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Title: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 10, 2021, 12:32:57 AM
Looking at all the gray hair.....

1) Is this a scooter rally sign-up in N. America?
.................................................................

2) Or, Covid vaccination day?

(https://i.postimg.cc/kGD8cJBJ/20210209-121546.jpg)

Hint: "Moderna", is an Italian scooter brand, or?

Stig

Title: Re: What are these old folks doing....? Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 10, 2021, 08:27:22 AM
Does that mean you’ve had your shot then Tom?


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Title: Re: What are these old folks doing....? Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 10, 2021, 12:01:40 PM
Yes, Guido - my sister's cousin's nephew's barber made an offer to get me in with the "65+Summers" group on the 'count of he owes me.

We had a great time a - but there was a no cookie after the shot!
Then they give a you a card a - so maybe I can a get a free car wash a.....or something, I'll talk to my sister which I don't have.



TCP

PS: this all went down in the former JC Penneys of our now dead mall. Very sad. I'm sitting in the area where the ladies' mentionables used to be - my fav place to hang out!
Title: What are these old folks doing....? Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 10, 2021, 01:00:25 PM
Think I detect a bit of humorous redacting there?... or are you now also aka The Don?


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Title: Re: What are these old folks doing....? Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 11, 2021, 05:28:03 PM
First they did the 'trouble makers' - the really old people and the scooter riders. Yesterday they started giving the vaccine to K>12 teachers.

No issues 2 days after the vaccine.....except I can't play the violin.

Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: de dee on February 11, 2021, 06:21:15 PM

  when do you get called old Im 87,  88 in a few weeks due to get my shot in sept. maybe, thats OK here,   as I am in Canada  should have stayed in the artic, they all got it  , by the news,  is the covid 19 dead at 20 below 0  ,.  freeze little buggers,.!!!
Title: Re: What are these old folks doing....? Feb, 2021
Post by: klaviator on February 11, 2021, 10:16:06 PM
No issues 2 days after the vaccine.....except I can't play the violin.
Stig

Could you play the violin before the vaccine?
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 11, 2021, 11:18:11 PM
Could you play the violin before the vaccine?
Well, no.

Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: mousejunks on February 12, 2021, 02:45:05 AM
These new mRNA vaccines are amazing. Make your own custom mRNA sequence, find a way to put it into a cell, and the cell translates the mRNA to make viral surface proteins. The protein causes the immune system to form an immune response against the virus. No need for attenuated or killed viruses.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 12, 2021, 09:39:50 AM
Well, no.

Stig

The old gags are the best!
Title: Re: What are these old folks doing....? Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 12, 2021, 11:24:00 AM
Yes, Guido - my sister's cousin's nephew's barber made an offer to get me in with the "65+Summers" group on the 'count of he owes me.

We had a great time a - but there was a no cookie after the shot!
Then they give a you a card a - so maybe I can a get a free car wash a.....or something, I'll talk to my sister which I don't have.

TCP

PS: this all went down in the former JC Penneys of our now dead mall. Very sad. I'm sitting in the area where the ladies' mentionables used to be - my fav place to hang out!

Gonna join you Tom.  Just had my vaccination call up letter as they've reached the over 65's age band over here now.  Go to get it Monday afternoon so if it's dry, good excuse for a ride over on the scooter!
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 12, 2021, 01:01:08 PM
Gonna join you Tom.  Just had my vaccination call up letter as they've reached the over 65's age band over here now.  Go to get it Monday afternoon so if it's dry, good excuse for a ride over on the scooter!

Good for you!
But, I don't know if scooter riding straight away is a good idea.....what if the urge for violin playing should overcome you?!
Best wait 1/2hr with a clean bit of folded linen under your chin, just in case.
Pretty sure that's why they had me wait....

Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 12, 2021, 01:26:39 PM
Sound precaution, will do. Watch out Stefan Grapelli 

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Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 12, 2021, 04:37:07 PM
Could not get hydroxychloroquine so got some covid stuff from Tractor Supply....works on cows real well. Works on humans, too. Bill Gates has nothing to do with it so maybe it's safe!

I couldn't play the violin before, either! Still can't, too!

Seriously, (no, really!) we have had some very negative results locally from the first injections. All seniors  so far, most with previous issues except one with really good health now on life support. Since pharma was so quick to make hydroxychloroquine "unobtanium" meant the covid probably could be treated with something that already existed like farm stuff.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: scooterfan on February 12, 2021, 07:02:25 PM
At this side of the pond our corrupt government spent millions on a vaccine which is not suitable for the new Covid strain in South Africa. On top of this - on arrival of the vaccine from India local officials discovered that the expiry date of the vaccine is due within just more than one month fro date of arrival. The arrival of the useless vaccine has been announced with a big “hoo-haa” by our President - but a couple of days ago it has been announced that the vaccine will not be used at all.

For the time being I got hold of Ivermectin - many local people reported good result already. Waiting for our government to wake up doesn’t seem to be an option.

https://ivmmeta.com/


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Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Ruffus on February 12, 2021, 07:49:52 PM
@scooterfan, (pls see att. Statement)

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-
19 Pandemic


February 4, 2021 11:45 am EST
KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies; 

No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and; 

A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
Indications and Usage for STROMECTOL® (ivermectin)
Ivermectin is approved in the United States under the brand name STROMECTOL. STROMECTOL is indicated for the treatment of intestinal (i.e., nondisseminated) strongyloidiasis due to the nematode parasite Strongyloides stercoralis and for the treatment of onchocerciasis due to the nematode parasite Onchocerca volvulus.
STROMECTOL has no activity against adult Onchocerca volvulus parasites.
SELECTED SAFETY INFORMATION FOR STROMECTOL® (ivermectin)
Contraindications
STROMECTOL is contraindicated in patients who are hypersensitive to any component of this product.
Warnings and Precautions
Patients treated with STROMECTOL for onchocerciasis may experience cutaneous and/or systemic reactions of varying severity (the Mazzotti reaction) and ophthalmological reactions.
After treatment with microfilaricidal drugs, patients with hyperreactive onchodermatitis (sowda) may be more likely than others to experience severe adverse reactions, especially edema and aggravation of onchodermatitis.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 12, 2021, 09:08:53 PM
Ivermectin is the EXACT stuff we have started. Must beveffective because not only was there a big sign on the locked cabinet containing this very medication saying NOT FOR HUMAN USE but got a big lecture and 20 questions from the clerk. Of course Merck or any other pharma is going to pooh-pooh this since THEY were the ones who got hydroxychloroquine banned.

Personally, I care not what Merck says...
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: mousejunks on February 12, 2021, 09:33:07 PM
Ivermectin is also used for scabies infestation in cats and dogs and crusted scabies in humans. Its relative abamectin is used in roach bait and plant pesticides.

In summary ivermectin is an insecticide and parasiticide. It doesn't have any antiviral activity. It might have an unknown effect on symptoms, but there are ethical considerations when giving unproven drugs to seriously ill patients. If they die, who is to blame?
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 13, 2021, 12:39:29 AM
We (wife and I) are using Ivermectin. We are not recommending anyone else taking it. We have had several in the community perish and several hospitalized after the first covid shot. Warfarin is a prescription blood thinner. It is also rat poison.

Consider this like a car tire on a motorcycle or scooter: I have one on my scoot and I really don't care if you put one on yours. Or not.

Har, har!
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 13, 2021, 03:34:18 PM
Some 300+ killed by Covid in my small county.
You can see the ages  here.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjxmYZK6/Capture.jpg)

According to today's paper, enough of my fellow citizens are calling for an appointment that they "blew up" the County Health Dept's phone system yesterday. I managed to get an appt. last week by going on-line, early.  Not every senior has, or is adept at computers.

My wife works at the city's only hospital. I asked her to let me know when they have a fatality related to the any of the 3 vaccines.

Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 13, 2021, 05:27:11 PM
I’ll take my chances with the vaccine thanks.


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Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: scooterfan on February 14, 2021, 04:39:28 AM
@ Ruffus
Thanks for the attached statement. In our country many people started using Ivermectin. Our goverment actually put a ban on it but recently lost a court case filed by a local Civil pressure group. So the ban has been released and Ivermectin can only be prescribed by medical doctors. Many local doctors prescribed Ivermectin anyway, although other doctors refuse to prescribe it to the public.
I am a member of a large local group who share their personal experience with Ivermectin. For what it’s worth - there are many good reports and many people beleive they, a family member, friend, or somebody they know survived simply because they started using Ivermectin. So I decided to get hold of the stuff as well.

@Crossbolt
I also got hold of the “not for human use” stuff. Very difficult to get hold of due to the huge demand by the public.
I initially though I would only start using it whenever I get Covid symtoms, but I saw some people at our local group mentioned that their sinus and athma problems have disappeared since they started using Ivermectin. I have a similar problem, so I decided to give it a go as well. Took the first dosis five days ago, and the next three days afterwards. So far so good - the sinus problem is much better and the lungs are clear. This could be pure co-incidence, but it seems to work. I started thinking I will use the stuff more often.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Ruffus on February 14, 2021, 11:52:56 AM
@scooterfan,
thank you so much for your input and direct view of experience in this all over very emotional seen matter. I would appreciate to see how this goes further, particularely your personal experience.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 14, 2021, 12:42:51 PM
@ Ruffus
Thanks for the attached statement. In our country many people started using Ivermectin. Our goverment actually put a ban on it but recently lost a court case filed by a local Civil pressure group. So the ban has been released and Ivermectin can only be prescribed by medical doctors. Many local doctors prescribed Ivermectin anyway, although other doctors refuse to prescribe it to the public.
I am a member of a large local group who share their personal experience with Ivermectin. For what it’s worth - there are many good reports and many people beleive they, a family member, friend, or somebody they know survived simply because they started using Ivermectin. So I decided to get hold of the stuff as well.

@Crossbolt
I also got hold of the “not for human use” stuff. Very difficult to get hold of due to the huge demand by the public.
I initially though I would only start using it whenever I get Covid symtoms, but I saw some people at our local group mentioned that their sinus and athma problems have disappeared since they started using Ivermectin. I have a similar problem, so I decided to give it a go as well. Took the first dosis five days ago, and the next three days afterwards. So far so good - the sinus problem is much better and the lungs are clear. This could be pure co-incidence, but it seems to work. I started thinking I will use the stuff more often.
Rule 39: No such thing as "coincidence." Gibbs says so.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: scooterfan on February 14, 2021, 01:48:09 PM
@ Ruffus

No problem, I will.
If you are on Facebook you can also join or view the group “Ivermectin & Zoono” - a South African group focussed on the use of Ivermectin.
Unfortunately the discussions are mainly in Afrikaans, my home language. I am not sure, maybe you will be able to translate to English.
I am not sure about the Zoono product, I think more investigation is needed.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Forbes1964 on February 15, 2021, 09:14:28 AM
I plan on getting the vaccine ASAP. The deaths and serious complications among people in my demographic (African Americans) seem to exceed the deaths in the general population. In addition, I have an underlying condition (type 2 diabetes). And I personally knew 3 people slightly younger than I am (56) who’ve died, even more when I include friends of friends and older people. To be fair, I also knew several who’ve had mild symptoms, no symptoms, and severe symptoms. . On my job , we’ve had 3 cases.  One was very mild. The other moderate. They re now back at work.  But  one person was hospitalized. I don’t know if she’s out or if she’s still there. It’s been 3 weeks now. So I’m concerned now.

A church member and her sister took the vaccine.  One took the Pfizer. One took the other one. My 89 year old mother took the first dose. No bad reactions in either case.


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Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Ruffus on February 15, 2021, 10:58:26 AM
@Forbes1964,
thank you for sharing your experience with us.
Our/my family is (un)fortunately spread all over Europe. Our comms are now enhanced in this subject for most of us are nearing (old) age. My sister and kids/grandchildren in Austria did not have any loss to mourn. Also our nices/grandnices in Denmark were spared of such an issue. We have a lot of family in south of Europe, which are now pretty mature (older than 70). All of them where tested positiv but had only very light symtoms. Here vaccinating for people older than 65 years of age is postponed.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 15, 2021, 03:30:41 PM
I plan on getting the vaccine ASAP. The deaths and serious complications among people in my demographic (African Americans) seem to exceed the deaths in the general population. In addition, I have an underlying condition (type 2 diabetes). And I personally knew 3 people slightly younger than I am (56) who’ve died, even more when I include friends of friends and older people. To be fair, I also knew several who’ve had mild symptoms, no symptoms, and severe symptoms. . On my job , we’ve had 3 cases.  One was very mild. The other moderate. They re now back at work.  But  one person was hospitalized. I don’t know if she’s out or if she’s still there. It’s been 3 weeks now. So I’m concerned now.

A church member and her sister took the vaccine.  One took the Pfizer. One took the other one. My 89 year old mother took the first dose. No bad reactions in either case.


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I'm with you Forbes1964.  In fact I had my Astra Zeneca vaccine this afternoon even though other than age, I have no real comorbities.  I know of 2 deaths in my age band (late 60's) who died after contracting Covid-19 and my wife and daughter had been begging me to get my shot at the earliest opportunity, so I did.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Viper254 on February 16, 2021, 10:26:53 AM
Yes, it's been carnage with COVID deaths in the UK.

I'm glad some of you are getting your vaccines. I'm in the lowest-risk group, so will probably around September at this rate.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 16, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
Yes, it's been carnage with COVID deaths in the UK.

I'm glad some of you are getting your vaccines. I'm in the lowest-risk group, so will probably around September at this rate.
Vipe - let's hope it won't be that long for your vaccination.
also.....is there a story for us here?!! Honda C70C (red, 1983, fire damaged 2020) If not - well - make something up! (with a car chase through London, riding down stairways, reversing against traffic, etc.!)

Keep safe....
Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Viper254 on February 18, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
Vipe - let's hope it won't be that long for your vaccination.
also.....is there a story for us here?!! Honda C70C (red, 1983, fire damaged 2020) If not - well - make something up! (with a car chase through London, riding down stairways, reversing against traffic, etc.!)

Keep safe....
Stig

There is a story, I guess - I'll write it up one day when I'm quiet at work :)

I'm quite young and don't have any health issues so I'm happy to wait for now.
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 18, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
There is a story, I guess - I'll write it up one day when I'm quiet at work :)

I'm quite young and don't have any health issues so I'm happy to wait for now.

We look forward to that story Viper, expectations set high now!

Young eh?  Well the news this morning* here in the UK was that the age range most at risk of catching C-19 is the 18-24's!  So stay safe.

* The report found falls in infections across all age groups, with 18 to 24-year-olds and five to 12-year-olds currently having the highest virus levels
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 18, 2021, 02:01:34 PM
We look forward to that story Viper, expectations set high now!

Young eh?  Well the news this morning* here in the UK was that the age range most at risk of catching C-19 is the 18-24's!  So stay safe.

* The report found falls in infections across all age groups, with 18 to 24-year-olds and five to 12-year-olds currently having the highest virus levels
The good news is that most of those youngsters survive - and go on to help seniors flummoxed by the instructions to their electronic devices.

Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 19, 2021, 09:22:35 AM
True. You forgot to mention they also go on to fulfil that vital role of fashion policing of parents...


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Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 19, 2021, 11:10:45 AM
True. You forgot to mention they also go on to fulfil that vital role of fashion policing of parents...


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"Mom, Dad's wearing that homeless shirt again!"
"Yeah, well missy, it wouldn't have holes in the elbows if you hadn't pushed a senior down in the creek at Yellow Springs !"
"Wasn't a push. A bump, maybe..."

It's a really soft old army fatigue shirt...
OK, 50+yrs old.
Stig
Title: Re: Getting the Covid vaccine ...Feb, 2021
Post by: Neil955i on February 20, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
"Mom, Dad's wearing that homeless shirt again!"
"Yeah, well missy, it wouldn't have holes in the elbows if you hadn't pushed a senior down in the creek at Yellow Springs !"
"Wasn't a push. A bump, maybe..."

It's a really soft old army fatigue shirt...
OK, 50+yrs old.
Stig
Beats my 30 year-old black walking boots which I still wear on occasion. Oldest shirt? A mere 20-odd years old!

This gives me an idea for a new thread...


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