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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: rliburd2002 on October 22, 2010, 06:08:00 PM

Title: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: rliburd2002 on October 22, 2010, 06:08:00 PM
Hi All,

My left indicator was not working properly as it had a loose wire. I thought nothing of it and planned to get round to fixing it at some point. Then every now and then when I put the indicator on I got a loud buzzing noise. Put it down to the loose wire.

Out the other day and there was a strange noise coming from the fan. I opened it up to make sure there was nothing in there like dirt etc. Whilst I was there I cleaned the spark with sandpaper. Took the bike out and it was sluggish and the noise came again from the fan. Then it just died!

Got it started again and it died again after 1 minute. Would not turnover at all (like when the battery is flat).
I wheeled it off the road and it started again but I had to keep revving at the junctions to keep the engine going.
So I opened the front and fixed the wire hoping it was an electrical problem. Rode it down the road and it was fine. The the load buzzing noise came again without me pressing the indicator and the noise form the fan came back and the bike completely died. Started again on the kick and then it made the load buzz and died again. Now it just clicks when I press the start and It wont kick start as the kick wont go down.

My next step is to change the spark and fully check all electrical connections? Sound right??


Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: blue on October 22, 2010, 10:09:35 PM
sorry to tell you this but it sounds like maybe your stator is gone. Sometimes they might freeze up
and start makeing noise if they are realy gone.thenyour battery well go low.which is why you indicator
is acting up.
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: wordslinger on October 22, 2010, 11:20:10 PM
..i agree with blue..

..AND YOU NEED TO FIX THAT SHORTED WIRING!!!

..My left indicator was not working properly as it had a loose wire. I thought nothing of it and planned to get round to fixing it at some point. Then every now and then when I put the indicator on I got a loud buzzing noise. Put it down to the loose wire.

...had you nipped that in th' bud when it happened, you might not be buying a new stator...

 :-\


...now, for sure...you need to thoroughly inspect all the wiring in that circuit...

..you got a copy of the a50 service manual???

 ???
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: blue on October 22, 2010, 11:34:24 PM
thanks word. try following the wires from behind your steering column all the way down sometimes the movement of the steering going back and forth well wear down the wireing.
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: rliburd2002 on October 23, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
I've got the manual but I dont have a tester. May have to take it to the shop but I think you guys are spot on. Thanks  :(
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: rliburd2002 on October 23, 2010, 09:35:41 AM
BTW Would it not be the regulator/rectifier that has gone and not the stator? I'm hoping as it is cheaper but is there an easy way to check?
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: wordslinger on October 23, 2010, 11:25:29 AM
Would it not be the regulator/rectifier that has gone and not the stator?

..possibly, but you say the "noise" was from the fan area....
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: rliburd2002 on October 23, 2010, 12:58:48 PM
Yeah it was like this:

1. the (now and again)buzzing was coming from the rectifier.
2. Started to notice a ticking like noise from the fan
3. With a load buzz from the rectifier the bike died.
4. Got it started and it rode again fine.
5. Ticking noise came back from the fan
6. With a load buzz from the rectifier the bike died again and now the kick wont go down.

I wish I had checked that wire earlier  >:( I'm gonna take it to the shop. £20 to get it there £40 an hour labour.
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: wordslinger on October 23, 2010, 10:21:09 PM
and now the kick wont go down.



..??wtf!!??..
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: blue on October 23, 2010, 10:52:08 PM
and now the kick wont go down.



..??wtf!!??..
mmmmmm got me. kick start broke and sounds like its comeing from the fan.or something stuck in the fan .mmmmmmmm ya take it in. hope you are rich lapor is going to kill ya.
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: rliburd2002 on October 25, 2010, 05:08:14 PM
Guy in the shop says the engine has seized and I need a new one!
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: pedro on October 25, 2010, 05:12:53 PM
Ouch!   :o
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: Rianna on October 25, 2010, 06:21:08 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear that. I thought you were working on a wiring or stator type issue. Don't know if your under warranty or not. Might seek a second opinion. Sounds expensive.
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: oswaldters on October 25, 2010, 11:21:11 PM
While it's in there - might as well slap a kit on it!

...I know Word is singing along....
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: wordslinger on October 26, 2010, 12:10:31 AM
...damn, rl.....

..that frikin sucks...

..i reckon i don't see how the engine could be siezed...

..maybe the stator is melted and got it locked-up that way...

..maybe, but what you were describing as symptoms SHOULD NOT result in a siezed engine.......
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: rliburd2002 on October 26, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
The guy said he took it all apart (The stator and everything) He said the engine still wont move?
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: Rianna on October 26, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
rliburd2002, I really hope he meant to say 'stator motor' and just said 'motor'. It's a huge difference price wise. Good luck.
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: pedro on October 26, 2010, 05:37:36 PM
...or starter motor.   ???
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: wordslinger on October 26, 2010, 11:25:06 PM
..rl, you should cut your losses and maybe get a second opinion...

..in my opinion...
Title: Re: Help Needed!! Dead Bike!
Post by: original.wire on November 18, 2010, 12:24:30 PM
my bike cuts out when i let off the revs when stopped at lights and when i first start it up it wont go faster than 10 miles an hour until i rev it for a while it gets going but cuttin out at the lights is very frustrating can anyone help