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Title: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 17, 2020, 09:55:27 PM
Anyone ride one of these yet?
I was just surfing a friendly scooter dealer in TX (Moxiescooters) who helped me get some Kymco crash bars for my LIKE200i years ago - and came across these....

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvbTb2Kz/RA150.jpg)

Twin discs, pretty cool adjustable front shocks, Rust-Belt friendly Thai metal body panels from the good folks at ONG GAKAPANTHONGCHONBURI, no EFI, but LED indicators......and a fine set of TIMSUN tires....

Stig
https://www.moxiescooters.com/inventory/2021-genuine-scooter-grand-tourer-150-red-and-cream-colleyville-tx-76034-10645536i (https://www.moxiescooters.com/inventory/2021-genuine-scooter-grand-tourer-150-red-and-cream-colleyville-tx-76034-10645536i)
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: big blue on November 17, 2020, 10:49:15 PM
I like the idea of it with the Sym designed engine and a very Lambretta like front suspension. I don't understand the carbureted engine at this point in time unless the price point required it. Good looking metal body and paint scheme altogether a nice package. I had a high school friend who owned a Lambretta LI 150 which I got to ride many times. In my opinion it was superior to the Vespa due to the centrally placed engine and longer wheel base.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Kansas kymco on November 18, 2020, 05:14:06 AM
Seen them on ebay for $2900. don't know anything about them. Unless they have good parts supply and support I would be leary of purchasing one.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 18, 2020, 08:23:37 AM
See one in daily use by one of the staff at my local supermarket. Never yet got to speak to him/her.


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Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Kansas kymco on November 18, 2020, 12:43:29 PM
I own a Lambretta uno 150. It's made by a Taiwan company Herchee. Same bike is sold as a Adly as well.  A importer has brought both to the US for a very short time then no more.  The scooter is a good machine and well made but parts and support are non-existent.  Any machine that’s not brought in with proper support I would be reluctant to own .

Look how large Kymco is in the US and still mediocre support but it's there.  That's where Honda, Yamaha Suzuki and Kawasaki shine their parts and support are very good. Also look at resell, the major names  are household brands and resell reflects this. The majority of the public does not know the difference between a Taiwanese and Chinese scooter.  Even the Kymco  ad's  on Craigslist most state (not a cheap Chinese scooter).

The fact the general public lacks knowledge about Kymco has worked in my favor for purchasing used machines at bargin prices. That's why I would be reluctant to purchase any machine that’s not been in the country for a while with a support network.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Viper254 on November 19, 2020, 02:10:14 PM
I see quite a lot of these in the UK now but know nothing about them. If they are in indeed Sym-based that's a good mark of quality in my book :)
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Kansas kymco on November 19, 2020, 03:28:33 PM
I see quite a lot of these in the UK now but know nothing about them. If they are in indeed Sym-based that's a good mark of quality in my book :)
I agree quality may be there. Do they have a dealer network in the UK?  Like my above post on the Herchee a good quality machine just no support.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 20, 2020, 11:18:48 AM
Yes there are a few dealers in the UK dotted around and they also sell them on line!
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: john grinsel on November 20, 2020, 03:59:21 PM
As I really use scooter I need strong dealer network.   Same mistake when Daelim from Korea came to US---crappy importer, few if any dealers in US, Wonderful product, had a new one in Korea---did not break in hard service, dealers great as they depend on commercial customers.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on November 21, 2020, 03:00:11 PM
I see quite a lot of these in the UK now but know nothing about them. If they are in indeed Sym-based that's a good mark of quality in my book :)
With all the "wet" in the U.K., I would have thought that a metal scooter would have few attractions for a Brit buyer?
maybe I'm just 'projecting'*, here😊

Stig
*...too many yrs working in a psychiatric hosp?
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 22, 2020, 09:01:45 AM
With all the "wet" in the U.K., I would have thought that a metal scooter would have few attractions for a Brit buyer?
maybe I'm just 'projecting'*, here[emoji4]

Stig
*...too many yrs working in a psychiatric hosp?
The one I see at the Supermarket is used year round, is four years old (if I remember correctly) and looks as though it’s faring pretty well; despite our weather and salted winter roads!


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Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 26, 2020, 03:18:17 PM
The one I see at the Supermarket is used year round, is four years old (if I remember correctly) and looks as though it’s faring pretty well; despite our weather and salted winter roads!


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This was it today.  (And it's actually 2 years-old!)
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 26, 2020, 03:29:03 PM
By the way, it doesn't happen often this time of year (there's hardly much point here), but shamed by Ruffus, I did wash the scoot yesterday so I thought I'd take a picture before it got crapped up again.  Here you go:
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 26, 2020, 03:40:10 PM
And another...
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: big blue on November 26, 2020, 05:49:55 PM
I just watched a review of the 300 version of the Royal Alloy in Britain. It uses the Vespa 300 GTS engine and has fuel injection.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Viper254 on November 27, 2020, 08:20:56 AM
Everything in this country has fuel injection now :)
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Kansas kymco on November 27, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
Everything in this country has fuel injection now :)
I beleive the only two Kymco's that have carburetors are the agilities 50 and 125 sold in the US.  Lots of cheap Chinese scooters still have carburetors. 

Is it  mandatory they have FI in the UK?
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Neil955i on November 30, 2020, 08:40:35 AM
Maybe not mandatory, but it helps in meeting Euro4/5 regs?
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: Viper254 on December 07, 2020, 12:29:42 PM
I beleive the only two Kymco's that have carburetors are the agilities 50 and 125 sold in the US.  Lots of cheap Chinese scooters still have carburetors. 

Is it  mandatory they have FI in the UK?

By proxy; it's impossible to meet Euro standards on anything but a 50cc without fuel injection.

I'm all in favour; all the fuel injections fitted to most of Chinese stuff are Bosch, Denso or Delphi so it's decent quality.
Title: Re: 2021 Royal Alloy anyone?
Post by: scooterfan on December 07, 2020, 02:59:13 PM
I thought the Super 8 150cc carburettor models are available in the US ?