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Title: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 19, 2020, 07:30:46 AM
Just got a used 2006 people 150 was told I need a new belt... have no idea what size,kind,or where to even get one... :[
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Tromper on July 19, 2020, 09:12:53 AM
I'm sure a few others will chime in, but pretty sure that OEM is a bando. If you open it up and take a look there might still be some printing on the old belt, assuming it's the original anyway.
https://www.partsforscooters.com/106-121-Bando-Belt-781-20-30-Kevlar (https://www.partsforscooters.com/106-121-Bando-Belt-781-20-30-Kevlar) for instance.

There are probably some aftermarket ones that'll work too.  Stick with the big names and you'll most likely be fine.
Some peeps may flame me on that, but I ran a Malossi or a Dunlop on about half a cannonball on my S200 then added another thousand to it before selling it.  It was still fine.
The Bando's still cheap enough these days though.

Probably a good idea to check the rollers and the affiliated little sliders (not to be confused with the sliders you can use instead of rollers) on the ramp plate.
I'd just change 'em out personally.  Maybe drop a gram on your rollers, possibly try DP sliders vs. rollers. 
The DP sliders I installed on my S helped a bit, definitely with an acceleration dead spot it had,  but I really should have dropped a gram as well. 
I did that on my SYM and it cut my mpg a tad but well worth it.  I have 1 gram lighter rollers on my other SYM.  It grabs quicker than the sliders and has a bit more acceleration, but is not as smooth.
This thread talks about that a bit regarding the People 150 specifically.  Looking like 18X14 - 15g is stock per one post
https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1966.0 (https://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=1966.0)
and per this handy chart
https://www.scooterworks.com/blog/2012/11/13/roller-size-chart/ (https://www.scooterworks.com/blog/2012/11/13/roller-size-chart/)



How many miles on the bike?

Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: scooterfan on July 19, 2020, 12:45:10 PM
The names “Bando” and “Kymco” are both printed on my 2009 Agility’s belt - so I guess Bando might be the manufacturer of “genuine” Kymco belts.

Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Iahawk on July 19, 2020, 01:58:45 PM
here's a link to your scooter's trans and belt at Parts Outlaw

https://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts/a/kym/5b50e8d187a866110c2e08f5/driven-pulley (https://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts/a/kym/5b50e8d187a866110c2e08f5/driven-pulley)

they have the OEM belt as part # 23100 for $46.95
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Iahawk on July 19, 2020, 02:04:29 PM
and here's a pic..you can do a search for Kymco CVT belt 23100...found this pic (and listing $43 + $6 shipping) on Amazon, assuming you're in the US
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 19, 2020, 02:05:05 PM
The names “Bando” and “Kymco” are both printed on my 2009 Agility’s belt - so I guess Bando might be the manufacturer of “genuine” Kymco belts.
Correct. If any doubts or over your skill set you can have a Kymco dealer change it out or scooter/motorcycle dealer change it out. You will need the proper tools a torque wrench along with a variator tool to keep it from turning when you torque the nuts down.  If you do not torque it properly you can cause damage if the variator comes loose.
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 20, 2020, 12:28:53 AM
Scooters at a friend of the family's he the one doing the mechanics lol. The second day in had it I was driving down the road n all of a sudden it lost its ability to go.. hoping its jus a belt issue but there is 7300k miles.
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 20, 2020, 12:31:26 AM
If I go to a motorcycle/scooter store will they have belts for it ? Or is Amazon my best bet?
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Tromper on July 20, 2020, 03:58:41 AM
Whatever works best economically and in terms of delivery for ya.
In my neck 'o the wold Amazon rules.  I can get things delivered to nearby lockers and such so I don't have to worry about porch pirates so much.
Elsewhere?  Your results may vary.  Depends on what they use for delivery.  Here..UPS has been pretty dubious & the USPS rocks if not going with Amazon.


Just got a used 2006 people 150 was told I need a new belt... have no idea what size,kind,or where to even get one... :[
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 20, 2020, 04:08:44 AM
Yea I thinkmimma go with amazon I jus suck at trying to search for thing s that I'm not certain about n not having the the scooter here to  check olf belt has me searching for stuff I dont know about lol
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: souzamoto on July 20, 2020, 05:31:30 AM
Yea I thinkmimma go with amazon I jus suck at trying to search for thing s that I'm not certain about n not having the the scooter here to  check olf belt has me searching for stuff I dont know about lol

Why not call a nearby Kymco dealer? They may have in stock or may have to order. You will be getting an OEM part
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 20, 2020, 07:57:13 AM
When I google kymco part near me the places that pop up are not really that close you'd think there would be a hand full of them since I'm in between  Sacramento county  and San Joaquin county lol maybe I jus suck at looking up stuff lol
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Tromper on July 20, 2020, 04:27:15 PM
https://kymcousa.com/dealer-locator/

Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 20, 2020, 05:59:12 PM
When I google kymco part near me the places that pop up are not really that close you'd think there would be a hand full of them since I'm in between  Sacramento county  and San Joaquin county lol maybe I jus suck at looking up stuff lol
Scooter city Sacramento and Capital Yamaha Sacramento  are both Kymco dealers. Just google Kymco Sacramento
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 21, 2020, 08:12:56 PM
Scooter city Sacramento and Capital Yamaha Sacramento  are both Kymco dealers. Just google Kymco Sacramento
both those places were no help when I called  one even said what is that  a scooter  or something lol
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: souzamoto on July 22, 2020, 05:11:51 AM
both those places were no help when I called  one even said what is that  a scooter  or something lol

Capitol Yamaha is a Kymco ATV dealer only and does not sell Kymco scooters
I have a hard time believing that scooter city was no help. They’ve been selling Kymco scooters for quite a few years. If you use the dealer locator on the Kymco USA site, you will find several dealers in the Bay Area that will gladly send you a belt.
Dealers I recommend- Barber Bros(scooter city) sacto, Sweco in Sutter, R&M in Concord, Powersports in Vallejo, Rockridge in Oakland, Kelindas in Santa Cruz area, Salinas Motorcycle in Salinas (they are hit or miss), Visalia ATV & mc in Visalia, Lets ride in Bakersfield
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 26, 2020, 04:52:30 AM
So I got the belt  finally  n rod it home... it seem a lil jumping /shaky when stopping and going n takes off real slow.. almost like its wants to bog out or something...
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: scooterfan on July 26, 2020, 08:27:43 PM
So I got the belt  finally  n rod it home... it seem a lil jumping /shaky when stopping and going n takes off real slow.. almost like its wants to bog out or something...


The friend of your family probably did not check everything. Did he remove the clutch Bell to check and clean the clutch pads ?
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 26, 2020, 11:45:15 PM

The friend of your family probably did not check everything. Did he remove the clutch Bell to check and clean the clutch pads ?
i think he did  when I got there it was all off cause I had the new belt he had me help him put it back on but I know nothing about this kinda stuff
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: JJJoseph on July 27, 2020, 08:05:43 AM
Why not call a nearby Kymco dealer?
LOL! I think we've been here before: there are no "nearby Kymco dealers"!
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Iahawk on July 27, 2020, 03:03:21 PM
I think at this point any scooter shop would be able to look under your cvt cover to check / fix problems.  I'm realizing that these drive systems are almost universal (with the exception of some of the maxi scooters).

Surely you can find someone who can look at your scoot?
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Mmmck on July 28, 2020, 12:25:40 PM
First  scooter ever n I'm already regretting  buying it .......😖
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Iahawk on July 28, 2020, 02:05:59 PM
Mmmck,  yes, easy to get frustrated when you don't understand how things work or how to fix them.  I would guess most on this board had no idea how a scooter drive system worked before buying their first scooter.

Best thing to do is get educated. Watch youtube videos on how to replace the belt, variator and clutch on a scooter. watch videos on cleaning scooter carbs, changing brake pads, etc. EVERYTHING you will need to know is somewhere on youtube!

Once you have a basic understanding of how these relatively simple systems work you are in a better position to diagnose and solve your problems.

Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Neil955i on July 28, 2020, 03:27:41 PM
Sage advice Hawk!
Title: Re: Hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeelllpppp....please
Post by: Tromper on July 28, 2020, 08:59:53 PM
Honestly no reason for despair, just an opportunity for learning.
Unless you've done damage to the engine this is a drive train issue.

These drive trains are reasonably tough and fairly simple.  It's possible your friend made an innocent error in assembly..these are annoying but they happen, or something's just a bit out of whack.
Some possible causes off the top of my head...
- An improperly installed/reassembled belt replacment causing the CVT to stay further open than it should.  Basically like starting your car in second gear.
- Bad rollers.  This would cause things to not shift properly.
- Glazed clutch.  This might be clear-able by doing the bike against something solid, front brake on and rev routine (do NOT attempt this with ANYTHING vulnerable in front of ya. DO wear gear..if the bike gets away it can get way fast)

I'd order some fresh rollers if those weren't already replaced, and take it apart then reassemble carefully, probably manually de-glaze the clutch bell and pads (a little fine sandpaper or steel wool..)
Verify the pads have some meat on 'em, & reassemble paying careful mind to how it goes together.

I'd offer to help, but you're a long way from Seattle.

If there's something I can help you with remotely lemme know.  I've done that entire job on my S200, and of course my SYMs.  They're all basically the same with differences in the details.

First  scooter ever n I'm already regretting  buying it .......😖