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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on July 25, 2021, 08:02:17 PM
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The tag on my Liberty 150i
155cc's, 16"/14" wheels, 52.75" wheelbase, 255lbs weight.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGdMsB3z/P1170047-3.jpg)
Carry capacity is 428'bs.....on a mono-shock and rear drum brake. (!)
I do not think I will ever test that figure!
I think my LIKE200i's is @320lbs.
Stig
*unboxed and bought the scooter in 07/17.
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Honest answer? Haven't a clue! Nothing about this in my handbook or on t'internet. Must check the VIN plate...
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I second Neil's statement..haven't a clue! I've actually never even looked it up for my bikes. Since I'm around 155 lbs and I only ride solo it's never been on my mind, before..
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Here is for 2013 Downtown 300i:
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Karl, what do you suppose that 300 weighs? 400lbs..500 lbs?
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Karl, what do you suppose that 300 weighs? 400lbs..500 lbs?
My guess, 430lbs.
What can I win?!
Stig
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My guess, 430lbs.
What can I win?!
Stig
768 pounds max gross. I think some of Kymco's numbers span 398 to 405 lbs. So I am guessing 400 bone dry/empty. Gas gonna be about 20 pounds so 430 lbs not unreasonable. That leaves 338 useful of which 240 is ME! Therefore, 98 pounds to play with gear, tools, girls, water, etc.
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366 pounds for my 2021 Honda ADV 150. So, between my wife and I, that leave roughly 35 pounds for additional cargo.
Just about right, I'd say, though only about 5 percent of my riding is two up. So, plenty of weight to spare almost all the time.
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Therefore, 98 pounds to play with gear, tools, girls, water, etc.
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It Depends on how many in your family. Pics in 2010 when my kids were younger.
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Really love that. Close to good italian style of riding.
Only we have additionally our beach gear on it.👍👍👍
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It Depends on how many in your family. Pics in 2010 when my kids were younger.
Wouldn't look out of place anywhere in Asia! Now wait for your picture to appear in any number of those chain emails showing overloaded scooters!! ;)
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Honest answer? Haven't a clue! Nothing about this in my handbook or on t'internet. Must check the VIN plate...
Finally got off my backside and checked. 360kgs maximum load.
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Finally got off my backside and checked. 360kgs maximum load.
That's just shy of 800 lbs...Max load.
Subtract wet wt of scooter - you get what carrying capacity?
Stig
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Dry weight 186 kgs so wet c200 kgs? Makes load capacity c160 kgs? Should just about cover me and the wife as long as there’s no luggage and we’re naked! 😂🤣
Seriously, when I do ride it two up, then I notice the reduced clearance in bends and the reduced braking effectiveness to go with the expected loss in acceleration, but you ride accordingly. Looking at videos of overloaded scoots in Asia, I don’t lose any sleep over it.
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service manual shows Helix with a 350 lb carrying capacity. S200 - I still don't know, can't seem to find the info.
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Like 50 cc weights 106 kg dry, and carries 150 kg max. load. Tomorrow driver and packages total 120 kg, trip is 145 km in four hours to visit old home town and propably few friends. Travel speed is 50 kmh, stop every full hour drive for short walk. Enough capasity in every possible way :)
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Dry weight 186 kgs so wet c200 kgs? Makes load capacity c160 kgs? Should just about cover me and the wife as long as there’s no luggage and we’re naked! 😂🤣
As Karl says, "No photos...it didn't happen!"
Stig
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It certainly didn’t (and won’t) happen Stig! I’ve no wish to scare the horses.
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Like 50 cc weights 106 kg dry, and carries 150 kg max. load. Tomorrow driver and packages total 120 kg, trip is 145 km in four hours to visit old home town and propably few friends. Travel speed is 50 kmh, stop every full hour drive for short walk. Enough capasity in every possible way :)
Just curious...how expensive is gasoline in Finland?
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In Helsinki last wednesday 98 octane was 1.909 € / Liter, In Kotka yesterday 1.769 € / Liter. Price includes taxes more than 80 %. This has been common in Finland always. Gas, booze and cigarettes very expensive because of taxes. Ok for me. Like 4t used 2.2 l / 100 km on this 450 km trip wed-fri, mostly loaded 120 kg on.
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In Helsinki last wednesday 98 octane was 1.909 €, In Kotka yesterday 1.769 €. Price includes taxes more than 80 %. This has been common in Finland always. Gas, booze and cigarettes very expensive because of taxes. Ok for me. Like 4t used 2.2 l / 100 km on this 450 km trip wed-fri, mostly loaded 120 kg on.
1.909€ per what volume?
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1.909€ per what volume?
That'll be per litre Karl. Same charging basis as here in the UK where I'm currently paying GB£1.26 per litre. (or £5.73 per UK Gallon)
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That'll be per litre Karl. Same charging basis as here in the UK where I'm currently paying GB£1.26 per litre. (or £5.73 per UK Gallon)
Watch this........ :)
8 1/3 of your gallons equals 10 of our gallons?
So....your gallons are bigger than ours!?!
I love maths.... :)
The M a j o r
but you need to get that liters per U.K.Gallon thing cleaned up....'round up or something....
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Watch this........ :)
8 1/3 of your gallons equals 10 of our gallons?
So....your gallons are bigger than ours!?!
I love maths.... :)
The M a j o r
but you need to get that liters per U.K.Gallon thing cleaned up....'round up or something....
I can remember when Canada sold gas by the Imperial gallon instead of liters.
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Like 50 cc weights 106 kg dry, and carries 150 kg max. load. Tomorrow driver and packages total 120 kg, trip is 145 km in four hours to visit old home town and propably few friends. Travel speed is 50 kmh, stop every full hour drive for short walk. Enough capasity in every possible way :)
I'm impressed, 91 mile trip on a 50cc scooter so basically you averaged 22.5 mph with stops.
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I'm impressed, 91 mile trip on a 50cc scooter so basically you averaged 22.5 mph with stops.
A bit sitting. First one and half hours goes well, that means no pain in the ass. Ten minute stop walking helps for next hour drive, lets say well enough not perfect. The last 45 km sometimes good, the feeling you are done with the trip soon, sometimes small only few minutes break to stand and walk are needed.
The body of Like 50 cc is same than 125 cc, I mean it is not the smallest moped, I think it helps. It runs around 50 kmh, rarely less when engine is heating a bit but runs and idles.
What also counts is motor oil, the last time I changed oil just before long run, and these days never over 1 000 km with same oil.
Summarum: 50 cc carries 120 kg good, if you are able to sit and try :)
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A bit sitting. First one and half hours goes well, that means no pain in the ass. Ten minute stop walking helps for next hour drive, lets say well enough not perfect. The last 45 km sometimes good, the feeling you are done with the trip soon, sometimes small only few minutes break to stand and walk are needed.
The body of Like 50 cc is same than 125 cc, I mean it is not the smallest moped, I think it helps. It runs around 50 kmh, rarely less when engine is heating a bit but runs and idles.
What also counts is motor oil, the last time I changed oil just before long run, and these days never over 1 000 km with same oil.
Summarum: 50 cc carries 120 kg good, if you are able to sit and try :)
At 6'3" - I was good for at most 40 mins on the stock LIKE seat.
Often had to get off at 20 mins and walk around.
The lump in the plastic seat pan mid-way back was a torture device on the tail bone!
My first year I rebuilt the seat - coving that bump in the seat pan with proper seat foam so that I could no longer feel it.
I used a LIKE50 seat from ebay purchase in case I made a dog's breakfast of things....the original LX seat is in the closet, unmolested.
That was 8 yrs ago - haven't thought about the seat since those days.
Stig
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At 6'3" - I was good for at most 40 mins on the stock LIKE seat.
Often had to get off at 20 mins and walk around.
The lump in the plastic seat pan mid-way back was a torture device on the tail bone!
My first year I rebuilt the seat - coving that bump in the seat pan with proper seat foam so that I could no longer feel it.
I used a LIKE50 seat from ebay purchase in case I made a dog's breakfast of things....the original LX seat is in the closet, unmolested.
That was 8 yrs ago - haven't thought about the seat since those days.
Stig
Had a couple of bikes fitted with Corbin seats back in the day as these allowed genuine 500 mile days. Then I found an upholsterer in Birmingham (UK) who reworked the original seat pan for half the costs of a Corbin and the end result was just as comfortable!