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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: glopezz05 on February 11, 2011, 02:59:57 PM
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I have never used my kick starter but I know a lot of you do.
What method do you use the most?
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I have never used my kick starter but I know a lot of you do.
What method do you use the most?
DO not forget that for most of us, there is just one method. :)
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My Xciting doesn't have a kick starter.
Neither our MP3 and our Doodo.
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I wish my Xciting had a kickstarter. I'd use it more than electric starter -- hoping it were well built enough not to break.
With the electric starter, I turn key on, wait for the fuel pump to stop it's clicking, then push button. Getting my idle speed up to spec was most helpful in keeping the battery strong enough for good, easy starts.
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I use the starter... as I have no other choice.
But to extend this topic into usefulness... I always use the centerstand and let the bike stay on the stand until it warms until the idle goes down, the clutch releases, and the rear wheel stops spinning fast.
Do you let your bike warm all the way up before riding? I don't like the bike pushing on me at stop lights and stalling since the rear clutch hasn't released yet.
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Do you let your bike warm all the way up before riding?
No, never, it is not necessary, it is counterproductive etc.
Fire up the engine, wait 15-20 secs if it is cold for the oil to flow through the engine and off I go.
However, you will often encounter people with OCD that think they are doing some good to the vehicle if they wait while the engine works in place... no reason.
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@TechGuy
Your idle is too high. Rear wheel shouldn't spin.
Imho normal idling is 1400 rpm, cold start idling 1600-1800, clutch engages at 2000-2500.
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Noticed in the cold recently that I need a good 15-30 seconds of low speed untill my scoot doesn't feel sluggish.
Thats as close to warming up as I get.
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@TechGuy
Your idle is too high. Rear wheel shouldn't spin.
Imho normal idling is 1400 rpm, cold start idling 1600-1800, clutch engages at 2000-2500.
It only does it when it's cold. The normal idle is 1700~1800 per the Kymco service guide (page 1-2). I know the RPMs are higher when its cold. It was in the low 40*F this morning but it has always spun the wheel during warm up. When the bike settles down to a fully warmed idle, the clutch releases and the wheel no longer free-wheel spins.
The P250 has a carb and the auto-bystander that warms up and idles down to normal RPMs when the engine is warmed. The RPMs were set by my reputable and experienced Kymco mechanic. It has done this everytime I have started the bike for the past 17,000 km I have owned the bike.
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It sounds like fairly normal cold engine action to me.
I have been riding in temps down in the 20's and it will start right up the vast majority of the time.
The rear wheel is going to spin as the auto choke does its thing.
Letting it idle for a long time is a waste of fuel and is not great for the engine. The air cooled engine needs air and it will cool down better if in motion.
I usually start it, get my helmet and gloves on and off I go. When it is cold it will hesitate, but not for long.
If you feel like you are warmed up in a matter of seconds then you should have no complaints.
It has been my experience that most scooters and motorcycles take a real ten minutes of riding to truly warm up.
I have not been able to kick start the Super 8 yet...I need to figure that out.
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elec. start most the time when temps are below 35 I do kick start I do do a few slow kicks to get the gas moveing then one big kick and let it it worm up for a few the colder it is the longer the worm up.
agiltys dont run to good in the cold unless they are wormed up good.
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Properly tuned, the wheel might spin at cold idle... but only so fast that you could easily stop it with light pressure.
Back on topic. I've only started my S200 with the kickstart once. I didn't have to, but I wanted to see how well it worked. Glad I have electric starter.
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i press teh button
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The warm up kind of depends on what your first few miles of ride are like. If you know you're going right out into busy traffic with stops and crossing at busy intersections, then you don't want any sluggishness or stalling at all! So best to really warm it up. If your first few miles are a quiet lazy road with not much traffic, it really doesn't matter -- just go.
Every scooter will be a little different. Carbed vs. injected makes a difference I suppose.
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If my life depended on my ability to kick start my scooter, I would be a goner! ;D
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Out of the dozen or so bikes I've had, from 50 cc to 750 cc, this is the first one that even had electric start! I feel like such a pansy, pushing that start button. :D
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I always use my electric starter when its cold, but then my kick start when its warm.... dont no why I just do :)
A Friend of mine has a Peugeot Speedfight MK1 Which the electric start works, but when its warm it still turns the engine but the coil wont generate a spark, so he has to used to kick start :)
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those that do or have used the kick start...
do you kick it from the side or when you're stradling the bike?
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I've always done scooters while standing at the side.
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I've always done scooters while standing at the side.
Well, this thread and a number of questions in it are quite strange.
p.s. It is not possible to kick start most scoots in any other way but on a center stand. Especially Kymcos.
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Well, this thread and a number of questions in it are quite strange.
p.s. It is not possible to kick start most scoots in any other way but on a center stand. Especially Kymcos.
strange questins?...
I was just wondering if most people stood to the side or straddled their scooter before kickstarting it.
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I have two motorcycles with kick starters. I straddle them when starting since the kickstarter is on the right. My Super 8 has the kick starter on the left so I stand beside it so I can still use my right leg. It usually starts with one or two kicks. If I had to choose between having only kick start or only electric start I would pick the kick starter. In practice I use the electric starter more often but I really like having the kickstarter as a backup.
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by "kick start" do you mean like this?
Turning on my sexy Genuine Buddy scooter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMl6OnTwqcQ#)
;D
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Hee hee! That's priceless. Thanks, MrKymco!
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you guys with those kick starters have all the fun !!! im stuck with a yeager have only has a electric start , in fact since it is also injected it starts so fast sometimes it starts when i just look at the button ? i think.