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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on March 10, 2021, 01:18:06 AM
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Received my second dose of Moderna today. We each had appointment times and filed in, well spaced, in an orderly fashion at a site well organized by the county health department.
I have to say that - in all my experience with the government (read Army, license bureaus, etc. ) - these folks did a great job.
Now I need to read what I can do , and can't do according to the health experts.
I have read that while I may still contract covid - and can pass it to others who are not vaccinated - I will not likely die from, or experience complications so serious as to require hospitalization. Both of those were certainly in the mix for me should I have contracted covid while unvaccinated at my present age & health.
I still need to be masked to protect others. A couple of us vaccinators can now sit & play chess, I take it.
Tomorrow I will see if I can yet play the violin. (or the banjo - if my moderna goes that way)
The county hired four guys from the U.K. to put on a little celebratory do in the parking lot for us seniors.
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The sun went down and things got lively......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlxGg0QIqE
Stig
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BTW - 10 hours on, no side effects yet. Expect a sore arm tomorrow....maybe brain fever?
Have alerted my daughter - if I'm not home by noon from my scooter ride tomorrow. Use the cell towers to locate me.....I'll be getting hungry.
Stig
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both shots, good for you! I have heard from a number of people who felt pretty bad the next day. In fact they even cancelled school in a small town near here because they did a mass teacher vaccination and about 40% of them didn't feel well enough to go to work!
You're also in luck as the CDC just released new guidelines for those recently vaccinated. 2 weeks until you're fully protected and then you can hug non vaccinated relatives!
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Well done Tom! Nice to see Mick & the lads put on a bit of a do for you... Saw them on the Steel Wheels tour (1990) at Wembley Stadium.
We're on a 12 week space between jabs 1 and 2 so I don't get my second one for another few weeks yet.
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Saw them on the Steel Wheels tour (1990) at Wembley Stadium.
Hey, I saw the Stones on that same tour! Steel Wheels back in '90. Although seeing them in Wembley Stadium sounds a little cooler (to us Yanks) than seeing them where I did at the Iowa State University football stadium. I think I saw Paul McCartney that same year at the same stadium. It was a good year for concerts.
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Hey, I saw the Stones on that same tour! Steel Wheels back in '90. Although seeing them in Wembley Stadium sounds a little cooler (to us Yanks) than seeing them where I did at the Iowa State University football stadium. I think I saw Paul McCartney that same year at the same stadium. It was a good year for concerts.
How about Fleetwood Mac at Atlantic City on one very memorable trip to the US? Fantastic night.
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Got my first Moderna last Friday and have an appointment for first week in April for second. Can't wait.
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Well, Stig, I beat you to the punch, or should I say... jab. I got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine last Thursday morning, March 4. Only side effect was that I was tired, and took a nap in the afternoon. That was about it. Arm was sore for a day, but then it eased up. My wife got her first Moderna vaccine on March 3, and she had no side affects other than a sore arm for a day. I got my shots at a local Walgreen's. I somehow caught their schedule at the right time and was able to book both appointments the day before my first scheduled shot. Very smooth process. My wife had been told about a clinic that was giving shots, and she called first thing in the morning and left a message. We didn't expect to hear form them, but at 3:15 as we were returning home from a Costco run, my wife's cellphone rang. She didn't recognize the number, but I told her to answer the call. Turned out to be someone from the clinic asking my wife how quickly she could get to their office. We got there at 3:50, along with four other people they had called, and they all got their first doses, as well as appointments for their second shots. Turns out that the clinic does this if they have doses left over after their last scheduled appointment. Talk about luck!
Now, as the weather is deciding what to do - 70 today and tomorrow, 36 on Friday, 40's for several days after that, I'm starting to think about riding again. My scoot's in a friend's garage for the winter. He's in Florida and won't be back for a couple of weeks. As soon as he gets home, I'll go over and get the scoot.
Like everyone else who's gotten both doses, I'm keeping a close eye on what I can and can't do. Fauci has been pretty good about giving some guidance, and Ohio is also doing an OK job. But the CDC seems to be taking the lead on providing guidance for "life after vaccinations." We won't be traveling anytime soon, and we'll only be socializing with people who have also received both doses. But we may be more likely to go to a restaurant, but not a bar. I won't be doing any group rides. And regardless, we'll be wearing masks when we're out in public, and around people we don't know.
There are a lot of bridges to cross, or not, when we come to them.
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Like everyone else who's gotten both doses, I'm keeping a close eye on what I can and can't do. Fauci has been pretty good about giving some guidance, and Ohio is also doing an OK job. But the CDC seems to be taking the lead on providing guidance for "life after vaccinations." We won't be traveling anytime soon, and we'll only be socializing with people who have also received both doses. But we may be more likely to go to a restaurant, but not a bar. I won't be doing any group rides. And regardless, we'll be wearing masks when we're out in public, and around people we don't know.
There are a lot of bridges to cross, or not, when we come to them.
That seems like a sensible and pragmatic way to go. Good call jak51
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It will likely be at least another month or two before I can get vaccinated. I'm not quite old enough, sick enough or work in a high risk job. I'm still doing most of the things I want to do. Once I get vaccinated I plan on resuming normal life. I'll wear a mask where required but that's about it. Sure the risk from Covid won't be completely gone but then any one of us could die any day from thousands of different things. I take reasonable precautions but I refuse to stop living because "something could happen". Even if I locked myself in a sterile room I wouldn't be 100% safe. I'd probably die of boredom or depression.
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Even if I locked myself in a sterile room I wouldn't be 100% safe. I'd probably die of boredom or depression.
Amen to that. I'm tired of being a sissy about this stuff. The bikers in my neighborhood have found that we can have coffee 4' apart from each other and still survive. I'll keep you posted. We're soon going to try for 3' apart.
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I finally managed to navigate the chaotic L.A. County websites. My first appointment is on 3/30. I am a bit concerned about side effects, since my Covid case was a little rough. The pneumonia and recovery kept me off work for a while. Thankfully, I fared better than a lot of people.
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"6 Ways to Deal with Selfish People During COVID-19" is a good read.
Even after 12 months......
Stig
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The link to the article, which appeared in Psychology Today, is:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-couch/202004/6-ways-deal-selfish-people-during-covid-19
It is an interesting article, and may help explain some of the incredible rudeness and lack of empathy we're seeing today. But of course, no one who rides a Kymco is rude, selfish or thoughtless, right?
What kills me the most is some people's absolute disregard for doing something as simple as wearing a mask. We're in what we hope to be the final throes of the COVID pandemic, but people just can't get it through their thick heads that "it ain't over yet." Is not wearing a mask a symbol of machismo; does it prove one's invulnerability; does it represent one's "I ain't wearing no stinking mask" attitude? I don't know. But until the vast majority of the population is vaccinated and the experts give the "all clear," the virus is still out there. And it kills. I had to livestream the funeral of a good friend who died of COVID last week. He was 70. That's the second friend I've lost to COVID in the past six weeks.
Selfishness vs science. Who's going to win that one?
Jeff
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The link to the article, which appeared in Psychology Today, is:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-couch/202004/6-ways-deal-selfish-people-during-covid-19
It is an interesting article, and may help explain some of the incredible rudeness and lack of empathy we're seeing today. But of course, no one who rides a Kymco is rude, selfish or thoughtless, right?
What kills me the most is some people's absolute disregard for doing something as simple as wearing a mask. We're in what we hope to be the final throes of the COVID pandemic, but people just can't get it through their thick heads that "it ain't over yet." Is not wearing a mask a symbol of machismo; does it prove one's invulnerability; does it represent one's "I ain't wearing no stinking mask" attitude? I don't know. But until the vast majority of the population is vaccinated and the experts give the "all clear," the virus is still out there. And it kills. I had to livestream the funeral of a good friend who died of COVID last week. He was 70. That's the second friend I've lost to COVID in the past six weeks.
Selfishness vs science. Who's going to win that one?
Jeff
Well said Jeff. You may niggle some on here, but I for one take your point and agree with it.
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Working in the nursing Industry at A retirement home I was one of the first people to get the shot. First one was ok but the second one made me feel AWFUL, it almost felt like a freight train hit me. Had a fever of 102, Headache, chills and stomach ache.
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Did you get the Moderna vaccine?
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I had the Moderna. Both injections.
Sore arm after the first (no worse than the 2 Shingrix, for shingles) - sore arm after the 2nd.
Next day, after the 2nd, I took a nice afternoon nap after my sunrise scooter ride.
I blamed that on the Moderna - but my daughter pointed out that many guys my age take afternoon naps.....which I thought was unkind :)
IMHO - any vaccine side effects are better than taking that last gasp in ICU - without the shot.
Stig
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I agree, Stig. Get the damn vaccine, regardless of the manufacturer! I was asking about if he got the Moderna vaccine because two of my friends - one male, one female, both spiked temps and felt lousy after their second Moderna shot. I had the Pfizer vaccine, and with both doses, I had a bit of a sore arm, and felt tired. That was it.
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Very good news around here - actual sign-ups for the vaccines for ALL ages are rolling out within weeks, not months!
The governor announced that all Ohioans 16 and older may sign up for the injections starting March 29th.
That sounded almost too good to be true - but when my youngest daughter used the county website that I'd used - she got an appointment scheduled to get her vaccination from the county health dept. at 1:30pm on April 1st!!
I have 3 adults in the family who are refusing to get vaccinated. Their concerns are the often stated. Nothing new - except in differing blends.
Not wishing to be controversial here - but it is a familly fact that these 3 are famous for holding many, many conspiracy theories. ....and for years....so, being anti-vaxers is no surprise to anyone.
When we are all vaxed -- we will be asking those not - to wear masks in our presence, and we will do the same.
Stig
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@Stig
incredible how fast this goes in your state. Congrats. Here people of my age (65) are scheduled for June-July, earliest.
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When we are all vaxed -- we will be asking those not - to wear masks in our presence, and we will do the same.
Stig
You must tell how that goes down Tom!
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@Stig
incredible how fast this goes in your state. Congrats. Here people of my age (65) are scheduled for June-July, earliest.
The supply of vaccine and rate of vaccinations is speeding up country wide. I'm in the 55-65 age group and I was able to sign. I expect to get my first shot in April or May at the latest.
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Next Monday - 3/29 - Ohio goes to "all adults" (anyone 16 and above). Not sure if the state really has reached that point since we're always hearing on the news that older (70+) adults, frontline workers, healthcare workers, teachers, etc., are still having problems getting their shots.
Jeff
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Next Monday - 3/29 - Ohio goes to "all adults" (anyone 16 and above). Not sure if the state really has reached that point since we're always hearing on the news that older (70+) adults, frontline workers, healthcare workers, teachers, etc., are still having problems getting their shots.
Jeff
Many folks who actually are age-qualified to get an appointment to get vaccinated here in Ohio are dragging their feet - for whatever reason, and/or they are not adept at figuring out the appointment system.
It's no more complicated than phoning the county health department. Rides can be, and are being arranged for those who need them.
Meanwhile - vaccines are available here and more are coming - so give them to any adult who steps forward.
The quicker we can get even the flat-earth & conspiracy groups of anti-vaxers vaccinated, the quicker we can get the economy up and running again.
Stig
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Kansas just lifted the mask mandate today. Private business can still require them. I beleive we are reaching herd immunity. Will still get my shot when available.
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Per CDC and NIH guidelines, herd immunity will not be reached until at least 80% of the total population has been vaccinated. We are a long ways off from that. I have received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine, and am well past the two week immunity build-up period. However, I will still wear a mask, and do all the other recommended protocols, not so much for my safety, but to make sure I don't pass COVID to others, should I come into contact with an infected person.
Stig - up here in NE Ohio, we're still having some problems with vaccine serum distribution. People are getting appointments, but those appointments are now going into late April or May.
Jeff
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Per CDC and NIH guidelines, herd immunity will not be reached until at least 80% of the total population has been vaccinated. We are a long ways off from that. I have received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine, and am well past the two week immunity build-up period. However, I will still wear a mask, and do all the other recommended protocols, not so much for my safety, but to make sure I don't pass COVID to others, should I come into contact with an infected person.
Stig - up here in NE Ohio, we're still having some problems with vaccine serum distribution. People are getting appointments, but those appointments are now going into late April or May.
Jeff
If you listen to some leading scientist the stated they vastly underestimated the number infected and expect herd immunity this spring. A huge percentage of the population had mild or no symptoms at all so we're never included in the figures. When I had it 3 days of not being able to keep any food down followed by two weeks of extreme fatigue. I had it very early when a good friends son came back from Seattle (epicenter ) and gave it to his mom. They came over for a supper bowl party and gave it to me. I know a lot of people who showed no signs at all. And know two elderly people who passed from covid. I still were a mask and social distance for others and will be vaccinated when available, just like I get a flu shot every year.
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Per CDC and NIH guidelines, herd immunity will not be reached until at least 80% of the total population has been vaccinated. We are a long ways off from that. I have received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine, and am well past the two week immunity build-up period. However, I will still wear a mask, and do all the other recommended protocols, not so much for my safety, but to make sure I don't pass COVID to others, should I come into contact with an infected person.
Stig - up here in NE Ohio, we're still having some problems with vaccine serum distribution. People are getting appointments, but those appointments are now going into late April or May.
Jeff
Ohio legislature just voted (again) that politicians, not the state's health experts, will be deciding what is best for us.
They cite as reasons : the economic impact of restrictions; protecting that small % of stupid & selfish American's right to be stupid & selfish.
Stig
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Ohio legislature just voted (again) that politicians, not the state's health experts, will be deciding what is best for us.
Stig
This doesn't prevent you from wearing a mask and taking precautions to protect yourself. We're fortunate our governor uses the state health guidelines to make decesion. At the peak Nov 23 2020 we had a day of 7301 people infected with a weekly avg of 2876 per day. As of yesterday we dropped to 546 yesterday with a weekly avg of 207 per day. Meeting the guidelines to remove the mask mandate.
Like I said earlier this does not prevent business from requiring them or from you taking percautions to protect yourself.
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I was able to get my wife and I on the waiting list but there are a huge number of people ahead of us. No telling when we will get it but I expect it will be late April or May. At least the process here is very well organized. When It's your turn they call you and give you an appointment. Typically people show up, fill out some paperwork, get their shot and wait for 15 minutes and are out the door about 30 minutes after they arrived. No long lines or other nightmares I have read about in so many places.
Our governor is letting the mask mandate expire on 9 April but that doesn't prevent stores or local governments from doing it. To be honest I don't think it will make much difference. Here in the city I think most people will still be wearing masks in public buildings for a while. Out in the country many people have been ignoring the mask rules anyway. I'll wear mine where required or when it makes sense. If I go into a place out in the country where no one else is wearing a mask it's pretty pointless to wear one myself. I just try to maintain some distance.
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Klav, please wear your mask. ...even out in the boonies when near others. . Won't make you bullet proof - but any precaution is better than zip! especially since you've not been vaccinated yet.
My county has it all very smooth...frankly the best rodeo I've ever seen from any government agency 😊
Stig
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Finally stage 5 so now everyone qualifies for being vaccinated . Will make my appointment tomorrow.
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Just lost a childhood friend to covid. Big dude, 71yrs old and healthy as an ox, until last month.
Sent condolences to his brother - who was my brother's best friend.
We've each lost brothers recently - my brother to shingles, his to covid.
There are vaccines for both now, folks.
My very young daughter and son getting vaccinated in 2 days. She got him in a headlock - so he's going.
Stig
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My appointment is Thursday. It looks like the new surge is affecting children as well.
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We've each lost brothers recently - my brother to shingles, his to covid.
Both are viruses. Add flu to the virus mix, and the risk is huge for anyone over 70. Now here's the bonus for young people: under 50s are hardly affected by COVID at all, but over 70 is in an extremely high risk danger zone! The real winner is the over-70 who survived COVID because he's now immune for at least a year (according to CDC), even more so than those who were vaccinated. Teenagers? They don't even notice if they're infected. God-bless them!!
How do I know? Been there, done it. We who survived, we've been made stronger!
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I get my 2nd shot on Thursday...can't wait!
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Was given my second shot of the Pfizer vaccine a few weeks ago. I'm just into the high risk but around here it's still hard to get any appointments for anyone who qualifies. Even though my Dr says they cannot set up an appointment he did give me a phone number to call at the clinic to give me one and that's the only way it happened. No side effects that I can recall. Or is loss of memory one of the side effects?
Lots of misinformation still about the before and after of getting the vaccine, just like there continues to be for the virus itself. Too many politicians trying to sound important giving out their own version of information just to seem like they're important. I'd rather listen to the CDC or medical authority since this is, after all, a medical issue and not a political one.
"Oh, did you hear, there's an active shooter at the mall right now so stay away!"
"Nah, there are so many ways to die in life I think I'll go shopping anyway. Nobody is going to tell me not to go buy that new cell phone at the mall!"
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My county has vaccines waiting for customers.
Doing walk-ins....going to schools.....no waiting for appointments.
While waiting for my daughter and son to get their 2nd the other day - I was pleased to see so many youngsters going in for theirs. A few older folks....but mostly younger people.
Stig
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My county has vaccines waiting for customers.
Doing walk-ins....going to schools.....no waiting for appointments.
While waiting for my daughter and son to get their 2nd the other day - I was pleased to see so many youngsters going in for theirs. A few older folks....but mostly younger people.
Stig
With all due respect, it's the older folks who need the vaccine. For youngsters, they don't even notice one way or the other. You (and I) are the ones at risk. We're the ones who need to get back on two wheels ASAP! Not the youngsters.
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I agree that it's the older people who really need the vax...I think what Stig is saying is that the rollout has gone so well in some places that there is no waiting list or shortage...so the vax is open to everyone. That's why the younger people are now getting their shots. The challenge with many areas around here is convincing everyone who needs the shot to get it.
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Interesting reading - the groups who are not coming for the vaccinations. Interesting, too, their current and previous affiliations.
That's why I'm encouraged at the sight of so many youngsters getting vaccinated.
Stig
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Interesting reading - the groups who are not coming for the vaccinations. Interesting, too, their current and previous affiliations.
That's why I'm encouraged at the sight of so many youngsters getting vaccinated.
Stig
If I get your drift Tom, it’s interesting because here in the UK the “vaccine hesitancy” is defined more along ethnicity differentiators! The Govt & media has had a real job on to convince some ethnic groupings together vaccinated - and that despite these self same groups statistically suffering disproportionately in terms of Covid fatality rates!