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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: johnuana on October 05, 2010, 01:24:35 PM
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Hi everyone!
I have Agility city 50 (2008 model) and i would want to de-restrict the CDI box.
I've read some posts and found out that i have to cut violet/red wire going to the CDI box (only in 2008 models). My problem is that there are 2 violet/red vires :P which one i have to cut ?
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2192/kuva0127.jpg)
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I don't think you cut the wires. I have an '07 agility 50 and I had to cut thru the box.
look up older posts on this forum and you will find great pictures to help you.
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Yeah, the agility city may be a bit different. I'm thinking I read somewhere around here about cutting either one of the wires, but I'm not sure as I haven't found the post yet. And I may have read that someone actually cut them both and had to buy a new box. Please don't cut until someone can find that post here or confirm it for you. I hate to see the box needs replaced because of cutting the wrong thing. Someone's gonna know for sure. And welcome to the forum. :)
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welcome to the forum. :)
thanks :)
I don't think you cut the wires. I have an '07 agility 50 and I had to cut thru the box.
look up older posts on this forum and you will find great pictures to help you.
yes, at first i thought about cutting the box, but then i read this:
2008 model. 3000kms. The rollers are the original ones (6g I think).
The main jet is #86.
I cut the violet/purple wire to the CDI as per Kymco's instructions (the CDI cut is for Agility 50 models: the Agility City 50 has a different CDI unit).
Someone's gonna know for sure.
i really hope you're right :D somebody has to know which wire to cut ;D
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hi john,and welcome to the forum,need a nice clear picture of your cdi box with plug connected please,and disconnected,then maybe i can help bud,cos that picture was no good to me whatsoever :( ;)
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Also, johnuana, do you have any numbers, like a part number, on your cdi box? Mine had a sticker on it with a long part #. That might help. It may be in your pic, but I can't make it out. I'm still looking around a bit. I got distracted earlier. I found several posts, but I'm looking for one where someone came back and posted confirmation of their success.
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I just can't tell from the picture for certain, so I thought I'd ask...Are we talking about "this" cdi???
http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=455.msg7008#msg7008 (http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=455.msg7008#msg7008)
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..honestly, i know of no definate solution to the City cdi restriction, other than replacing it...
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..there is PROBABLY a way to do it...and maybe i missed the solution somewhere in the threads...
:o
..it's a different animal than what we have here in the states...
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I just can't tell from the picture for certain, so I thought I'd ask...Are we talking about "this" cdi???
that looks like the same as the super8...
..you're right as rain rianna...
..gleaned from "scootergrisen's" previous post in a S8 thread...
Re: Instructions for de-restricting Super 8 50cc
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 08:34:33 AM » Quote
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I have removed one of the pink/purple wires and yes it does derestrict the CDI.
You only need to remove 1 of the pink/purple colored wires and it dossent matter which one.
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Thank you, wordslinger!!
I searched forever for that one...searching makes me crazy 'til I find it, lol. I was hoping it was the right one.
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..that cross-reference may hold true...
...they look the same, as far as wiring, and THAT is always the key....
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I hope, so. If we had a part # for that CDI and for scootergisen's CDI and they matched up...that would be cool.
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i took some new pictures ;D hope they are good enough :D
http://img18.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=img3626l.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=img3626l.jpg)
and thanks already! :D you people are so nice here :)
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Okay, thank you so much for the great pics, johnuana!! I can see your part # is 30410-LEJ2-E10 and in scootergrisen's previous post, I followed his links and I see the same part #. When looking at your pics and his pics I only see one difference and it may be insignificant. On the connector, I see your second set of holes on the connector - I'm talking about the slot where there is only one wire - it looks like your single wire may be colored green with a black stripe and his seems to be red. All of the connections and even the part #'s do seem to match up perfectly, though. I'm thinking this will be the solution for you. I'm going to post his link here and a link to the Google translated page so you can see also if this is the same CDI. And Please, if this solution works for you, do come back and shout, YES IT WORKED, or something similar so we will know in the future. :)
Here is Scootergrisen's page:
http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php (http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php)
And here is the translated page for Scootergrisen's page, the CDI with the part # is about halfway down the page and it says to remove from the connector only ONE (1) of the pink/purple colored wires:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=da&u=http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php&ei=7ISsTJUww_7wBrPzpYYH&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dzr%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Div (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=da&u=http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php&ei=7ISsTJUww_7wBrPzpYYH&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBsQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dzr%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Div)
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YES IT WORKED! :D max speed approximately 60 km/h ;D
THANK YOU!!!! :)
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That is AWESOME, johnuana!!! Thank you for letting us know!!! I don't know what speed you had before but 60kmh is great for such a quick and easy mod! Enjoy your new scoot!
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That is AWESOME, johnuana!!! Thank you for letting us know!!! I don't know what speed you had before but 60kmh is great for such a quick and easy mod! Enjoy your new scoot!
something about 50 km/h ;D
i definately will! :D
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Wow, a 10km increase! Good job!! Stick around and join the fun. There's lots of good folks and good fun here. :)
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And feel free to post pics of your scoot in the Eye Candy section if you have any...we would LOVE to see it! ;D
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Well done Rianna, like a dog with a bone, you don't stop, just keep going until you find the answer. A real asset to the forum.
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Awww, gee, thanks, sid. Y'all do the work, though. I'm just following your trail. ;)
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60 wow your on your way for a good ride.
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YES IT WORKED! max speed approximately 60 km/h
THANK YOU!!!!
..woo-hoooo!!!
;D :D ;D :D ;D
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Might be worth putting a thread in the tech section on the various derestrictions on various models. Keep em all together.
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..good idea sid..
..that City was a thorn in my side for a bit...
..we all kinda just stopped looking, for at that time, we could find nothing...
..same as with that ppl 250 info...
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Yeah that CDI box is exactly the same as mine. Its even made in the same year and month as mine.. At least my old CDI where the pictures are from.
I have tryed removing 1 of the pink/purple wires and then the other and both i think to se the difference and its the same. Just have to remove one of them. I think its the same wire that comes out and goes in so dossent matter where the wire is disconnected.
I use a small screwdriver to remove the cable from the connector instead of cutting it. That way you can always put it in again later.
The extra wire i have on my kymco super 8 connecter (the one that is empty on your kymco city) is for the light control box.
Because the front light on Kymco Super 8 has 2 bulbs i guess something thought it was a good idea to make a special box to control the front light.
The CDI sends a signal to the light control box to make it turn on the front lights but i have had alot of trouble with that and that was actualy why i bought a new CDI box because the signal was not made so i had no front light.
Anyways you might want to derestrict the variator also.
I read one place that its not so good to drive with derestriced cdi and restricted variator because it will make the engine run at high RPM at least if you full throttle it all the time.
I dont know if it is restricted on your model but i think it is on most models.
On my scooter i needed to buy a new smooth bush in order to remove the restiction. On some scooter you just need to remove a ring so you dont need to buy anything on those.
http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php#variator (http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/begrensninger.php#variator)
Different ways to remove the nut.
http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/transmission.php#fjern_motrikken_ved_de_forreste_remskiver (http://scootergrisen.dk/scooterhjemmeside/transmission.php#fjern_motrikken_ved_de_forreste_remskiver)
How to remove the variator nut on a Kymco Super 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYCasW5pY24#)