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Title: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on September 20, 2021, 11:52:47 AM
Last autumn a slippery tram rail did its job and I falled, scooter damaged a bit and no person damage as xray showed.
 Yesterday a van hit me when leaving gas station, and I was crossing zebra crossing in front of stations parking lot. Van stopped, but then suddenly came on me and I falled down.
Three months one day and 3800 km with new used Like50 very well kept, now down first time. f***ing hell indeed. Scrathes right side, passenger food step broken also, something from front makes noice when driving pit.
Called police, one guy saw the crash luckily, police, I and the witness thinks its vans fault, so its from his injurance. I want the helmet also.
Came just home from doctor/xray, everything is good, small aches here and there will past.
Just want the scooter back to shape that it was, lets see what happens, back to that almost perfect OEM shape.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Iahawk on September 20, 2021, 12:37:14 PM
sorry to hear about the accident but glad you are ok! I hope you get your scooter fixed up as good as new.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Kansas kymco on September 20, 2021, 01:04:31 PM
That sucks Like 50,  greatfull you were not seriously hurt.   You definitely have to be a defensive rider.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: CROSSBOLT on September 20, 2021, 09:50:31 PM
So sorry to hear this. Keep posting progress, please!
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 20, 2021, 11:34:17 PM
Heck there fellow LIKE rider!
Sorry to read that you both took a hit - just glad you are mostly OK....maybe more aching tomorrow?
They come at us from all sides sometimes.
Please post what happens to you and your pretty red LIKE!
Take care,
Stig
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Kansas kymco on September 21, 2021, 02:54:23 AM
Hopefully the insurance company buys you a new Like  50 and helmet.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Neil955i on September 21, 2021, 10:55:56 AM
Whoa!  Another tumble, but so glad to read you're (mostly) OK.  I hope the van's insurers are quick to settle and to your full satisfaction regarding both the Like and your helmet.  As KK says, we have to ride defensively with the mindset that those B@st@rds are all out to get us!  Hope you're soon mended.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on September 22, 2021, 06:41:46 AM
Thanks guys.
What we have good is, scooter is driveable, my aches goes away in few days, doctor/xray did their job with lady fortuna more than you can ask. Did also note about accident to my own injurance company in time, next day, just to let them know. I have police report and witness I trust.
What we have in prodress is, waiting for van drivers act, It can be anything, as we all know about life, but possibility to smooth case between injurance companies business as usual. I think I wait a week for his responce before I act myself more. Also in progress is picking those Nurnberg bratwurst I was on my way, that is holy matter and needs to be fixed asap, maybe today in 12 celsius and sunny nice autumn day, perfect for slow scootering nearby.
Stay visible, mind the fellow mumblers in traffic, cheers.
 
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Kansas kymco on September 22, 2021, 09:51:42 AM
Thanks guys.
What we have good is, scooter is driveable, my aches goes away in few days, doctor/xray did their job with lady fortuna more than you can ask. Did also note about accident to my own injurance company in time, next day, just to let them know. I have police report and witness I trust.
What we have in prodress is, waiting for van drivers act, It can be anything, as we all know about life, but possibility to smooth case between injurance companies business as usual. I think I wait a week for his responce before I act myself more. Also in progress is picking those Nurnberg bratwurst I was on my way, that is holy matter and needs to be fixed asap, maybe today in 12 celsius and sunny nice autumn day, perfect for slow scootering nearby.
Stay visible, mind the fellow mumblers in traffic, cheers.
I don't know about Finland's Insurance companies but my insurance company will deal with the other drivers insurance if I can't get a satisfactory response.

A lot of times a insurance company will total a vehicle to avoid future liability.  If this happens you can usually buy it back from them for little money.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: aschrauth on September 23, 2021, 03:10:38 AM
Glad you're okay. Parts can be replaced on bikes human lives cannot. One thing I do to increase my safety and to be seen on the road is where neon vest as well as a Red bicycle strobe on my helmet. I have almost been hit several times, unfortunately nowadays people are just too distracted or just don't care about a scooter drivers always make yourself known on the road and drive defensively.

This is the helmet strobe that I recently purchased it has three modes steady flashing and left and right flashing it really helps to alert other drivers that are distracted.

VERSATTA LED Motorcycle Helmet Light, Bike Bicycle Rear Red Safety Light, Helmet Light, Warning Tail Lights, Helmet Light for Night Riding with USB Chargeable Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092RJV1NG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_fabc_2YTXRJYSP0B2YYX1SX7C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1


In addition to the strobe light you might want to consider getting yourself a neon vest they're pretty cheap and can make you be seen even more.

JKSafety 9 Pockets Class 2 High Visibility Zipper Front Safety Vest With Reflective Strips, Yellow Meets ANSI/ISEA Standards (Medium) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LRVX4FS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_fabc_1M27GG2SEDV6SH8Y41H7
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on September 24, 2021, 08:18:10 AM
I use this vest time to time, when it fits on top of clothing, with warm suit its too small:
 https://www.motonet.fi/fi/tuote/512009/Aikuisten-huomioliivi-vetoketjulla-koot-S-XL?
Strobe to helmet is new thing at this village, must be checked, thanks.
 Got just SMS from my injurance company, they are waiting for van driver company report etc. and police investigation report I didnt add yet to my report, so the co-operation seems to be possible when needed.
I can wait.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Kansas kymco on September 24, 2021, 02:48:43 PM
I use this vest time to time, when it fits on top of clothing, with warm suit its too small:
 https://www.motonet.fi/fi/tuote/512009/Aikuisten-huomioliivi-vetoketjulla-koot-S-XL?
Strobe to helmet is new thing at this village, must be checked, thanks.
 Got just SMS from my injurance company, they are waiting for van driver company report etc. and police investigation report I didnt add yet to my report, so the co-operation seems to be possible when needed.
I can wait.
Glad to hear they are making progress although slowly.  I hope it's a satisfactory outcome.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: aschrauth on September 24, 2021, 03:42:26 PM
I use this vest time to time, when it fits on top of clothing, with warm suit its too small:
 https://www.motonet.fi/fi/tuote/512009/Aikuisten-huomioliivi-vetoketjulla-koot-S-XL?
Strobe to helmet is new thing at this village, must be checked, thanks.
 Got just SMS from my injurance company, they are waiting for van driver company report etc. and police investigation report I didnt add yet to my report, so the co-operation seems to be possible when needed.
I can wait.

Glad to see they are working on it. Insurance companies are some of the slowest people on planet earth to deal with. Keep us informed.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on October 03, 2021, 08:55:37 AM
Got a SMS today from my insurance company, shortly find a workshop, bill to be paid for vandriver insurance.
Two weeks now from crasch, fast enough for me. They pay also for days that scooter is not in use when fixing, I didnt know that and dont yet know how much that will be.
 Got some possibilities for repairation, need to simply go and ask next week. In this capital area sure will find one.
Gotta ask for the helmet too.
Fellows, safe riding everyone on this beautiful autumn time, cheers.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Kansas kymco on October 03, 2021, 12:47:45 PM
Got a SMS today from my insurance company, shortly find a workshop, bill to be paid for vandriver insurance.
Two weeks now from crasch, fast enough for me. They pay also for days that scooter is not in use when fixing, I didnt know that and dont yet know how much that will be.
 Got some possibilities for repairation, need to simply go and ask next week. In this capital area sure will find one.
Gotta ask for the helmet too.
Fellows, safe riding everyone on this beautiful autumn time, cheers.
Glad to hear it's going to be taken care of.  It did surprise me they didn't total the scooter.  Where I live they total the scooter/motorcycle for minor damage and usually you have a chance to buy it but it back for very little money.  The insurance companies are afraid of the liability of a damaged machine .
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on October 14, 2021, 02:07:36 PM
Got some time today and I drove to garage, that they recommend on fb finnish scooter side, https://www.bikeworld.fi/myymalat-aukioloajat/bike-world-vantaa
 They dont do Kymcos at all, but recommended moposport.fi near there, as a Kymco dealer. So I went there.
Guy at the service desk keeps repeating about problems getting parts, covid19 and so on...told me to go to tuusmotor.fi, a Kymco dealer from 75 minutes from my home, and if they dont do then come back here and start the progress. I did not start arguing at the place, because this guy was a zero, or a bit below.
Mailed to Tuusmotor, see if they will reply, maybe next week. Also put a message to injurance company what is happening and how to get a helmet.
No rush and nice autumn day for a ride with a meet with a clown. Leafs all around the streets so lets be careful out there (Michael Conrads voice).
 EDIT 19.10. Mailed to skootterihuolto.com and got quick respond. Yesterday went there, progress started and should get estimation about the cost in this week as he said. Good enough. Others hasnt bother to reply anything.
EDIT 25.10. The promised email has not yet arrived, will wait for couple more extra days before contact by phone. Tuusmotor replied my email in a week, telling it has been lost among other messages, is the situation still up. Didnt reply.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: rjs987 on October 14, 2021, 03:09:06 PM
Otsikko kertoo jotain onnettomuudesta. Kerro toki. Vai olenko missannut sen toisessa viestissä?

Anna anteeksi tietämättömyyteni. Käyttäen Google kääntäjää.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on October 14, 2021, 03:24:51 PM
Otsikko kertoo jotain onnettomuudesta. Kerro toki. Vai olenko missannut sen toisessa viestissä?

Anna anteeksi tietämättömyyteni. Käyttäen Google kääntäjää.

No prob. Check the first side here: https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=31676.0
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: rjs987 on October 14, 2021, 06:33:10 PM
Unohdan katsoa foorumin sivun yläreunasta, että siellä on useampi kuin yksi sivu!
Kiitos.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on October 27, 2021, 04:29:22 PM
Status update:
Estimation made last week, send to injurance company, not for me asked five times now he says check the spambox of your mail. Dunno why.
Helmet: they asked mark, model, year and price few days ago, told them now waiting reply also for that. Seems, it takes time to communicate via emails only. Will not use phone to mess things from written.
So, waiting now for injurance company reply, something correct can happen next week maybe, or not. Five weeks from the crash now.
It might be spring when this is done, I dont mind anymore at this age.

EDIT 28.10. Copy from the estimation arrived finally via email by its maker. Parts 900 plus job 600 makes it 1500 in euros currency. Maybe I will negociate some money, take them and run. But how much is enough, lets see. Definetly not more than the resell price, that is less than 1 t €.
 Things are moving forward, good.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: jermwars on October 27, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
Last autumn a slippery tram rail did its job and I falled, scooter damaged a bit and no person damage as xray showed.
 Yesterday a van hit me when leaving gas station, and I was crossing zebra crossing in front of stations parking lot. Van stopped, but then suddenly came on me and I falled down.
Three months one day and 3800 km with new used Like50 very well kept, now down first time. f***ing hell indeed. Scrathes right side, passenger food step broken also, something from front makes noice when driving pit.
Called police, one guy saw the crash luckily, police, I and the witness thinks its vans fault, so its from his injurance. I want the helmet also.
Came just home from doctor/xray, everything is good, small aches here and there will past.
Just want the scooter back to shape that it was, lets see what happens, back to that almost perfect OEM shape.

Thats a BUMMER, friend! :( Glad you arent badly hurt though...SURELY they will put your bike into perfect order again and soon. You might want to "make sure" you dont have any soft tissue damage though...those types of injuries are often hard to detect initially and can wind up being huge stacks of cash in the long run :D

Good luck
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on November 12, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Update now. After several ask for replying messages for injurance company, I got a message today. Halleluja.
1. The helmet. They pay me 200 € for that. Good enough. Money will arrive in few days to bank account.
2. Scooter. They have not received the estimation about fixing price from skootterihuolto.com, who tells its send around 26.10. via email. I just emailed again the ask to send it, I asked nicely.
3. I make plan B. I will go, if needed, to another garage to make the estimation. Same sh** in different package?
 Summarum: things are moving slowly from my point of view, and I have time, scooter is driveable as said earlier.
Wishing good weekend for fellow forum members.
EDIT 14.11.2021: Need to find new garage to start thing from beginning. Nearby, theres another seller with service, moposport.fi. I will contact them, if they can do the job instead of talking bs. Winter is coming, so it can be that only possibility to drive the scooter there and back is next spring, I just asked for the injurance company what they think about that.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on December 14, 2021, 07:53:15 PM
This case is finally, after almost three months, coming to the end. They will give me money enough, a bit more than I paid, end I will also keep the scooter, so the deal is fair for me finacially.
Scotter is driveable, as mentioned, and will keep on going in use, lets see the fixing when spring comes.
I did not had to run for another garage for estimation, we used the base from the first and only nonsense garage as I have told, and they paid for the estimation 150 € which is totally bullsh**, but not my business though.
So, tomorrow will be + 3 c warm, the ground is not freezing, so I will do test warming drive an hour, just to keep moving and load the battery by driving.
Be safe, happy pre christmas time for all the fellow scooterist. Cheers.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: CROSSBOLT on December 14, 2021, 09:38:00 PM
This case is finally, after almost three months, coming to the end. They will give me money enough, a bit more than I paid, end I will also keep the scooter, so the deal is fair for me finacially.
Scotter is driveable, as mentioned, and will keep on going in use, lets see the fixing when spring comes.
I did not had to run for another garage for estimation, we used the base from the first and only nonsense garage as I have told, and they paid for the estimation 150 € which is totally bullsh**, but not my business though.
So, tomorrow will be + 3 c warm, the ground is not freezing, so I will do test warming drive an hour, just to keep moving and load the battery by driving.
Be safe, happy pre christmas time for all the fellow scooterist. Cheers.

Wow! What a struggle! Good to hear you and the scoot still moving!

Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Neil955i on December 15, 2021, 04:48:58 PM
Good news.  You've shown great perseverance!
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on January 22, 2022, 02:20:24 PM
Today a senior gentleman from countryside almost near by, came and bought the scooter, just as we talked on phone when he tried to lower the price without success more than 5 % that I see as normal way when cash. Good deal for both of us, and simple and fast.
I still own a helmet, other went with the buyer with low decent price, so I think I will check web regularly, if I can find something used from senior, NOT teen, owner. Could be Agility 50, Like 50 4stroke etc. with service history.
I am bit sad, because now moving only by car, or bus/tube, when you can not sense the fresh air.
The season is offline now during winter for most of us, so be safe and eat your greens while waiting the warmness to come.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Kansas kymco on January 22, 2022, 03:53:45 PM
During winter can be a buying opportunity to get the best price.
Title: Re: slight accident also this autumn
Post by: Like50 on January 22, 2022, 05:18:32 PM
During winter can be a buying opportunity to get the best price.
I agree this. Now, when its easy to check the market via internet, I have followed few years year round, for example used moped scooters. IMO, during winter, due to very small market in southern Finland, people do not tell scooters for sale, "because nobody buys them during winter" thinking. So only few buys/sells something, and you must do timing perfectly to get the pearl, -or even anything that is out for sale with sense.
So the market here is small, and there is a possibility to make good deal if timing.
I can do fast if neccessary, and, as said, I am on hold every day.
As I see it, the prices here will go up 10% or more in two months for now, used moped scooters, average.