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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: Cortez on November 16, 2010, 03:39:00 PM
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Is it just me, or there isn't a Downtown 125i/300i subforum here?
We need one ASAP.
Kkthnx!
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Is it just me, or there isn't a Downtown 125i/300i subforum here?
We need one ASAP.
Kkthnx!
Considering the price, at least in our country, (125 cc for the price of other 300 cc scoot; 300 cc for the price of other 500 cc scoot), it will not be exactly necessary to open it...
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Considering the price, at least in our country, (125 cc for the price of other 300 cc scoot; 300 cc for the price of other 500 cc scoot), it will not be exactly necessary to open it...
The price of the 300 is the same as the Nexus 300 for example.. it't not THAT expensive, and considering it's
got the power of most 400cc scoots, I don't think it costs too much.
There's a nice review from 'motorevija' on kymco.hr web site, it won the 7 250-300cc scoot comparo, the xciting 300ri
was 5th! I can't seem to find a single negative thing about it, other then wanting a few more HP, but I'm thinking it would
do nicely anyways.
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The DownTown 300i has been approved for Canada for 2011. I am waiting to get mine so would like a place on here for it as well.
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I ask for a downtown subforum, independing on 125/300.
Here at Spain, the Kymco Super Dink 125i it is probably one of the most sold scooters. ¿why? because if you have a driving licence for car, you can drive motorcycles up to 125 cc or 15 cv. (I believe 15 cv is the same that 15 hp) probably at the whole europe it is the same or probably similar. We are changing laws in order to get the same at everywhere (more or less this is the idea, i think).
I don't know there, but here there are something more than 1000 euros of difference between the 125 and the 300i, but if you want to drive a 300, you need to get a new licence for motorcycles between 15 and 47 hp, if my memory is fine.
I think that this is the reason of the superior sales of this model.
So, that's the reason for asking the subforum...... jejeje
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if you have a driving licence for car, you can drive motorcycles up to 125 cc
That's a good deal kiki.
In America you can only drive a 50 cc scooter without getting the upgraded license.
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if you have a driving licence for car, you can drive motorcycles up to 125 cc
That's a good deal kiki.
In America you can only drive a 50 cc scooter without getting the upgraded license.
Same here, only 50cc, but that's not an issue for me since I have a full motorcycle
licence and a few years of riding behind me. Virtually no one here will buy the 125
because you need the same licence for both and the price difference is not that big.
I just can't make my mind up between the Downtown 300i and Xciting 500Ri..
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if you have a driving licence for car, you can drive motorcycles up to 125 cc
In America you can only drive a 50 cc scooter without getting the upgraded license.
It varies from state to state, actually. In Tennessee, up to 125cc without a motorcycle endorsement (but in all cases, must have a valid operator license -- some states waive that requirement for 50cc-and-under, hence "liquorcycles").
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Welcome back to the forum!
And thanks for that correction - I had never heard of any state that allowed a 125 without the M endorsement.
Anyone know if there any other states that allow over 50 cc without the motorcycle endorsement?
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Virtually no one here will buy the 125
because you need the same licence for both and the price difference is not that big.
Here it was the same, a few years before the laws changed.
There's another matter concerning this: The fuel cost. Here, one litter cost 1,30 Euros. My scooter spend 3,6 l/100 Km. The same of 300cc.spend more or less one litter more. I don't know the fuel price there, but I've seen 1 Gallon costed 1,7 dollars. It has 3,79 liters.
This means that here cost a litter the same than there a gallon. 3,79 times more expensive here...
Note that it is very important to save as more fuel as possible. 1 ,6 litters /mile it is a lot of fuel...., and many money.
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I've seen 1 Gallon costed 1,7 dollars
Wish that were the case.
Here regular unleaded is up to around $3 a gallon, premium unleaded us $3.20.
And prices are going up each week.
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And it is a very good point you make kiki.
The savings in fuel and especially parking makes me wonder why many more people aren't riding them.
Last time gas prices spiked up very high, a lot of people ran out and bought scooters and motorcyles for just that reason.
Of course, once prices went back down, a lot of people then sold them and got back in the car.
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Sure. Here, some Mayors are trying the people moves by motorcycle. That's the reason why they leave us to park at the sidewalks with no paying for that, also, you can go by the bus-taxi lane. I believe that this is the reason why here we buy this kind of motorcycles.
I go sometimes by car, sometimes scooting, depending on the wheather (if it rains or if it is been windy, I don't take my scooter).
So, depending on the distance. If I have to make more than 30 or 40 kilometers, I go by car. The only exception it is if I go like walking, to take pictures, slowly, etc...
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You are lucky to find gas as low as $3.05 USD for the least expensive unleaded. The premium is always at least $3.20; and as much as $3.60 per gallon.
... and I still want a Downtown 300i. It is likely to happen this spring.
FYI... I am riding this winter. Not today though; but I don't know why not... it is nice today.
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Gas here is 1.07 a ltr. I only use my truck in winter but my people S 125 is small for ride to work. Waiting for the 300i to get here.
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I remember that 10-15 years ago, gasoline used to be 4 TIMES less expensive in USA than in EU.
Now it is maybe 50 % less.
You guys still have a long way to go to reach us. European governments use taxation money to finance public needs so 50-75 % of the gasoline pice are taxes and excises.
However, the social support of European states is typically much stronger than in USA (free education&health services...).
No such thing as a free lunch. (Nordic countries that are among the most developed in the world with highest living standard also have the highest taxation and fuel prices).
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In Virginia no license is required if its (scooter or moped) no larger that 50cc, is DOT approved, will not exceed 35mph, and you have a helmet. No insurance of any kind is required. No tag/plate of any kind is required. I think the minimum age is 15 years old but that Im not sure about.
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In Virginia no license is required if its (scooter or moped) no larger that 50cc, is DOT approved, will not exceed 35mph, and you have a helmet. No insurance of any kind is required. No tag/plate of any kind is required. I think the minimum age is 15 years old but that Im not sure about.
That would depend on where you live in the Commonwealth of Virgina. Counties and independent cities also have the power to make their own regulations and some of those do require license plates, state that it must be 49cc or less to not need insurance, the rider must wear goggles/eye protection if the helmet is not a full face helmet, etc.
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And welcome to the forum, sc00ter! :)
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I have had a 125 or larger for so long that tags, insurance, etc. are second nature. The only place that I ever got stopped was in Washington DC on a pedal having Tomas. Come to find out that I did not get stopped because of the lack of tags and such but because a moped just got stolen in the same area and he was just making sure the one I was on was not the stolen one. I did hear a rumor that the state of VA is thinking about having them tagged with a special "moped tag" and require operators to have a "moped license"-mainly to help on theft recovery and to have grounds to bust the DUI crowd. Stupid side note: I remember (yes, Im old) when mopeds didnt require helmets! When I got my first moped at the age of 14 I still wore a ill fitting glitter blue open face I found at a yard sale for $1. My friends joked me non-stop until one night all of us were racing our mopeds (7 total death race style) thru a neighborhood "intoxicated" and this guy named Stinky tagged a curb and busted his helmet-less head open on the ground! He recovered and the rest of my friends quickly found helmets, which became madatory law the following year. Wow Im old and was (still?) really stupid!
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I'm sorry about your friend, sc00ter.
It wouldn't surprise me if the rumor you heard had truth behind it. Virginia loves to make laws!
And...Shhhhh...we're not getting older!!
We may be getting wiser, though. ;D
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In ohio you even need a M1 license for a 50 cc which includes take driven test.
but I think cortez is asking why this forum does not have a section specific to the downtown 300/125? That way the downtowners have there own special section just like the rest of us..... hummm guess that would mean a yager section too DOH! :P
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In ohio you even need a M1 license for a 50 cc which includes take driven test.
but I think cortez is asking why this forum does not have a section specific to the downtown 300/125? That way the downtowners have there own special section just like the rest of us..... hummm guess that would mean a yager section too DOH! :P
Every model should have it's subforum, it costs nothing, just a little effort on the behalf of the moderators.
If the non-existent MyRoad 700i has its own forum and no one even saw that scooter other then in pictures.. then the best
seliing Kymco in Europe should have its own..
Theres thousands of them on Italian roads alone.
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:D
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Every model should have it's subforum, it costs nothing, just a little effort on the behalf of the moderators.
Not exactly. The more forums you have, the more load on the server. The closer we get to moving off budget hosting. That cost $.
I am still open to adding forums on request. Just email me. adminatKymcoForumdotcom
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Not exactly. The more forums you have, the more load on the server. The closer we get to moving off budget hosting. That cost $.
The Downtown traffic/threads already existed elsewhere, now they're where they're supposed
to be. Same bandwidth, costs nothing.
Thanks for adding it.. the Downtown is already the most popular Kymco in Europe.
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No problem Cortez
Bandwidth is cheap and irrelevant...it's unlimited on most budget accts.
Check number 9...
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=293441.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=293441.0)
Just so everyone knows, I'm not opposed to more boards. I just want to be sure people will use them so email me. Eventually they may have to be true sub categories you will need to drill down into. Just email me or PM me if you want another model added.
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I'm from Belgium. We only need a motor license above 125CC.
We even don't pay road tax under 125cc.
The price difference between the 300cc and the 125cc is 2000 euro.
So, I could need a sub forum :-)
Greetings
Jan
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Welcome Jan,
With so much symilariy, you're welkom to stay with us, untill there is enough traffic to warrant a split of the 125 and the 300.
Enjoy the ride. 8)
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I'm from Belgium. We only need a motor license above 125CC.
We even don't pay road tax under 125cc.
The price difference between the 300cc and the 125cc is 2000 euro.
So, I could need a sub forum :-)
Greetings
Jan
Slightly off topic but is the 125i also a new engine as the 300i is? I ask as 125's have a usual performance level and the new 300 seems to have better than usual performance.