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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: Cloud on October 17, 2010, 08:29:31 PM
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What tools do I need to work on my 2004 People 50?
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A basic 3/8 inch socket set, some misc open ended wrenches, some pliers, a 13/16's socket for spark plugs, various flat and philips head screwdrivers. Nothing really specific to the scooter, just your average hand tools will do most jobs.
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Make sure they are metric not SAE. from a 8MM to 19MM should just about get everything you need to tear up.
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and if you plan on takeing off your own clutch a impact wrench would be good.
but there are cheap ways of doing that.
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I'd get a harbor freight 1/2" electric impact wrench. Like $35 or $40 when on sale or with coupon. Cheap I know but you can buy a 1 or 2 year extended warranty for like $5 for 1 and $8 for 2. I have used one for over 2 years and gone through maybe 4-5. I use(beat) that thing every job I do. The warranty is worth it every time. The nice thing about cheap tools with warranty is you can abuse them.
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So it's a 1/2"? I thought I read somewhere about a 17mm nut?? My memory plays tricks on me sometimes, though.
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..the 1/2"..is the square "drive" proportions...
..there are 1/4" sq drives, 3/8...1/2..3/4sq...etc...
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Ohhhh...okay. Sorry. lol
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get a plumbing tool used on drain pipe nuts and modify it to work as the pulley holder to do cvt work. drill two holes in the ends, put two bolts through and save 45 bucks not buying the specialty tool.
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get a plumbing tool used on drain pipe nuts and modify it to work as the pulley holder to do cvt work. drill two holes in the ends, put two bolts through and save 45 bucks not buying the specialty tool.
..brother from another mother...
..improvise!!!..
peace
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get a plumbing tool used on drain pipe nuts and modify it to work as the pulley holder to do cvt work. drill two holes in the ends, put two bolts through and save 45 bucks not buying the specialty tool.
..brother from another mother...
..improvise!!!.. or you can do the same with a 2x4 drill a hole trew it bigenough for a socket to go threw
then on each side of the hole drill smaller ones and put a bolt threw and you have a red neck tool, lol
peace
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This is the basic tool set I bought from the pawn shop for $20. It was missing a couple of wrenches so the fella was nice enough to throw in a couple of his loose Craftsman wrenches to complete the set for me. They don't quite fit in the slots so I just tuck them in behind the handles of the other wrenches on the side. The sockets are 3/8" and 1/2" drive with an adapter and extension. I got this one because the wrenches go up to 19mm and the sockets go up to 21mm. The smaller sets only went up to 17mm and I needed that 19mm for the axle nut.
I bought the basic torque wrench on the left for $10.99 at Autozone. The miscellaneous stuff to the right of the tool box set is stuff I was lucky enough to find around the house and they do come in handy as well. A stronger flashlight would be nice. Next purchase will be that Impact Wrench and maybe one of those special spanner wrenches or whatever they're called to adjust the rear shock if it isn't already set on the lowest setting since I'm a shorty. :)
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Looks like you have most of what you need.
Did you order your rotor yet?
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Hi, oswaldters, I haven't ordered it yet. I decided to wait until after I go to the dentist this week to see how much money I have left over. If I have enough it will be easier to just order the pads at the same time.
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Yup, teeth over brakes is the correct order in which to do things!
Thankfully I survived the dentist visit this morning - but there was some kind of problem and they couldn't shut off the heat so the office must have been 95 degrees.
Nothing like a sauna and a teeth cleaning at the same time!
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OMG! Would you like some torture with that Torture?!!
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Yeah I felt luck to get away without being water boarded during the procedure.
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Yeah, and then go out in cold and get on the scoot...what a shock to the system! Brrr :D
I think I'm only about $4 short of ordering both so if the dentist doesn't take all my money I'll be set.
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You're definitely getting close!
And I'm impressed you got the cover off the handle bars!
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That's funny. I didn't feel impressive trying to figure it out. I felt more along the lines of dumb or stupid. The manual seemed to leave something out. I remember a pic showing the turn signal lights staying attached to the cover when you remove it, but it didn't quite work out that way for me. :D
I couldn't separate the two covers more than 1/4 inch apart until I found the other two screws. So if the manual says remove 6 screws, it might actually be 8 screws. lol
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I know who I'll be consulting when I go to do that on my scoot. I'm interested in finding out where those 2 mystery screws that have to be removed are!
I couldn't see how you could get the cover off without taking the turn signals off so we're either both missing something, or you just need to take the turn signals off and the manual didn't mention that.
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Oh yeah, and speaking of that fun manual...before I forget, oswaldters, I wanted to mention that the manual shows two different setups for the front brakes...the drum and the disc brake setup and I get a bit confused with it at times.
So...the service limit I posted (somewhere around here) of 2mm was actually for the drum brake linings, not the disc thickness. :)
And the brake arm bolts torque specs refers to the drum brake. So if you ever need to work on the front disc brake, the caliper mount bolts' torque specs are really 2.9 - 3.5 kg-m instead of the .8 - 1.2. You definitely don't want those too loose!
And what's up with the manual saying Agility 50 at the top of one page and then Filly 50 at the top of the next. :D
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All good to know!
The manual is certainly interesting - I really wonder how much you can even trust it since it is very inconsistent.
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I know who I'll be consulting when I go to do that on my scoot. I'm interested in finding out where those 2 mystery screws that have to be removed are!
I couldn't see how you could get the cover off without taking the turn signals off so we're either both missing something, or you just need to take the turn signals off and the manual didn't mention that.
Yeah, I don't have the PDF thingy on this computer, but I think the manual said something like remove 6 screws, then reach in and disconnect the lights or something.
But, since I didn't need to take them all the way off to see if there was any fluid leaking around the master cylinder I just removed the 2 screws under the lights and let them gently hang down and rest against the scoot 'til I saw what I needed to see. I'd rather not mess with any wires unless I have to.
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The headlight piece comes off easily and can be separated without any trouble, you just remove the quick connect plug.
It seems crazy that you have to take so much apart just the reach the master cylinder. You'd think they would design that for easy access.
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I know, right?? Makes me wish I knew how to "make" stuff like other folks on the forum. I would cut a section of that back handlebar cover and attach some tabs or screws or something in the smaller section so you could get to it easily if you need to.
Yup...I kept looking for that quick-connect thingy for the turn signal lights by shining the flashlight through that little 1/4" opening...no such luck...lol!
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Haven't disconnected the turn signals yet so I can't give you any hints on that one!
Maybe there is something to the naked frankenguilty idea Word came up with - easy access to all the parts.
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Ever since the first day I brought the scoot home I have been wanting to take all of the covers off! Crazy, huh? I'd kinda like to get a good look at everything and see what is where. But I barely have enough room for the scoot...where would I put all the plastics and screws? :D
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I'll have to see how many body panels I'll have to take off to get those led lights installed.
I get the feeling that I might end up having to take off more than I would want to.
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I'd count on it. That seems to be the way it goes. I'd like to take them all off and put them all back on again a couple of times so I can learn how to do it without looking at that manual. It gives me a headache sometimes...:D
Where or how are you thinking to attach the leds? Do they come with any kind of clips or fasteners, oswaldters?
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They are attached with double sided tape, so you can stick them to whatever you want. The mounting kit also comes with some mounting brackets for putting the pods in on an angle.
I'll have 10 pods so I'm thinking about where to put them. At least several pods will be around the rear wheel area and then they'll be some by the front wheel. I'm also thinking the air intake under the seat will have a couple too.
Beyond that I'll just play with some ideas for a while and see what I come up with.
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That sounds pretty good. I wonder how well the tape will hold. I'm thinking someone said they have to stay on solid and not flash. Is that right?
I do wonder why the scoots don't come equipped with flashing hazard type lights like cars do. When I first checked it out I half expected to be able to push that turn signal swith in in the center position to have both signals flash at the same time.
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They do sell sets that change color and strobe etc. But my understanding is that is illegal to use - which makes sense given how much of a distraction that would be for everyone. Be visible is one thing, flashing like a Christmas tree is another.
That tape is supposed to be very strong (I think it's called VHB tape) and the led pods weight almost nothing. Shouldn't be a problem to mount the pods.
I hope to get to it this weekend.
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Yeah, 'specially if you puttin' 'em right under the seat...I reckon you're butt would be flashin' then.
You gonna have a project every weekend, lol.
I wouldn't mind havin' some different mirrors one day.
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Although, I have thought about putting in one of those tail lights that flashes when you first activate the brake. The local PD motor units have them so I'm guess they're legal.
A project every weekend is good until the temps drop more, but that won't be too far off.
I did think about mirrors too - the stock ones don't work too well for me.
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Hey, that tail light idea would be a good thing. Everything you can add that will help alert other drivers is a plus. Your mirrors don't agree with you either? I thought it was just me because I'm short or something. They're great if you wanna look at your arm or your elbow or something. I just don't think they give a good view of what's behind you. Maybe if they came out further or something??
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Agreed - they would be better if they stuck out to the side more - a rectangular shape instead of round.
When winter comes around and I wear a heavy coat, I can't see much of anything with those mirrors.
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I was thinking the same thing. The only winter coat I have is a size or 2 too big for me and it's a little on the puffy side. It's pretty warm, but it's not gonna be great for riding. It's dark too so not only will I have a hard time seeing other folks in the mirrors, they may have a harder time seeing me. Yes, the rectangular ones would be better than these round ones.
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Either that or have some mirrors that stick further our so you can get a wider view.
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Yes, these stock ones sure could use an extender that could allow for a few more inches on each.
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Topic is getting off from tool?
New topic maybe? Winter Clothes, Cold Weather Gear? ???
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The current conversation was actually leading up to which tools, if any, would be needed to change out your mirrors...but...yeah, we could chat about which tools would be needed to install heated grips and such in a Winter Clothes, Cold Weather Gear topic too, I suppose...
You snag any deer yet?
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The current conversation was actually leading up to which tools, if any, would be needed to change out your mirrors...but...yeah, we could chat about which tools would be needed to install heated grips and such in a Winter Clothes, Cold Weather Gear topic too, I suppose...
You snag any deer yet?
Tools that come in handy depending on your technical abilites.
1) Tire gauage.
2) Feeler gauges, checking spark plug gap and valves.
3) Plastic Welder made by Devcon is some awesome stuff for bonding plastics.
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@Rianna
Hi
No, I have not taken any deer yet. I have seen plenty of does (female deer / anterless deer) and young bucks (male deer) Snagged a few good pictures though. ;-)
Your providing a lot of good info (off of tools) Winter warm clothing is important to those that ride in cold climates. I feel that this info may be not noticed by an individual that could use your experience and opinions.
I am no way to trying to be a moderator, just helping to keep it organized. Pass on good info just make it easy to find :)
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@lankeeyankee
Hi. No problem, lankeeyankee, I DO tend to get Off Topic quite a bit. This is the first technical type forum I've been to and I didn't notice any dedicated Off-topic thread. I may get the hang of things, though, and learn when to start a new topic. So sorry about the deer. You may have to wait for a night when the moon is right and go at night then. (If I was a big male deer sleeping all day and waking up at night hungry I would probably climb a mountain or the peak of a hill so I could look out all around and scout the best places to find food...and I'd probably wait until sometime between midnight and 2am when all the human folks get quiet.) Hope you bring home lots this year. :)
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Plastic Welder made by Devcon is something I may just have to google and learn about. Sounds like a great thing to have on hand.