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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: john grinsel on June 01, 2020, 03:48:43 PM
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Often here I read that some people never or cannot go on Freeways----To me that is they never go any place.
A few years ago I rode US 50 from Sacramento to East Coast----50 all the way but several times had to get up on Freeway, as that was the road---bike Helix---US 50 is nice ride. Helix fine for this trip
Another time, Suzuki GS500E, coming from Ind. going to WI, decided I would go thru Chicago on regular roads and avoid FreeWay and Toll Roads---did it but huge waste of time, lots of slow going---never again.
Often, when I am trying just to get some place, I use Freeway---find 250cc scooter min. that works safely in right lane for long distances. Smaller displacements work for short distances when you run them wide open...which hurts nothing with Japanese stuff or Kymco.
Just some thoughts----I like to go places
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The main danger I would think is speed differential. Although for legal use of the freeway one must maintain 45+, When others are doing 75-80 I don't want to be slower than 60. For 200 miles the 125 Agility will do it but I avoid areas with long hills. If I had a 250 300 I would take the highway more often for as you stated, if the goal is a destination then back roads are not highly effective.
I totally understand many peoples enjoyment of slow back road riding. Or fast back road riding for that matter.
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Around here there are always county roads in excellent condition with hardly any traffic so even though it might take a little longer the ride is more pleasant. I avoid the interstate like the plague with 75 mph speed limits and people running 85 mph.
Like TBR 125 stated speed differential is extremely dangerous.
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I distinctly remember reading the statistic that one is seven times less likely to have an accident on the freeway then on surface streets. It makes sense: everyone is going the same way with no intersections and fewer distractions. My GV 250's can do an honest 72 mph so I never hesitate to use the freeways.
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I distinctly remember reading the statistic that one is seven times less likely to have an accident on the freeway then on surface streets. It makes sense: everyone is going the same way with no intersections and fewer distractions. My GV 250's can do an honest 72 mph so I never hesitate to use the freeways.
And that’s the critical point Stuo. IF your scoot can maintain 65-70 mph, then it’s feasible to use a Freeway (motorway over here) to get from A-B in a time-efficient manner. That said, I far prefer the more interesting highways and by-ways and time is not of the essence for me, so I’ll pass on the motorway when on my bike or scooter thanks.
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I distinctly remember reading the statistic that one is seven times less likely to have an accident on the freeway then on surface streets. It makes sense: everyone is going the same way with no intersections and fewer distractions. My GV 250's can do an honest 72 mph so I never hesitate to use the freeways.
Makes a difference where your located as well, My last ride was a 30 mile loop on county roads on a Sunday morning. I seen about 6 motorcyclist two groups of bicyclist and one solo and three pickups.
You probably see more traffic in a couple of blocks
As far as statistics you are more likely to have a accident in a vehicle while backing then going forward, another pointed out your more likely to have a accident within a short radias of your home. From Smith driver training corse we had to take every year for work.
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... another pointed out your more likely to have a accident within a short radias of your home. From Smith driver training corse we had to take every year for work.
I'd heard that statistic from here in the UK too, most vehicle accidents occur within a mileof home! Just Goodled it and found:
www.whatcar.com (http://www.whatcar.com) › news › most-crashes-happen-close...
13 Aug 2009 - Most car crashes happen close to home, a new study has revealed. One in three smashes occur within just one mile of the driver's home, according to the survey by insurance firm Elephant.co.uk. The poll of 3800 customers revealed a further third of accidents happened between one to five miles from home.
The morale of that story? Don't let familiarity breed contempt, just beacause you're on (very) familiar roads, don't let your guard down!
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My favorite coast-to-coast routes are: (winter) 10 and 8 from Florida to San Diego, and (summer) 90 & 80 from Boston to San Francisco.
On foot, with a backpack, guitar and a thumb.
Best way to see this country.
Major Tom
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My favorite coast-to-coast routes are: (winter) 10 and 8 from Florida to San Diego, and (summer) 90 & 80 from Boston to San Francisco.
On foot, with a backpack, guitar and a thumb.
Best way to see this country.
Major Tom
Stig my favorite Road is highway 50 it's nick name is (the loneliest road in America) although I turn off in Ely Nevada onto hwy 6 going through Tonopah to hwy 120 going through Yosemite down to Modesto CA. Utah is very senic on this route along with 50/70 through the canyons of Colorado.
I've taken hwy I-80 and I-40 several times but it reminds me of a old Road Runner carton where the senery keeps repeating itself over and over with lots of traffic thrown in.
Highway 1 along the coast of California is a neat drive as well.
Stig when in CA did you go through Hurst castle?
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Highway 1 along the coast of California is a neat drive as well.
Did that about 25 years ago on a full dress Harley Electra Glide. The only way to do the PCH!
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Did that about 25 years ago on a full dress Harley Electra Glide. The only way to do the PCH!
I would think it would be a blast on your 300I as well with the low center of gravity and all the curves and relatively low speeds.
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You're not wrong! What I should have said was 2 wheels is the way to do that road as a car can't do it justice. The sights, the smells; it's just a blast!
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Wonder if anyone has done what's left of route 66 on a scooter?
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Wonder if anyone has done what's left of route 66 on a scooter?
Now there's a thought... I've heard it said that huge chunks of 66 are now missing as converted into Interstates or highways. Is that the case? Seem to recall sad stories of all the small businesses (motels, stores, garages etc., that were left high and dry as a result of the missing passing trade.
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Route 66 was removed from the national highway register as its entirety had been replaced by interstate highway sections by 1985. I think there are some historic marked segments though.
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There are several web sites that profile what's left of 66. Like was said earlier the road has been decommissioned but several sections that go through goast towns remain. My favorite web site profiled the road and was interactive. It told you as you scrolled through each section the history of the towns it passed through complete with pictures. They recommended you bypass the section through St Louis as being too dangerous. If I can find it will post the info for what it's called been a few years.
Remembered one story about a cocktail club that had a sign out front with a neon cocktail, when the cherry was lit in the cocktail the ladies were available for (entertainment).
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I beleive this is it but be warned you can spend a lot of time reading the information. Www.route66roadtrip.com (http://Www.route66roadtrip.com)
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Route 66 was removed from the national highway register as its entirety had been replaced by interstate highway sections by 1985. I think there are some historical marked segments though.
According to the Web site How much of route 66 is drivable they state 85%. Most of route 40 was built as new road bypassing small towns.
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The Lincoln highway (now hwy 30) predates route 66. The section through Kansas had all the telephone poles painted white to mark the way according to historical data.
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I will refrain from quoting Wikipedia in the future.
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I will refrain from quoting Wikipedia in the future.
I have found Wikipedia to be useful and usually correct. I know some section are dirt road now and others in very poor conditions. I have not drove it so I have to take the word of the Internet and we all know how reliable that can be. I know a lot of states embrace route 66 for the tourism money it brings in.
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I remember 45 years ago, taking my CB125S on I-89 in VT & NH for about 50 miles, I was lucky to maintain 40 going up some of the hills, but traffic was different. Big trucks weren't 1000 hp, so they were going slow up the hills too. and it was also during the national 55mph days, only thing that went fast were grayhound busses
I would never, ever consider that same ride today, on my K-pipe, for all practical purposes, an identical bike
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I just concluded a three part series on driving your scooter on the highway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quuVLLwNXQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quuVLLwNXQ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgsjUSG5gN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgsjUSG5gN0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14xK8J6GBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14xK8J6GBA)