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Title: Leg cover?
Post by: Ernst on July 10, 2020, 04:46:58 AM
Riding in winter (California) can be hard because an hour on the freeway can lower my core temperature. Too much of that and I get sick.
I see a leg cover. Has anyone used "leg covers?"



Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Snorvey on July 10, 2020, 08:30:38 AM
Sorry, I can't offer an answer (and I'm sure someone will be along to help in due course) but....

Riding in winter (California)

Bwa-hahahahaha!

Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Iahawk on July 10, 2020, 01:30:25 PM
you don't see much of that in the US...but when you look at other parts of the world where scooter riding is much more popular you see all kinds of cold weather riding aids. Leg covers, big hand mits, etc.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 10, 2020, 01:32:14 PM
Not all of California is warm of a winter. I lived in Modesto and winter could be cold and damp with a heavy Tule fog that can cut visibility to zero.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: john grinsel on July 10, 2020, 02:44:41 PM
Best in winter=proper riding suit!!  Aerostich ( one and two piece) have worked well for me for the past 30 years.   Each suit lasts about 100,000 miles.   Worn out they still bring good money from idiots who want to look like they ride a lot.

Lap robes may make getting feet out quickly in real slippery conditions!
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Ex-KLR on July 11, 2020, 01:42:20 AM
I rode to work all winter (50 mile round trip) in Delaware one year.  Wore a snowmobile suit and down mittens.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 11, 2020, 10:02:34 PM
Sorry, I can't offer an answer (and I'm sure someone will be along to help in due course) but....

Riding in winter (California)

Bwa-hahahahaha!


+1.

Stig
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Ernst on July 12, 2020, 05:16:58 AM
I do own a 1 piece suit however true comfort on a 4 lane or in the chill of back roads farmland is still an issue.
If I were to ride from here to Idaho in winter I sure want to be comfortable hour after hour.
It looks like the Myroad has accessories! 

Muffs!
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Ernst on July 12, 2020, 05:31:47 AM
Best in winter=proper riding suit!!  Aerostich ( one and two piece) have worked well for me for the past 30 years.   Each suit lasts about 100,000 miles.   Worn out they still bring good money from idiots who want to look like they ride a lot.

Lap robes may make getting feet out quickly in real slippery conditions!
OMG They cost $1200 or more! $1400 was the one on their site.
I expect in suit heating for that price.
Well I do have a powerball ticket so we shall see.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Neil955i on July 12, 2020, 11:29:02 AM
Sorry, I can't offer an answer (and I'm sure someone will be along to help in due course) but....

Riding in winter (California)

Bwa-hahahahaha!
Speaks a jealous Scot lol. Bet the California Dreamers couldn’t survive a Scottish winter?


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Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Neil955i on July 12, 2020, 11:32:34 AM
As for the apron, they must work well as v popular among the scooter mounted couriers in all major European cities. Coupled with handlebar muffs, a cost-effective alternative to an Aerostitch suit!


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Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: TBR125 on July 12, 2020, 12:22:35 PM
Jackets are fairly simple taking off at work, but the lowers can be a bit troublesome. I prefer leather buckle on chaps to full winter pants on those sharp biting days.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: john grinsel on July 12, 2020, 01:36:53 PM
Pls tell me how chaps work in the wet??
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: TBR125 on July 12, 2020, 03:00:35 PM
On the rainy days a Coleman rain suit goes under them. I'm cheap on personal comfort such as weather impedance although I do pay whatever is necessary for proper crash protection. Aerostich suits are among the best and I would get a pair if I had a 10 grand sport bike and rode track. I just can't justify the cost for riding what everyone around here calls the "liquorcycle".

Driving a scoot in these parts is equivalent to wearing an "I'm a drunk driver" t-shirt. I see a bunch out front at the local pop-a-top pub.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: john grinsel on July 12, 2020, 05:55:53 PM
I might add---Aerostich has rain pants with SIDE ZIP for under $100----the side zip makes getting on and off easier without taking boots off----their expensive suits and most pants have this feature,too.

Lap robes were used by Portland OR police about 40 years ago, too.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: TBR125 on July 12, 2020, 06:14:46 PM
Do the zippers remain waterproof after a few uses? That has been the main failing of several pants I have tried.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: john grinsel on July 12, 2020, 07:50:50 PM
Yes in my experience.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Neil955i on July 13, 2020, 10:49:39 AM
I just can't justify the cost for riding what everyone around here calls the "liquorcycle".

Driving a scoot in these parts is equivalent to wearing an "I'm a drunk driver" t-shirt. I see a bunch out front at the local pop-a-top pub.

Do I deduce from this, that a 50cc scooter can be ridden without a licence in the US?  Hence becomes the go to mode of transport for banned drivers?  In the UK even a 50 needs a licence so it's not an option for banned drivers.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Iahawk on July 13, 2020, 01:25:26 PM
I believe the rules vary from individual state to state. Here in Iowa you don't need a car driver's license for a 50 cc scooter. 16 is the minimum age to legally drive a car but a 50cc scooter can be ridden by 14 year olds.

You still need some sort of license to ride them...back in the day we called it a moped license...

I recall reading that in California you need a full motorcycle license for a 50cc scoot.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Neil955i on July 13, 2020, 04:06:10 PM
Thanks Hawk.


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Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 13, 2020, 04:40:10 PM
I believe the rules vary from individual state to state. Here in Iowa you don't need a car driver's license for a 50 cc scooter. 16 is the minimum age to legally drive a car but a 50cc scooter can be ridden by 14 year olds.

You still need some sort of license to ride them...back in the day we called it a moped license...

I recall reading that in California you need a full motorcycle license for a 50cc scoot.
Hawk it's the same way in Kansas as Iowa. That's why 50cc is so popular. Actually 49cc under 3hp and top speed limited to 30mph. I don't believe they require insurance as well, just a moped/scooter license. 
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: TBR125 on July 13, 2020, 06:59:45 PM
Here in tn there is no required license or registration. They must be 49cc and under with a top speed of 35.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Snorvey on July 13, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
In the old, old days, buying a restricted (2 stroke) moped demanded that you invested in a set of Riffler Files and gently filed a mm or 2 from the exhaust port roof.

Then, pleased with the new 'power' band you had created, you took another mm from it. Then another. Until you had created an unridable monster where all the power lived in a 200rpm band somewhere north of the red line.
Basically, you'd wrecked it.

<sigh> Those were the days.

Right, where were we? Ah. Winter gear in California.
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<snort>
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 13, 2020, 09:06:49 PM
In the old, old days, buying a restricted (2 stroke) moped demanded that you invested in a set of Riffler Files and gently filed a mm or 2 from the exhaust port roof.

Then, pleased with the new 'power' band you had created, you took another mm from it. Then another. Until you had created an unridable monster where all the power lived in a 200rpm band somewhere north of the red line.
Basically, you'd wrecked it.

<sigh> Those were the days.

Right, where were we? Ah. Winter gear in California.
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<snort>
Hemingway of the scoots!
😊good stuff

Major T.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 13, 2020, 09:14:10 PM
Do I deduce from this, that a 50cc scooter can be ridden without a licence in the US?  Hence becomes the go to mode of transport for banned drivers?  In the UK even a 50 needs a licence so it's not an option for banned drivers.
Yep, we had a 'built' 50 LIKE rider such as that. A real screamer. ..60gps, the whole banana. ..until he crashed.
Perhaps the judge was trying to protect his hide by taking his license.
Or, more appropriately, us.
Those guys just think we're being petty by trying to get them off the roads our families drive on.
And of course,  taking their license doesn't stop them from driving.
They risk only another slap on the wrist.
Stig
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Neil955i on July 15, 2020, 07:42:31 AM
Yep, we had a 'built' 50 LIKE rider such as that. A real screamer. ..60gps, the whole banana. ..until he crashed.
Perhaps the judge was trying to protect his hide by taking his license.
Or, more appropriately, us.
Those guys just think we're being petty by trying to get them off the roads our families drive on.
And of course,  taking their license doesn't stop them from driving.
They risk only another slap on the wrist.
Stig
A problem all over Major. We have a local banned driver whom everyone knows is still driving - even caught on dashcam footage, but seemingly unless the cops catch him red-handed...

Almost has you sympathising with the vigilante mindset!


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Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 15, 2020, 10:37:54 PM
Speaks a jealous Scot lol. Bet the California Dreamers couldn’t survive a Scottish winter?


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Or a February coffee run in Ohio.
Stig
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Neil955i on July 16, 2020, 12:05:16 PM
Or a February coffee run in Ohio.
Stig
Yep, that’d run it close [emoji848]


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Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Snorvey on July 17, 2020, 12:42:13 PM
Scottish winters aren't too bad (or maybe I'm just used to them). My missus has a pal that lives in Saskatchewan....now that's hardcore wintertime.

Brrrr!
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Kansas kymco on July 17, 2020, 12:56:06 PM
My place up North gets a little cold as well , not to far from the nation's ice box International Falls. I beleive they have a record of -55F. Where my Aunt &  Uncle lived Sioux Lookout Ontario it has got as cold as -60F.

Remember a story my Aunt told me who worked at the hospital.  She had a battery heater,  oil heater and engine block heater with the car in the garage.  When she got up to go to work the car started right up but wouldn't move the  rear differential oil was so thick/ or froze the car wouldn't move. She had to call a cab. The garage towed the car to the shop where they put it inside to thaw out.

I have seen neither Canada or Ely MN in the dead of winter.

Remember stories of building the Alaska highway where they built fires under the equipment engines to warm them up in winter.

Those Northerners are some Hardie folks.
Title: Re: Leg cover?
Post by: Ernst on July 18, 2020, 01:41:29 AM
 Still if the moisture gets on the suit, gloves and boots then wind chill has an effect.
 I do like the mitts. I didn't know they sold those so mitts that protect the "knuckle-drager gloves from getting wet, well that solves that problem. Hands get so numbing cold that it is painful sometimes.
 As for need license in California the law is clear. If it has an engine (even a power skateboard)  you need a license. If it runs on the road you need Plates. It is up to the local authorities if they enforce this.
 My county ignores what they call (mopeds) under 50cc with or with out peddles. Moped = Motor + peddles. Other counties will impound without.

I have decided to get the mitts  first and see how it goes this winter on the leg covers. As I said I have a suit.