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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: mrmike on September 16, 2021, 02:15:58 PM
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My new X-Town 300i ABS is finally on the way. I believe it has 23x18 (17.5-18gr) rollers. I see that 23x18 16gr rollers are available, but not sliders. I put lighter sliders in my 2012 GTI300 when I had it with great results. Will the 16gr rollers show enough difference to make the switch, or should I wait to see if 23x18 sliders are available in 16gr in the future?
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I'll be interested to read the responses to this Mike as I too own an X-Town 300i - as yet unmodified if you don't count the tyres!
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mrmike - are 17 gram sliders available in the size you need?
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I just got a reply from Scooterworks. Dr Pulley does make a 23x18 16gram slider. Unfortunately they are currently out of stock. They also make 23x18 in 12,14,18,20,22,and 24 gram sizes.
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@mrmike, if delivery of your 16 grams is somewhen, just take the next higher (e.g.18gr) available weight in 23x18 mm and drill out accordingly.
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I just got a reply from Scooterworks. Dr Pulley does make a 23x18 16gram slider. Unfortunately they are currently out of stock. They also make 23x18 in 12,14,18,20,22,and 24 gram sizes.
They also sell them in 17g.
This is where I buy my Dr. P. stuff.
https://www.buggypartsnw.com/index.php/dr-pulley-slider-weight-23x18-for-250cc.html
Stig
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@mrmike, if delivery of your 16 grams is somewhen, just take the next higher (e.g.18gr) available weight in 23x18 mm and drill out accordingly.
Too late Rufus. I was able to order 23x18 16gram sliders from Dr pulley. Sliders cost $29.00, but the shipping is another $19.00. I never thought of drilling out the factory rollers, but it might be fun to experiment with down the road. I don't want to go too far and kill all my top end. The stock rollers are 17.5-18gr, so I think 16gr should be the lightest I can go. I put 14gr sliders in my GTI300, and they were just right. Better acceleration, and still decent top end.
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Too late Rufus. I was able to order 23x18 16gram sliders from Dr pulley. Sliders cost $29.00, but the shipping is another $19.00. I never thought of drilling out the factory rollers, but it might be fun to experiment with down the road. I don't want to go too far and kill all my top end. The stock rollers are 17.5-18gr, so I think 16gr should be the lightest I can go. I put 14gr sliders in my GTI300, and they were just right. Better acceleration, and still decent top end.
Just got my 23x18 16gram sliders. I'll install them along with a iridium spark plug, and brighter LED headlights over the winter. It will probably take that long to get the tupperware apart for the headlights and spark plug.
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It will probably take that long to get the tupperware apart for the headlights and spark plug.
that's funny! ...but the reality is the first time is the worst...once you figure out how it's all put together it gets much easier.
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that's funny! ...but the reality is the first time is the worst...once you figure out how it's all put together it gets much easier.
But, if you're past a certain age all you will remember next time is that you did it.
Not how.
Stig
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@Stig 👍😂
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Based on recent 13,000 miles with purchased new Xtown 300i---nice scooter, mine reliable---just ride it 10,000 miles before you monkey. Stock drive line just fine---performance of the bike is...it is a stretched 250---goes just fine as scooters go. With over 400,000 miles with 11 rubber band drive maxi-scooters---only ate one belt underway---Helix...and their belts could be changed without taking front pulley off!Always carry spare drivebelt as dealers almost always will not have them in stock. OEM replacement work well.
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@lahawk, how right you are!
Few month ago when I got my "abused" Grand Dink", it took me a hour to get the front part cleared to check on relais, etc. Now I can disassamble it in appr. five minutes, knowing where to pull and where to tweak.
Changed running lights against LED, much brighter and less consumption.
@mrmike, just keep on tinkering. If we would not try to improve our rides and find out the best middle for us, we would still be in automotive cave age.
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@mrmike, just keep on tinkering. If we would not try to improve our rides and find out the best middle for us, we would still be in automotive cave age.
Or, or.....as my wife likes to say when explaining certain things to my daughter, "It's a guy thing."
and I'm not entirely certain that this is meant as a compliment....
Stig
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But, if you're past a certain age all you will remember next time is that you did it.
Not how.
Stig
This guy gets it! ;D
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@Stig, since our stem brain didn't change that much since a couple of million years, yes, it's a guys thing as mentioned by a knowing person.😊
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@Stig, since our stem brain didn't change that much since a couple of million years, yes, it's a guys thing as mentioned by a knowing person.😊
I would truly love to own a scooter entirely designed and engineered by women.
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@lahawk, how right you are!
Few month ago when I got my "abused" Grand Dink", it took me a hour to get the front part cleared to check on relais, etc. Now I can disassamble it in appr. five minutes, knowing where to pull and where to tweak.
Changed running lights against LED, much brighter and less consumption.
@mrmike, just keep on tinkering. If we would not try to improve our rides and find out the best middle for us, we would still be in automotive cave age.
Rufus
Would you have a recommendation for a led bulb (H4) to replace my stock headlights with. They're so many options out there. Any suggestions?
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@Stig, would be interesting how it might look like?
I would truly love to own a scooter entirely designed and engineered by women.
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@mrmike, there are plenty of LED H4 lamps out there. And a lot of pro and contra.
I ordered and installed (pls see pics) in my LIKE 200i.
Took the red one because the scoot was red.
But now to techs:
-light is brighter than with the OEM bulb (had 55/60W)
-consumes about 30 W
-fits plug and play
-reaches further than OEM
BUT, don't know exactely your headlight setup..
- at my LIKE the light shone too much up and was not to be adjusted with regulation screws
- had to put some small washers between headlight assambly and front mounting to have the light cone where it should be.
-the whole lamp, even cooled by a fan, gets pretty warm and has to be distant from your headlight lens, because its made from plastic and will deform if touched by the lamp.
Led bulb is a little bit (1,5cm) longer than a halogen lamp.
(pls see link below)
https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=30874.msg216472#msg216472
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But now to techs:
-light is brighter than with the OEM bulb (had 55/60W)
LIKE200i OEM bulb is 35/35W
yes?
Stig
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@Stig yes, OEM is 35/35W in LIKES. Predisessor might have changed it.
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Just got my 23x18 16gram sliders. I'll install them along with a iridium spark plug, and brighter LED headlights over the winter. It will probably take that long to get the tupperware apart for the headlights and spark plug.
LED headlights are in with great results. Will probably be installing new Iridium spark plug and Dr. Pulley 16gr sliders soon. Should I buy a variator tool for installation of sliders, or will tightening with impact be adequate?
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if you want to torque the nut down with a torque wrench you'll need some type of variator holding tool. If not, your impact wrench should make easy work of it.