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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: codger78 on January 05, 2011, 05:37:35 PM

Title: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 05, 2011, 05:37:35 PM
scooterwest.com (among other sites for scooter parts) SEEM TO SAY ??..that there is a $16+/-  30 watt xenon headlight bulb that can be used in an Agility 125 (and therefore maybe ?? in an Agility 50) scooter.
If this is realllllllly true......I sure would be willing to spread a little bread to get better night time riding.
Anyone have wisedom on this subject... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: blue on January 05, 2011, 09:15:57 PM
just dont melt the h out of everything.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 05, 2011, 11:12:02 PM
Blue....That was one of the things that I was worried about.  The plastic shield and maybe the reflector may not take the heat of the xenon bulb Espectially in the heat of the summer just sitting and idleing for a few minutes. 
Of course that doesn't matter much if you can't get it somehow into place to begin with...and then there is the additional wattage, though it does not seem like much more than the original head light bulb.
I have to wonder if Kymco could not have afforded a little bit better head light.  It works well enough where the streets are well lit, but not so good elsewhere for spotting the rough pavement etc. after dark. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: CONLEY on January 06, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
IS IT THE SAME WATTAGE AND IS THERE A WARRANTY OF SOME SORT AGAINST IT MELTING THE PLASTIC
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 06, 2011, 08:15:47 PM
Conley.....Thanks for the info....Have you, or do you know of anyone else that has made this conversion from incond. to xenon, and what are the pit falls or hints in actually doing it??? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: blue on January 07, 2011, 12:15:50 AM
just rember your scott runs off a battery and the stater so watt and the amps you are running matters.
You well need to find lights that can handle what power your stater puts out. if to high of watts or amps you well do damage. Or make sure the lights have a fuse on theam so that well blow with out hurting anything.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 07, 2011, 03:29:39 AM
Thanks Blue...I don't know anything about the electrical system in the scooter.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: aokark on January 09, 2011, 10:17:38 PM
I just finished installing my HID kit in my agility 50
Had to do some soldering and modifications but I like how it turned out. Will probably do some other modifications later on :)

Here are some pics:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4898/16706210150389866380721.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4898/16706210150389866380721.jpg)
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2981/16449610150389868555721.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2981/16449610150389868555721.jpg)

Sorry for the bad pics, don't have anything better than a metropcs phone camera hehe
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: oswaldters on January 09, 2011, 11:45:23 PM
Certainly looks brighter.

Should give you a much better view of the road at night.

Let us know how it works in practice. 
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: aokark on January 10, 2011, 12:11:10 AM
works really good :)
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: Rianna on January 10, 2011, 12:16:49 AM
Looking Good, aokark!!
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: blue on January 10, 2011, 12:26:56 AM
Did you have to cut out the head light cover so it well not melt.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: aokark on January 10, 2011, 02:26:07 AM
The headlight cover is the same, only difference is the socket for the bulb which I changed to steel... :) The bulb is at a distant where it won't melt the plastic.

If anyone is interested, this is the place I ordered my stuff from: http://www.ddmtuning.com/ (http://www.ddmtuning.com/)
They have great prices but their products seem to have very good quality. Their shipping takes a while, they seem to have a lot of orders to process... Took about 9 work days to get it.

Edit: Oh for those who don't know. When the light starts up it draws just under 6 amps, and then down to 3 when it's warm.

Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: Rianna on January 10, 2011, 04:08:46 AM
That's great, aokark. I know you're gonna enjoy it!
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 10, 2011, 04:30:46 AM
aokark..........Thanks for the info and pics.
I guess you went for one of the motorcycle HID kits..........couldn't tell which one.....can you give the kit or model number.
I guess you don't have any trouble with the 6 amp draw when starting the scooter up, or do you turn the lamp on after start-up(??)
How did you go about adjusting and/or focusing the lamp.  I would think some of that needed doing before you started drilling holes or making permanent installation.....or not???...does it have a high and low beam( or any problem shining in the eyes of oncoming motorists)..can it be readjusted if necessary after installation?
Does it take the road pounding without any special cushioning?
..........Looks good.......what haven't I thought to ask....Well, what problems if any did you run into.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: aokark on January 10, 2011, 02:26:37 PM
I went with this one http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Single-HiLo-Motorcycle-HID-Kit (http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Single-HiLo-Motorcycle-HID-Kit)
It basically uses a magnet to change the aim of the bulb so it works as a high/low beam.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Single-Motorcycle-HID-Kit (http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Single-Motorcycle-HID-Kit)
This one would work just fine if you just want to aim it one way and go with it.

It's up to you what you want to do but pick the 35W bulb :)

When you remove the headlight front you will see a screw on the back, you can aim the reflector with it. I have the low beam aimed down quite a bit so it doesn't bother anyone, but high enough to light up the road. You could ask a friend with a car to help you, so he can tell you if it's blinding him. I'm sure there are worse roads out there to ride on but so far I haven't had a problem with no special protection.

The biggest problem I ran into was that I didn't know what socket the bulb was and the connector for the switch so I just made my own but not too hard if you're a little handy. But I can say right now, don't expect it to be plug and play... You will most likely have to do some kind of modification but from what I could see it was just those two things.

Good luck and don't be scared to experiment! :)
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 10, 2011, 06:52:27 PM
aokark.........Thanks again for all the detail.  Enough for anyone to get set up...........Umm..about the socket and the connector for the switch......are you saying that you made them both?
If so....the picture I get is that you first entirely removed the existing lamp, socket and wiring...and then filled the open hole with an arrangement of your own making and then bolting it in somehow............Thats OK......just clearing it up.

Also.......when finished was it connected so that the headlight powered up with the ignition switch (like the original equipment)..or do you turn it on manually?

As you can see.....I'm trying to suck your brain dry for any little bit of wisdom LOL... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: blue on January 11, 2011, 12:21:32 AM
Boy the more I read this Im geting ideas my self for my fog lights.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: aokark on January 11, 2011, 02:18:44 AM
I removed the old light completely but kept the wire that was going down from the switch to the light. In the headlight cover I used the existing hole but modified it to so the HID light bulb could fit.
I wired it so I can turn it off, but it can be on when ignition goes on as well. I am thinking of getting two LED's to have as a day light on the sides of the headlight cover and have them on and the HID off.
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: CONLEY on January 11, 2011, 06:06:26 PM
damn that looks nice we need pics of it at night!!!
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: codger78 on January 12, 2011, 01:04:58 AM
aokark..................INGENIOUS !!....It's too cold to work in the shed right now (for these old bones), but I am very interested in seeing what I can do with your xenon headlight in the coming spring...Maybe by then they will be back in stock too.....In the mean time please let me/us in on anything else that you may be doing.
Stay warm and happy ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Xenon headlight ?????
Post by: aokark on January 12, 2011, 02:33:45 AM
Too many projects in my head, not enough time :)
School is killing my free time... but not having a garage or real room to work in really makes things harder.
Got my computers, my furnitures, my scooter, balcony etc... I'll get there though ^^