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Title: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on March 30, 2025, 08:56:35 PM
Since my MG Nevada 750 is completed and  my wife is sincerely convinced that, man need to be busied, a new project was granted to me.

An abused MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4 valve found its way into my shop and has to be converted in a Cafe Racer with a vintage touch. See first pics. Will update once in a while.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Iahawk on March 31, 2025, 01:18:09 PM
looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on March 31, 2025, 02:34:25 PM
looking forward to this one!

As are we all Hawk!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on April 03, 2025, 07:01:27 PM
Next steps were done:
-motor out, glass pearl blasted
-primered and coated
-in again
-valves adjusted, 4V easy as 2V (before painting)
-pointers and capaciters renewed
-ignition done
fresh brainstorming because I looked up my archives and found a beautiful rear chromed/inox fender, which made me think over the cafe racer version to another, we'll see...
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Iahawk on April 03, 2025, 08:07:01 PM
You must have your own blasting cabinet? I’m jealous! Motor looks like new.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: monkeybongos on April 03, 2025, 10:10:25 PM
I wish you lived next door, Rufus
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on April 04, 2025, 08:26:45 AM
Motor looks like new.

It truly is a peach!  Makes me kinda wish I got that Le Mans all those years ago when I took the Triumph route.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on April 04, 2025, 07:32:47 PM
@Iahawk, not own blasting cabin, but a friend with an industrial size walk in blaster which I can use.

@Neil, yes the LeMans would be an option too, with the stronger engine and Lafranconis, there are still some around. I checked one some time ago, that one must have been in saltwater or close by, eaten up most of it. Hole corrosion on engine and frame.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: wymple on April 25, 2025, 04:09:23 AM
I had the V65C 2 valve.  Stone dead reliable. Any speed, all day long. Nigasil cylinder coating never wears. There were issues with the 4 valve Larios, tho they made more power.  You should research that as I don't recall much.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on April 25, 2025, 06:29:32 PM
..some progress,
abandoned the idea of straight carbs outside, would harm riders knees and touch side panels.

Wanted to have the old Carabinieri mono seat, so I had to change the panels to home made.
The change from mechanical regulator/diodebox to electronic regulator/ rectifier was more challenging for the wire loom had to be redone and stowed away in Larios innert.

Also new rear light and indicators which demanded new cablage...

@wymple
Yes, this 4 valve motors are notorious for their broken  valve shafts, which causes a serious (writeoff) engine hit.
But this is the beauty in this game with oldtimers.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Iahawk on April 25, 2025, 07:45:52 PM
Ruffus, you may need to start your own Youtube channel to showcase your restoration and custom work on these beautiful bikes! I know I'd subscribe!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on June 10, 2025, 08:08:44 AM
Final on this Lario V65, frame and parts were repainted, new carburators with cones, brake calipers tuned up, brake discs overhauled, LED indicators and headlight, etc. All in all an enjoyable work. Its fun to ride since I reduced weight for about 20 kilograms to an overall weight of ca.150 kgs, as said said, great to push her around corners and roundabouts.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on June 10, 2025, 10:24:18 AM
Another quality restoration there Ruffus.  She truly is a thing of beauty now.  Well done!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Iahawk on June 10, 2025, 12:19:34 PM
beautiful bike, Ruffus! How does she ride? Will you keep her or send her on to a good home?
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on June 10, 2025, 03:21:39 PM
Txs all!
Will keep her for a while to enjoy this lightweight. It is really fun to push through bends like on a 250 but with a torque of a 650, sidechanges create the big smile, particular  especially on new Pirellis which I got today.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on June 11, 2025, 08:21:55 AM
Txs all!
Will keep her for a while to enjoy this lightweight. It is really fun to push through bends like on a 250 but with a torque of a 650, sidechanges create the big smile, particular  especially on new Pirellis which I got today.

Doesn't new rubber transform the ride?!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on June 11, 2025, 12:05:56 PM
Doesn't new rubber transform the ride?!

@Neil, depends on your ride and riding performance 🤭.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on June 11, 2025, 04:03:20 PM
Doesn't new rubber transform the ride?!

@Neil, depends on your ride and riding performance 🤭.

Back in the day I had no chicken strips after 200 miles on new rubber, these days, not so much!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on June 11, 2025, 06:31:23 PM
Neil, was more referring to american meaning of rubber.🤭

To raise some cost awareness for tire price and mounting here in Italia:
Front  PIRELLI MT 75 100  80 - 16  €50,69
Rear   PIRELLI MT 75 120 80 - 16  €61,59

Both wheels brought into tire shop,
2x new valves,
2x balanced.,
2x old off - new tires on,
2 old disposed  all in all €35 ,-
that's a deal.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on June 12, 2025, 08:41:15 AM
Neil, was more referring to american meaning of rubber.🤭


Doh!  See Ruffus, to the pure at heart all is pure!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on June 12, 2025, 08:46:38 AM

To raise some cost awareness for tire price and mounting here in Italia:
Front  PIRELLI MT 75 100  80 - 16  €50,69
Rear   PIRELLI MT 75 120 80 - 16  €61,59

Both wheels brought into tire shop,
2x new valves,
2x balanced.,
2x old off - new tires on,
2 old disposed  all in all €35 ,-
that's a deal.

That is good Ruffus.  My last rear tyre on my Triumph, a Pirelli Diablo Rossi III cost £160 all in by my Mobile Fit guy.  Came to my house removed old tyre and installed new one taking away the old tyre carcass.  So the cost in Italia is much better I think?  Last scooter rear cost £126.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Iahawk on June 12, 2025, 03:58:06 PM
Ruffus, I had Pirelli MT 75s on my People S200! I wasn’t aware they were still available new. GREAT prices on tires and mounting, I’m jealous.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on June 13, 2025, 08:48:36 AM

.hawk, actually these PIRELLIs weren't my first choice, but to get here this 16' tires in the right widh and hight took some search (price is a parameter too).
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: JJJoseph on June 13, 2025, 08:56:32 AM
How very excellent! Love the photos :-)
Title: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on October 02, 2025, 05:26:01 PM
Since nearly nothing on this bike is as it was once, thought it would be fun to have tachymeter and odometer digital. Gives a more disdinguished look (😅).
RPM counter needs a 12V plus and minus, a third cable goes at the MINUS of the RH ignition coil.
(seen 4000 piece was there just for measurement, replaced by an 8000)

ODOMETER has several (seven) cables and a GPS receiver, which has to have quasi optical "sight" to satelites to work properly.

All in all with background illumination and adjustment an easy task to achieve.

Both gauges needed to be mounted somewhere, well, found a piece of scrap aluminium, cutted out and fixed it on already present "dashboard".
Title: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on October 02, 2025, 06:35:31 PM
...and, there is no peace until last items are manhandled.

Came across a pair of "Lafranconis", not quiete for this model of MotoGuzzi but close enough, for the homemade black tubes were annoying throaty.

Needed new carrier-plates to what I fortunately had a piece of INOX...

To top this follyness, a nearly new pair of footrests from a MotoGuzzi Florida V65 was installed.
I think my vintage colleagues are shedding tears already.
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Neil955i on October 03, 2025, 08:59:59 AM
When complete, we need 360o video of it running!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Iahawk on October 03, 2025, 12:45:06 PM
When complete, we need 360o video of it running!

yes!!
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on October 03, 2025, 03:12:32 PM
Never a fan of the Guzzi and their awkward looking engine. From my youth was impressed by the quiet mechanical sounds when standing near a running BMW* - but, Ruffus - your work is impressive!
Well done.

Stig

* perhaps because I was born in Munich?
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: randyo on October 03, 2025, 03:36:25 PM
Neil, was more referring to american meaning of rubber.🤭

To raise some cost awareness for tire price and mounting here in Italia:
Front  PIRELLI MT 75 100  80 - 16  €50,69
Rear   PIRELLI MT 75 120 80 - 16  €61,59

Both wheels brought into tire shop,
2x new valves,
2x balanced.,
2x old off - new tires on,
2 old disposed  all in all €35 ,-
that's a deal.

where are you finding MT-75s ?    I searched for a set for my K-Pipe, no find, 
Title: Re: NSR, MotoGuzzi V65 Lario 4valve, new patient..
Post by: Ruffus on October 03, 2025, 06:23:53 PM
Never a fan of the Guzzi and their awkward looking engine. From my youth was impressed by the quiet mechanical sounds when standing near a running BMW* - but, Ruffus - your work is impressive!
Well done.

Stig

* perhaps because I was born in Munich?

Well, here the say goes "BMW engines are GUZZIS with sagging cylinders".