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Title: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 13, 2020, 08:13:15 AM
Howdy everyone, new to Kymco and new to the forum. I have just bought a Kymco Super 8 125 which I'm expecting to be delivered today so will get to play with it soon  :)

I'm just enquiring for good recommendations for where to obtain spares. I have another Chinese bike so use CMPO every now and again, but for the Super 8 I'm looking for a ignition barrel. They seem to be unobtanium at present. Anyone know where I can find one or, alternatively, does anyone know if one can be fitted from a different model?

Thanks for your help, look forward to chatting with you guys  :)

Joe
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 13, 2020, 11:20:35 AM
Welcome!
See 'General Discussion',  try "buy Kymco parts here."
Stig

Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: john grinsel on July 13, 2020, 11:33:06 AM
Try your dealer!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 13, 2020, 12:15:34 PM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 13, 2020, 12:19:58 PM
Welcome to the forum and good luck with the ignition barrel!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 13, 2020, 03:06:20 PM
Welcome to the forum Kymco is a Taiwanese Scooter with some models being built in mainland China. They are considered better quality then Chinese brands.  Like another poster said I would try your local dealer first for parts. I have found my dealer is competitive on price.

By the way RF-RK is Taiwanese mfg and LA-LO is Chinese mfg. Kymco does have some scooters manufactured in China to their specs.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 14, 2020, 09:26:34 AM
Thanks fellas.

Dealer? There's not a dealer within 50 miles of me!  HAHAHA I'm gonna try to sort it myself really. The bike arrived this morning. If I can figure a way I'll upload a pic  :)

I've done a bit of digging around and can see the ignition barrel has a 5 cable connector block with two green wires, which I guess are the live circuit wires. So basically I dont see why any standard ignition barrel with a similar connector block shouldn't do the trick :)

Thanks for the pointer to the parts supplier, I shall have a look. I think the light switch is buggered too so may have to see if I can find a replacement switch gear  :)


Joe
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 14, 2020, 09:37:41 AM
Whereabouts in the world are you Joe?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 14, 2020, 12:32:33 PM
Hi mate, I'm in the UK (London)

J
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 14, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
In which case Super 8 spares should be readily available as they've been sold here for years!  Presume you've tried eBay?  If no joy there I bet there's a slew of specialist motorcycle breakers yards around the ol' metrolops?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 14, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
Thanks fellas.

Dealer? There's not a dealer within 50 miles of me!  HAHAHA


Joe

As long as you're happy with mail order that shouldn't be an issue.  Contact Kymco UK direct if you can't source elsewhere, i bet they can help... for a price!  :D
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 14, 2020, 03:19:05 PM
In which case Super 8 spares should be readily available as they've been sold here for years!  Presume you've tried eBay?  If no joy there I bet there's a slew of specialist motorcycle breakers yards around the ol' metrolops?

Cheers Neil, being a long time "strange bike" rider (Moto Guzzi) I'm used to owning bikes where there are next to no dealers nearby. So my usual recourse is to join the forum and chat to those that know the bikes inside out. Usually a great place for info and help so I naturally thought I'd have a go here first  :)

I do keep an eye on ebay but there just don't seem to any ignition barrels available for the Super 8 125 which is why I was wondering if a barrel from another model would suit.

The Super 8 125 has a 5 wire ignition switch so my guess is that any other similar should suit so I'll probably buy one to see what happens...just thought I'd ask the experts first  ;)

Joe
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 14, 2020, 03:40:31 PM
Welcome!
See 'General Discussion',  try "buy Kymco parts here."
Stig

Thanks buddy, most of those seem to be Stateside...  :)

Joe
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 15, 2020, 09:00:05 AM
Moto Guzzi's eh?  Now there's one long time itch I've yet to scratch.  When I came back to biking in the 80's I always loved the look and noise of them, but by the 90's (and to this day) I was seduced by the Hinckley triples.  That said, even a modest lotto win would see me add a Guzzi to the stable!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 16, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
Moto Guzzi's eh?  Now there's one long time itch I've yet to scratch.  When I came back to biking in the 80's I always loved the look and noise of them, but by the 90's (and to this day) I was seduced by the Hinckley triples.  That said, even a modest lotto win would see me add a Guzzi to the stable!

That's a dangerous thought! You're soul has already been sold to the dark side!  ;D ;D ;D Guzzis tend to get under your skin and stay there. There's only one way to scratch that itch!  ;D
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Post by: Neil955i on July 16, 2020, 02:03:31 PM
It’s that Italian style, you can’t beat it [emoji1360]


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Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 20, 2020, 06:26:01 AM
Yeah, and the sound too! Funny enough I never took to Ducatis but Guzzis, I've owned three Californias, a Nevada, a LeMans and a Spada. I still own a California. Great bikes  :)
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: JJJoseph on July 20, 2020, 07:25:54 PM
Thanks fellas.

Dealer? There's not a dealer within 50 miles of me!
I've done a bit of digging around and can see the ignition barrel has a 5 cable connector block with two green wires, which I guess are the live circuit wires. So basically I dont see why any standard ignition barrel with a similar connector block shouldn't do the trick :)


I'm not sure what you mean by the "Ignition barrel".  It's not a standard term, so I'm guessing you mean the CDI (igniter)?  These are NOT interchangeable, even though all the different types look the same & use the same connector.  If yours is a DC system, the AC models blow your fuses.  In some cases, Kawasaki ATV CDIs work because Kymco makes some of the Kawasaki ATVs. If it's a 125cc, a 50cc CDI doesn't work, and so on.  The point is, don't guess when swapping electronics!  The wrong ones go up in smoke!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 20, 2020, 07:47:03 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by the "Ignition barrel".  It's not a standard term, so I'm guessing you mean the CDI (igniter)?  These are NOT interchangeable, even though all the different types look the same & use the same connector.  If yours is a DC system, the AC models blow your fuses.  In some cases, Kawasaki ATV CDIs work because Kymco makes some of the Kawasaki ATVs. If it's a 125cc, a 50cc CDI doesn't work, and so on.  The point is, don't guess when swapping electronics!  The wrong ones go up in smoke!
Think you’re suffering crossed wires here. In the UK the ignition barrel is the assembly the ignition key goes into!


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Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 20, 2020, 10:50:46 PM
Think you’re suffering crossed wires here. In the UK the ignition barrel is the assembly the ignition key goes into!


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Means the same thing in the US as well...
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: JJJoseph on July 22, 2020, 07:45:50 AM
Means the same thing in the US as well...
Thanks for the explanation.  It's what I would call the "Ignition Lock Assembly", and which Kymco identifies as the "Ignition Switch Assembly".  Thanks!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Neil955i on July 22, 2020, 08:04:22 AM
Thanks for the explanation.  It's what I would call the "Ignition Lock Assembly", and which Kymco identifies as the "Ignition Switch Assembly".  Thanks!
“A rose by any name”...eh?  No problems JJ


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Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Guzzista on July 30, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
Sorry guys for d=the delay in responding. I've had so much work on recently I've not really had the time to anything with the bike. I should have explained further. Yeah, the ignition barrel is the bit where the key goes in. It was damaged by some oyk who tried to steal it and is in the "ON" position permanently. The previous owner was running the scoot and to switch it off would simply pull the connector out of the CDI.

I have since sourced an ignition barrel (lock) set from a supplier in Italy although because of covid it is taking a real long time to arrive. Once I've replaced that I can start investigating the electrical gremlins.

The main trouble appears to be with the lights. I've read that the Light Control Module is rubbish and some people simply by-pass it. I don't know at this stage whether the problem with the lights is the LCM or the switchgear. I'm guessing the former so I'll either buy a new one ore by-pass it like some owners do.

The bike rides really well. the engine is great and pulls strongly from standstill up to about 60 mph (with me on board. With the missus on board it may even nudge 70!).

I rode it to work the other day and it did something really weird, it started bucking in time with the indicators (blinkers). Once I switched off the indicators the bike ran smoothly again. I suspect the previous owner did quite a lot of buggering around with the internal organs but my guess is that the LCM is shagged.

Any hints/tips will be greatly appreciated, thank you. It seems to me that the Super 8 125 is quite rare. It doesn't even have it's own section on this forum!  This is my first foray into Kymco and, apart from the gremlins, what a cracking little scoot. I will post a pic as soon as I can. Thanks again!   :)