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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: aschrauth on January 25, 2022, 01:53:28 AM
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Ok, show of hands what type of battery do you run in your scooter. Agm or lithium? Being someone who only works three miles from his home I find it difficult to maintain AGM batteries. No matter how much I maintain them the load they produce is very difficult to start my scooter (Granted I use a 12v6A battery) would it be worth it to purchace a lithium battery and get more life out of it compared to purchacing an AGM? Just curious.
This is the brand that I use
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Mighty-Max-Battery-YTX7A-BS-Battery-for-Motorcycle-Powersports-Scooter/5000177971?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-hdw-_-ggl-_-PLA_HDW_214_Auto-Batteries-_-5000177971-_-online-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwMHe_oPM9QIVdfHjBx1_BgpnEAQYASABEgLvDfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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I use a normal Yuasa YTX7A, no maintenance type, nothing special. This one is about 4 years old, no problems. The previous one lasted about 6 years(?).
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Yep, I'm on Yuasa batteries too. Though I do use a battery tender on the Triumph as that doesn't get used too frequently - especially in the winter months!
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@ashrauth, maybe this helps in your decision...
https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=31869.msg223498#msg223498
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Lithium Ion batteries are light, powerful (and expensive).
A potential problem - they die with no warning of a near discharge condition.
If you don't have a kick starter, this could be a problem.
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To add to the above... If you use a battery maintainer then you need to be sure that battery maintainer specifically states that it can support Lithium batteries. If not then the maintainer or the battery may be damaged if you attempt to use them together.
I have a Battery Tender Plus and the manual for that states specifically to use it to charge/maintain ONLY a 6 cell or 3 cell lead acid battery. That means a typical wet cell or AGM battery for motorcycles or other vehicles. So I cannot use it for Lithium batteries and would have to buy a different maintainer for one of those.
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@ashrauth, maybe this helps in your decision...
https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=31869.msg223498#msg223498
I saw this fourm
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I saw this fourm
Is there room in the battery box to drop in a sealed 8, 10 or 12 Ah battery! More Ah, the better. I have a 14 Ah in my LIKE200I, replacing the stock 8 Ah.
Yuasa charts show dimensions available.
Stig
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AGM, mostly YUASA bought dry so nice and fresh when I install 'em.
Kept on a tender for the most part. Decent life, & no worries about sub 40F temps.
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AGM forever. Cheaper than lithium even if you have to replace it every few years.
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I use cheap OEM batteries/add no electronic junk/ride a lot---do not use battery tender...at first sign of trouble get new battery, My Kawasaki Concours (bought new as spare) went 56,000 miles on original battery. Modern bikes with fuel injection and no kick starter/scooters (modern) cannot be bump started,too----so fresh batteries a necessity.
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Yuasa AGM
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I guess I didn't mention what battery I use...
I've always used an AGM battery designed for my bike. I might go a bit higher on Ah and/or CCA if it fits but otherwise the same type of battery the bike came with... AGM.
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I have a great deal of experience with lithium batteries from my radio control hobby. Yes they are great, but not designed for scooters, atvs etc. If you live in a warm climate year roundvthen thats better, but lipo batteries do not do well in cold weather!! And yes special charging equipment is a must!! If the wrong charger is used they will ignite and can explode!! They burn white hot and can burn thru most anything. Can be a bomb in case of an accident! No trying to scare everybody away, but special care is needed for lipos, a mistake can be costly. AGM are the safest way to go for road vehicles, less maintence and more forgiving if a mistake is made..Lipos are also expensive, need special chargers, need special care, and give poor performance in cold weather.
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I was having the typical power drain issues with my new AK550 so i tried a lithium and im EXTREMELY impressed so far. Cant say anything negative about it.
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I was having the typical power drain issues with my new AK550 so i tried a lithium and im EXTREMELY impressed so far. Cant say anything about it.
Under proper circumstances they are great, just follow instructions to the letter ! They are safe if properly handled, but unforgiving if you make a mistake. In a scooter that is normally not used in cold weather should be good. Just dont use a standard battery charger....follow instructions!!
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Yesterday I installed a 12v, 14 amp battery in my 500. It has 240 CCA. I always go with AGM in my bikes. I have no idea how old the previous lead acid battery was, but it had 12 amps, 220 CCA.
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Yesterday I installed a 12v, 14 amp battery in my 500. It has 240 CCA. I always go with AGM in my bikes. I have no idea how old the previous lead acid battery was, but it had 12 amps, 220 CCA.
What brand/model battery did you use?
When I looked today in the electrical diagrams for my AK 550 the info there showed a 14 Ah battery yet the battery that all AK 550 scoots that I know about come from the factory with a 11.8 Ah battery at best... Kymco branded Yuasa TTZ14S.
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Yesterday I installed a 12v, 14 amp battery in my 500. It has 240 CCA. I always go with AGM in my bikes. I have no idea how old the previous lead acid battery was, but it had 12 amps, 220 CCA.
I too am curious, Only batteries that I can find on Amazon are 12v6A with less than 100CCA. Unfortunatly for me batteries that I install dont last more than three months because of all of the short trips that I take, Eventually the load that occors when I start my scooter ends up wearing them out even though the charging system works perfectly. Weather here in Missouri doesnt help either.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/154082753955
Biggest thing I could find that would physically fit.
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Yeah, just a matter of measuring the stock battery, and the battery box to see if a larger battery will fit with minimal alterations.
I found that if I cut 5mm off of my battery box hold-down posts on the lid...I could fit a 14Ah Yuasa where my LIKE200I's 8Ah battery had sat.
Stig
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Is there room in the battery box to drop in a sealed 8, 10 or 12 Ah battery! More Ah, the better. I have a 14 Ah in my LIKE200I, replacing the stock 8 Ah.
Yuasa charts show dimensions available.
Stig
Good question! Some models have a battery box with little room to spare. Like carpenters always say,"Measure twice, cut once"!
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I was having the typical power drain issues with my new AK550 so i tried a lithium and im EXTREMELY impressed so far. Cant say anything negative about it.
Yes they are great as long as your carefull. Do not jump a regular battery to your lipo and make sure you have a proper charger. I have used them for many years in my radio control hobby and they are awesome....just be carefull and dont make a mistake !!
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Ok, show of hands what type of battery do you run in your scooter. Agm or lithium? Being someone who only works three miles from his home I find it difficult to maintain AGM batteries. No matter how much I maintain them the load they produce is very difficult to start my scooter (Granted I use a 12v6A battery) would it be worth it to purchace a lithium battery and get more life out of it compared to purchacing an AGM? Just curious.
This is the brand that I use
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Mighty-Max-Battery-YTX7A-BS-Battery-for-Motorcycle-Powersports-Scooter/5000177971?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-hdw-_-ggl-_-PLA_HDW_214_Auto-Batteries-_-5000177971-_-online-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwMHe_oPM9QIVdfHjBx1_BgpnEAQYASABEgLvDfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
REALLY impressed with this bad boy...looks like its on sale too...$35 off what i paid. That pisses me off for some reason :D
https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-NLP14-Powersport-Motorcycles-Snowmobiles/dp/B091P9QXX7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2RMBYTOS8ETK0&keywords=lithium+motorcycle+battery&qid=1646343820&sprefix=lithium+moto%2Caps%2C374&sr=8-1