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Title: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 24, 2022, 04:47:23 AM
Got in on trade 2014 700i the reverse light neutral high low light all stay on and will crank but not start
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 24, 2022, 05:24:20 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 24, 2022, 06:29:12 PM
Hello welcome to the forum!

Fellow owners will probably like as much info as you can provide on your 8 yr old traded Kymco. Mileage,  wrecks, recent  service history...condition, how long has the old gas sat on it!  .last time it ran,, etc!

Stig
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 24, 2022, 10:04:57 PM
Bout all I know about it I just got it I know that sometimes it will start and only the natural light will stay on but all the light came back on and it will die
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: CROSSBOLT on November 25, 2022, 01:49:59 AM
Do you have a multimeter?
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 25, 2022, 02:08:14 AM
yes
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 25, 2022, 02:16:40 AM
good fuel pressure good spark good battery voltage i was thinking gear selector switch does anyone know how to bypass it to see for sure its hit and miss sometimes all the lights for the p n h l r and then sometimes just n and it will fire up
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: CROSSBOLT on November 25, 2022, 02:16:26 PM
Are you pushing on the brake pedal while trying to start?
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 25, 2022, 06:34:15 PM
It's in neutral
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 25, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
It's in neutral
Yes, but are you pushing on the brake pedal while trying to start?
Stig
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 25, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
No but it has started without doing so
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 25, 2022, 11:35:39 PM
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Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 25, 2022, 11:36:19 PM
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Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 26, 2022, 12:04:27 AM
I can unplug the gear Selector switch and the lights still come on when I crank it and stay on maybe problem is from ecm to display ? Anyone have a pin out of ECM and display
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: CROSSBOLT on November 26, 2022, 12:00:26 PM
No but it has started without doing so
I have a 500i and it has in the owner's manual the instruction to apply brake while attempting start. The reality is you really have to push hard.

Gggnnnaaaatt! Wrong! Instuction book makes no mention! But I MUST push on brake pedal or starter won't turn over.

Won't be the first time the book does not match the hardware.
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: randyo on November 26, 2022, 04:24:39 PM
Yes, but are you pushing on the brake pedal while trying to start?
Stig

the UXV450i does not require depressing the brake pedal when in neutral. When starting in gear, or park, you must depress the brake.
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: airshot on November 26, 2022, 09:20:52 PM
Your best bet is to get a factory service manual and go from there.  You need to start with basic testing..."battery good" is not a test, we need actual numbers like 12.6 volts.  "Good spark" means nothing, spark will jump a 1/4" gap and is blue not yellow, that is a test result. Etc...real test numbers are needed.  Next thing is a real compression test with numbers....
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on November 27, 2022, 05:20:34 PM
It's already started I know those things are good it's a electronic problem I have the online repair manual bout not much in it about ecm
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: airshot on November 27, 2022, 05:42:24 PM
the UXV450i does not require depressing the brake pedal when in neutral. When starting in gear, or park, you must depress the brake.

Out of habit, I always push the brake pedal, needed or not!!  I rarely use neutral, just leave it in gear due the the sometines difficulty of changing gears when sitting.  After 7 years of ownership I just do things from habit....if anyone ask what my starting proceedure was, I would have to think about it,   old habits dont take much thought !!
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: airshot on November 27, 2022, 05:47:45 PM
It's already started I know those things are good it's a electronic problem I have the online repair manual bout not much in it about ecm

Wow...my printed manual on my 450i does have a small trouble shooting area but not a whole lot.  I have found some differenxes between the online and the printed version, which is why I bought both....hopefully prepared if any issues occur !!!  From my reading there is little to trouble shoot on ECM's, most have just tried swapping with a known good one and see if that makes a difference
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: randyo on November 27, 2022, 08:34:34 PM
Out of habit, I always push the brake pedal, needed or not!!  I rarely use neutral, just leave it in gear due the the sometines difficulty of changing gears when sitting.  After 7 years of ownership I just do things from habit....if anyone ask what my starting proceedure was, I would have to think about it,   old habits dont take much thought !!

I nearly always park in neutral, cause it's the only gear that doesn't get sticky, ever
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: Bj580 on December 04, 2022, 03:15:46 AM
what determines input to ecm the the gear selector switch or the clutch diode
Title: Re: 2014 crank but no start
Post by: randyo on December 04, 2022, 05:22:53 PM
what determines input to ecm the the gear selector switch or the clutch diode

very likely, both