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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: oswaldters on October 19, 2010, 10:08:27 PM
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So I've decided to change the roller weights on the scoot while the temperatures are still conducive to working outdoors without freezing a finger off. What can I say, I'm not allowed to do tuning in my living room!
I want to go with lighter weights since I do lots of stop and go driving and would like a little more oomph off the line. I seem to recall that the stock weights are 6.5 gm - but am not completely sure.
Any suggestions on how light I should go with my derestricted by otherwise stock scoot? I was thinking maybe 5.5 or 6.0.
One other question, if I have 5 gm and 6 gm roller weights, can I alternate them so I have 3 of each and get the desired 5.5 gm effect?
Or am I barking mad here?
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bark bark-------I would suggest going with 5.5 and keep the same weight all the way a round.
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Yeah, I am going unconventional here.
I only have 5 gm and 6 gm weights - hate to go buy more.
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try 5 then if that dont do it for ya try 6 im thinking 5 might be to light not sure I tryed 4.5 and that was to light.
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Somebody here just got some weights not too long ago. I'm thinking it was pedro. Not sure how much he paid for them, though, because I have no memory. lol
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Yes, you are correct - I remember that!
I also remember that Pedro put up the link to the seller so I'm checking that out now.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/variator-roller-5g-6g-7g-Dio-GY6-50cc-139QMB-Moped-/230538717351?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35ad2da8a7 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/variator-roller-5g-6g-7g-Dio-GY6-50cc-139QMB-Moped-/230538717351?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35ad2da8a7)
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I forgot about that link! :D
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Thanks Pedro!
The only issue is I think I need the 5.5 gm rollers. If we can do the mix and match thing (alternating the 5 gm and 6 gm rollers) this would work.
They're a really good price for 3 sets and includes shipping too.
Where is Word at tonight :-\
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I'd run 3x 5grams and 3x 6grams. I tired various combinations when I was dialing in my variator last weekend. Including mixing weights.
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That was my thought as well.
I've read various things about mixing variator weights, but it seems like it shouldn't be a problem as long as you alternate the 2 weights.
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Thats exactly what I did. I only put 5-6 miles on each different set of rollers before pulling it all apart and swapping in a different set. I didn't notice any downside to running mixed weight sets. I did place them inside the variator in alternating weights.
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Over time they will wear unevenly and can stress out your veriator,but works fine for tuneing.
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Thats good to know. Thanks Art. Thankfully I was able to settle on all 6 weights being 7 grams. I'll remember that in the future though. ;)
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...art is exactly right...
..don't mix roller weights for the long haul..
;)
..i ran my a50 with 4.7 gram rollers and blew the fairings off most anything i came across...
..excellent take-off, and the top speed...well...that'sa whole nuther story...ya'll have already read..
..however, in addition with the rollers i did have malossi variator, a K&N filter, modified oem exhaust and around a 1.01mm main jet..1000 torque drive spring and 1000 fly clutch springs...
..5 or 5.5 gram rollers will do you great without all the other stuff...
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Thanks all for the input!
This is good to know. I figure I'll go with the 5's and see how that goes. If I'm not happy with it, I can mix the 5's and 6's and see if that works for me. If so, then I'll go for the 5.5 gm ones.
I probably won't be able to get to it until next weekend at the earliest, but I'll let you know how it goes.
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..i think you'll like the 5's os...
..i ran 5.5s with a 1000 contra (torque drive) spring setup for over 10,000 kms and loved them...
......except for the slightly sluggish take-off...
..5 grams would have fixed that...
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Then I'll go with 5's for sure. I need the good take-off since I have so many stop signs along the way.
Gotta be able to leave some of those Viper Strykes on stop line.
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...i love it when i leave those cabin-bound travellers in the dust and they have to kick it to catch up with me...lol..
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So you don't think dropping 1.5 gm per roller is too drastic a change?
Been reading some conflicting things about how much you should change the weights - especially if the scoot is still mostly stock.
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...best way to determine what roller weights work for your setup is by investing in a roller tuning kit...
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...i have these...
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I hope you aren't riding like that guy on the label...
I did see some kits like that in my internet travels. Might have to invest in one.
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...if i put the right rollers in the ppl, it'll do that....
..might only run 40 mph top speed tho...lol..