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Title: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 16, 2020, 01:36:25 PM
Well I had to relent and purchase a washable face mask. Both Dillon's and Wallyworld will require them to enter.  The covid 19 virus is 1 micron a face mask is quote from a friend, (trying to sain minnows with a chain link fence).  I guess if it appease's everyone mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 16, 2020, 02:36:05 PM
As you are aware - wearing a mask is primarily for you to help contain your covid 19 laced droplets within your mustache - and not so much to protect you from the covid 19 droplets of others.
If your countryman is wearing a mask as well, both of you are better protected. Best? No, but better - & that seems to be too much for some (mainly N. Americans - by the figures) to deal with.

When you drive an M-1 tank you don't have to stop at Stop signs, but it is a thoughtful thing to do.....

Like that....goes the thinking.


Agreed - sad that thoughtfulness has to be mandated for some.

Stig




Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: randyo on July 16, 2020, 04:04:51 PM
I already have several balaclavas that work well, and ya look like a ninja when you go shopping
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 16, 2020, 04:29:37 PM
I already have several balaclavas that work well, and ya look like a ninja when you go shopping
Great idea!
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 16, 2020, 04:31:14 PM
My intention is to shop where they don't require masks...I refuse to participate in a charade.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 16, 2020, 04:43:23 PM
My intention is to shop where they don't require masks...I refuse to participate in a charade.
There's only two grocery stores in town so their rules. The alternative is to order online and pick it up in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: big blue on July 16, 2020, 05:14:59 PM
Wearing mine to protect you and me. Not a freedom issue it's a public health issue. ;)
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 16, 2020, 05:20:07 PM
The way I look at it I'm in the store for a short time so no big deal to wear a mask.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: TBR125 on July 16, 2020, 08:36:47 PM
No public business can legally enforce masks as anyone can say they can't wear them on medical grounds. That cannot be questioned as medical detail privacy is protected under federal law(I forget which code). I wear masks in stores simply as a courtesy and believe every individual should have the choice. I do support private business's right to setting requirements that must be met before they provide a service, however, any store that caters to the public does not always have that right under federal ruling.



Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: JJJoseph on July 16, 2020, 09:44:09 PM
There's only two grocery stores in town so their rules.


The whole thing is such a confused and clueless scam!  Where I live, NO (as in ZERO or NONE) grocery stores require masks, and we have the lowest rate of infection in North America.  The virus itself is a 1 micron size, and the masks don't stop anything (ingoing or outgoing) that's less than 10 microns. Needless to say, no motorcycle dealers require masks, either. I've run into the occasional nervous  retailer like the Apple Store that asks for a mask, just another reason to avoid Apple products.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Ernst on July 16, 2020, 09:53:49 PM
Whatever happened to Americans coming together to defend their Country?
Food for thought.

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During his inaugural speech on Jan. 20, 1961, U.S. President John F. Kennedy uttered the challenge, “And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.” Its simple meaning was to challenge society to contribute to improve the public good.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: TBR125 on July 16, 2020, 10:42:08 PM
The whole thing is such a confused and clueless scam!  Where I live, NO (as in ZERO or NONE) grocery stores require masks, and we have the lowest rate of infection in North America.  The virus itself is a 1 micron size, and the masks don't stop anything (ingoing or outgoing) that's less than 10 microns. Needless to say, no motorcycle dealers require masks, either. I've run into the occasional nervous  retailer like the Apple Store that asks for a mask, just another reason to avoid Apple products.

In regards to the effectiveness of masks, although commonly believed, no mask is intended to catch individual virus. The virus is conveyed through a media such as moisture. If you breath on a mirror with and without a mask you will see the effect. Masks cannot filter the virus but they do massively decrease the viral load and range.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Neil955i on July 17, 2020, 10:06:13 AM
See that nail?  On the head, right there TBR!

If anyone would like any further persuasion, give this demo a quick look:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6m9dckuzp4urrt/Mask%20of%20no%20mask.mov?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6m9dckuzp4urrt/Mask%20of%20no%20mask.mov?dl=0)
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: TBR125 on July 17, 2020, 11:55:35 AM
See that nail?  On the head, right there TBR!

If anyone would like any further persuasion, give this demo a quick look:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6m9dckuzp4urrt/Mask%20of%20no%20mask.mov?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6m9dckuzp4urrt/Mask%20of%20no%20mask.mov?dl=0)

Thanks. People just don't seem to get that wearing a mask is for the safety of everyone else not personal protection(unless someone coughs in your face).
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Iahawk on July 17, 2020, 12:22:05 PM
Yes...you wear a mask to protect others.  It doesn't protect the wearer...it protects others from you!

My wife bought us all masks...and one of mine is a Harley mask. I'm not a Harley guy...but it's kind of fun wearing the Harley mask.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: TBR125 on July 17, 2020, 01:50:30 PM
Fewer people than usual have asked me questions at the state park. The black neck gator with shades apparently is a bit foreboding.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 17, 2020, 02:09:52 PM
If anything good has come of this (some)  people are at least practicing better hygiene.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 17, 2020, 02:13:47 PM
Fewer people than usual have asked me questions at the state park. The black neck gator with shades apparently is a bit foreboding.
Are you a volunteer or park ranger? I thought about volunteering as a host camper.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Ernst on July 18, 2020, 01:18:45 AM
Sheeeets 
I saw on Amazon that if I can wait 2 weeks a big bundle of masks are $4.99 plus $5.00 shipping from China.
On down to my local Walgreens and the same "pack" is $39.00 plus tax.
I guess some folks are too poor to own masks. I can help just ask :)  /S
After I bought a pack I did re-budget my budget.

I'm feeling Punny...."Cough on to others as you want others to cough on to you!" Pandemicleas 3:27
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 18, 2020, 07:31:55 AM
I purchased a Mission cooling neck gaiter multifunctional face & neck cover reusable and machine washable  for $20. The disposable mask were a box of 25 for $27.   
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: klaviator on July 18, 2020, 12:46:25 PM
Alabama now requires masks in all public buildings.  I just came back from a trip to the North Carolina Mountains.  NC also requires masks.  There is no doubt that if everyone wears a mask that it will reduce the spread of diseases.  It won't stop the spread of diseases and how much it reduces the spread is subject to debate. 

I just don't see what the big deal is about wearing a mask for a short time while in a building except for those with medical issues.

BTW, claiming medical issues won't always get you in a building.  That business can still keep you out as long as they have a way of serving you outside, for example bringing out your groceries.

I will be going to a scooter rally in NC in a couple of weeks.  We expect to have 30+ people there.  Everyone will have to have a mask for going into buildings.  We will try to keep 6 foot distance and wash our hands more.  I'll have hand sanitizer on my scooter.  Non of this is that hard to do and it greatly reduces the odds of catching the virus. 

While I agree that the media is biased and incompetent, those who think that this pandemic is just a media hoax are sticking their heads in the sand.  A bunch of people on another forum I am on have lost friends and relatives to this.  It's not a hoax to them.

Tasking precautions is not rocket science or hard to do.  I wear my mask in public buildings to protect others.  I try to maintain distance and wash my hands to protect myself.  What's so hard about this???

I don't see this any different from wearing my helmet and other riding gear when I ride. 
Title: wearing a mask is common sense
Post by: boo on July 18, 2020, 02:00:35 PM
If I can keep others from getting sick or dying, wearing a mask is a small price to pay.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: boo on July 18, 2020, 02:07:02 PM
See that nail?  On the head, right there TBR!

If anyone would like any further persuasion, give this demo a quick look:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6m9dckuzp4urrt/Mask%20of%20no%20mask.mov?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6m9dckuzp4urrt/Mask%20of%20no%20mask.mov?dl=0)

Good demo Neil. Thanks.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Ernst on July 18, 2020, 11:28:35 PM
Well a 30 y/o said this before he died of Covid-19 after a great Covid-19 party. People say he did not find love that night.

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In her statements to news organizations, Dr. Appleby said the man had told his nurse that he attended a Covid party. Just before he died, she said the patient told his nurse: “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.”

 I'm not ready to die or kill anyone... Are you?
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 20, 2020, 03:43:42 PM
Finally~! face masks are required for all customers where my daughter works!
Employees have been wearing them since Kohls reopened weeks ago, but most of the customers have not.

I haven't been in a store in months - wearing out (and tipping) carry-out youngsters and delivery drivers for groceries, food, essentials and dumb stuff.  UPS, Amazon, FedEx, doordash and mail carriers are our new best friends.

Other than the empty coffee shop I frequent at sunrise (spacing decals and a masked server) when masked or helmeted....I'm home, outside walking, riding or sitting in nature.

I may drive over to Walmart and watch the All-American entertainment now that masks are required …..have coffee and a donut in my Chevy F-150.
Stig


Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Neil955i on July 20, 2020, 04:24:58 PM
Good demo Neil. Thanks.

You're welcome Boo, kinda drives the point home I think.
Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Forbes1964 on July 21, 2020, 09:23:41 AM
1. I hate seatbelts
2. I hate helmets
3. I hate masks
But:
1. I care about ME
2. I care about OTHERS
So:
I wear helmets, seatbelts, and masks


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Title: Re: Face mask
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 21, 2020, 10:45:16 AM
1. I hate seatbelts
2. I hate helmets
3. I hate masks
But:
1. I care about ME
2. I care about OTHERS
So:
I wear helmets, seatbelts, and masks


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Hopefully one day this covid crap will be a distant bad memory, helmets and seat belts are here to stay.  I've worn a motorcycle helmet since I got my first bike at 8 years old so I don't even think about it, it's automatic.  Seat belts I'm bad about not wearing them in town but always did on the highway. Click it or ticket changed that. Face mask I can handle wearing one for a few minutes while I'm in a store.

The good news is several vaccines have been proven in trials and will be available before to long.  Unfortunately there will be a segment of the population that don't beleive in vaccines.