carb, cams, cdi etc... parts and labour?
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My wife and I (she's 140 lbs, I'm 185) have been riding our 2007 People S50 4t two-up for going on three years now with no problems. It's a little slower getting to max speed (about 35mpg) with two of us, but it gets there, even on moderate hills. The scooter is stock except for being derestricted. The scooter just turned 6,000 miles and we've had no problems, even here in South Texas where most of the year it's hot and in the summer, it's _extremely_ hot. Many of our rides have been more than an hour long at full throttle. The scooter doesn't seem to mind a bit.
By the way, I've been riding motorcycles for nearly 30 years and currently own and ride a 1972 CB 750 and a 1994 Honda ST1100. I'm quickly becoming a convert to scooters though.
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Thank you for your comment Batavicus. It has been one of the first positive comments regarding 2 up riding on a 50cc 4t I have encountered so far!
It has reassured me that the People s50 4t will be FINE for my wife and I to take LEISURELY rides on. Most of the streets that we would ride on are flat and have a speed limit of 50 km/hr (31 mph) or lower!
I plan on getting down to my fighting weight of 170 lbs and she's a perfect 117 lbs. A total of 287 lbs sounds reasonable to me.
I'll be able to ride in April... I'll be sure to post my conclusions then.