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Title: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: esellie on October 04, 2010, 05:40:50 AM
Lately it seems that it takes a long time for my Agility 50 to warm up even in 65 degree weather.  I have to run it for at least five minutes before it starts to run smooth.  Anyone have any idea's or suggestions what the problem might be?
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Post by: juice on October 04, 2010, 12:25:22 PM
Put 1 oz. per gal. of seafoam into the gas and put a new NGK iridium plug in . Good luck .
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Post by: oswaldters on October 04, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
From my experience it is one of those things that you just have to get used to.  The agilitys just don't like the cold, or the rain, especially the cold and rain together.

I does seems a little unusal that you would need to warm up that long if temps are still in the 60s, but  as Word would say each scoot has their own personality.  I find that even in the 50-60 degree range there is some warm-up involved, but usually reasonably gentle driving helps warm it up - alhtough there will be some hesitation for the first few minutes.     


Taking 5 minutes to warm it up before you even try to ride if the scoot has been sitting outside in temps below 50 degrees isn't unusal in my experience.  Depending how much cold weather you ride in, you might be up to 10 minutes of warm-up for temps below 30 degrees. 
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Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on October 04, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
could be an auto choke issue  ;)
Title: Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: oswaldters on October 04, 2010, 10:00:41 PM
could be an auto choke issue

Yeah you go that right- the auto choke (auto bypass in Kymco lexicon) sucks on the agility.

First winter I called the dealer and they said everyone who has the agility is complaining and they bring in the scoot but there's nothing mechanically wrong.

They never found a solution for it - tried changing carbs, testing auto bypasses etc. but no luck.  Said just warm it up.

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Post by: blue on October 04, 2010, 11:56:59 PM
welcome to the kymco world. mine did the same tell I took it in to a dealer and they rejeted it for the cold weather it starts great in the cold but I did notice a little harder in warmer weather wich is fine with me . the frist year I had it I always had to heat the shed up just to start my scoot but Now I dont
it starts great in the cold. I beleave if you just have the carb tuned up and rejeted you well be all good.
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Post by: oswaldters on October 05, 2010, 12:00:27 AM
That's good to hear that someone figured out a cold weather solution.  First I've heard.

What jet was put in?  I'll be getting one of those myself - getting cold here already.
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Post by: blue on October 05, 2010, 12:05:23 AM
That's good to hear that someone figured out a cold weather solution.  First I've heard.

What jet was put in?  I'll be getting one of those myself - getting cold here already.

not sure what size they put in I cant find my old one to see what size was taken out.
mmmm I do rember seeing eather the #  89  or 98 not sure so dont hold me to this.
Title: Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: wordslinger on October 05, 2010, 01:22:32 AM
Lately it seems that it takes a long time for my Agility 50 to warm up even in 65 degree weather.  I have to run it for at least five minutes before it starts to run smooth.  Anyone have any idea's or suggestions what the problem might be?

..i do that in hot or cold weather anyway...however....



..it's a normal temperature change issue...

..it's true, the a50 is sensitive to temp and humidity changes..espeacially, if you're using a K&N type air filter...

..you might try opening the idle screw 1/4-1/2 a turn counter clockwise...

..that'll increase the fuel ratio to air into your idle mix...


..colder air is more dense, which might require a bit more fuel to keep it running well...
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Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on October 05, 2010, 08:58:17 PM
my gosh it was just a suggestion ::)
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Post by: oswaldters on October 05, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
my gosh it was just a suggestion

And a good one at that.  Sensing any frustration on my part with that auto bypass? 

I'd rather have a manual choke that works...
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Post by: wordslinger on October 05, 2010, 11:45:04 PM
..that "Auto-Bystarter" is just another manifestation of the nature of the beast...


..zombie, and i think, shaka are running manual chokes on their zx's...

..dunno of any other....
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Post by: oswaldters on October 05, 2010, 11:58:14 PM
running manual chokes

That sounds tempting - I might consider that!
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 12:02:20 AM
..yeah, sometimes my scoot needs "auto" choking...sometimes it is more of a nuisance....
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 12:04:28 AM
Let's cut out the middle man and just go with the fuel injection.
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Post by: sidthesloth on October 06, 2010, 12:57:30 AM
Yep, oko carb, manual choke, just wish I could put on a remote control for it, on the handlebar.
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 12:58:53 AM
wish I could put on a remote control for it, on the handlebar


...YEAH!!!!!!...
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:14:03 AM
With it getting so cold this early in fall, I'm wishing I had a remote start unit. 

Then I could hook it up to the clapper and be able to start the scoot from the shower.
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Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:16:04 AM
They makes a shower clapper now?  lol
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:17:05 AM
..i saw a guy that had one of them on his chinese scoot last year...


..ain't seen him but the one time ...


..but that WOULD BE AWESOME!!!...
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:18:33 AM
...clap on....


..rinse..dry..

...RIDE!!!
Title: Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:18:54 AM
He had a shower clapper on his chinese scoot? ???
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:20:46 AM
...clap on....


..rinse..dry..

...RIDE!!!


And if someone tried to steal the scoot you could just clap it off before they got to far away
Title: Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:21:24 AM
He had a shower clapper on his chinese scoot?


..YEAH!!!!..no...lol..

..a remote key-fob thingy...lol..
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Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:22:10 AM
lmao...I'm tryin' to keep up here. :D
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:22:49 AM
..a KILL-SWITCH!!...remote!!!

..up to 5 miles....


..sounds like a patent-pending...
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:23:14 AM
Well you could use the fob,  but the clapper has a definite wow factor.

My concern about the remote start would be draining the battery.
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Post by: sidthesloth on October 06, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
They are on ebay, alarm, remote start, remote stop. I think either blue or yankee d had one.
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:27:33 AM
..yup...
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Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:30:54 AM
It would be funny to attach the motion sensor (on the alarm) to a sprayer filled with paint balls.
Title: Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:35:15 AM
attach the motion sensor (on the alarm) to a sprayer filled with paint balls


...wowww..you're mean!!!


 ;)
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:36:42 AM
Rianna takes her security seriously.

Mean would be filling the paint balls with pepper spray!
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Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:39:07 AM
lol...seriously, oswaldters, was thinking 'bout yer battery cover deal, when I thought that one up. Yeah, I thought about the mace too, but my luck, somebody, be walking their dog or something...better to have a bright green or red dog, lol
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:41:36 AM
I wish I could come up with something clever to protect the scoot - well, really the various components of the scoot that I worry about people taking. 
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Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:43:26 AM
If something started spittin' pepper spray, or paint, or even water at me, I'd leave it alone for sure...lol

u could get ya one of them barking door mats and velcro it to the floorboard over the battery... :D
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:43:52 AM
....dang...components...

..os,i aint ever heard of anybody else much gettin' ...

..parts...ripped off their scoot...wowww..
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:44:40 AM
...touch th' scoot...

..eyes burning....
Title: Re: Engine takes a long time to warm up.
Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:45:25 AM
...another patent-pending....
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:46:37 AM
aint ever heard of anybody else much gettin' ...

Let's hope we don't hear of it happening again.
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Post by: Rianna on October 06, 2010, 01:47:34 AM
That be a "Physical Alarm"
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:49:03 AM
..yup...

..bump me i go "WHOOP-WHOOP"!!!!


 ;D
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Post by: oswaldters on October 06, 2010, 01:50:44 AM
..bump me i go "WHOOP-WHOOP"!!!!

Then you throw your Bud Light splash guard at them.
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Post by: wordslinger on October 06, 2010, 01:56:05 AM
...NNNO..never throw a BudLight... :-\

..unlesn it's empty...

 ;D