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Title: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 02, 2020, 01:03:45 PM
Getting a scooter after not having one for the past 4-5 years.  My first scooter was a Kymco Like 200i, and I've been getting the urge to ride again.  Found this on my local CL with 3200 miles on it.  Guy wanted $2300, went there and negotiated him down to $2100.  It's a 2013 with 3,200 miles on it.  He got it in October but he has long legs and its too cramped for him.   Only thing wrong with it is it probably needs a new battery soon, he's got it on a trickle charger for some reason.  Also, the under seat storage compartment doesn't lock, he disabled the lock because he couldn't get the unlocked warning light to go off on the dash. 

Any tips or things I should look out for?  The first owner didn't ride it a lot but he put I think he said like 500 miles on it since he got it in October.  But being fuel injected I imagine the sitting isn't a huge deal.  It's got only 500 miles on the current tires and oil.

Couldn't get to the bank for the cash yesterday so I have to wait to get it Tuesday when our schedules align. 

Being in Florida this is a good deal from what I've seen because warm weather = year round riding = higher resell prices.

Also can I get a link with a good recommendation for a battery? Gonna get one as soon as I get the bike.  Any other maintenance I should look out for at this mileage?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 02, 2020, 02:09:04 PM
3200 miles is not even "broken in" yet! Battery: Yuasa or Chrome. Lube: Drain and refill rear gearbox. Inspect: Make sure CVT does not have unwanted residents.
The seat latch and tub light up to you. Personally, I added an LED light near the top of the tub because the light at the bottom was useless. Also aligned the seat so it would latch without binding.
Have you ridden this thing yet? Does it even run?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 02, 2020, 02:12:37 PM
Took it on a test ride.  Started on the 2nd push but I think that's because I just didn't give it enough juice the first one.  Only took it up to 40 because I went on back streets but it was a blast to ride.  Sounded good to me didn't sputter or anything.

Also it has a strapped on seat pad which gives an extra inch or so of height and cushion which was the current riders solution to the cramped issue but he's taller than me by one inch and is more of a legs guy, I have a shorter femur than most for my height so I didn't mind the leg space. 

What about something like this for the battery?
https://www.cyclegear.com/parts/fire-power-factory-activated-battery-ct12a-bs (https://www.cyclegear.com/parts/fire-power-factory-activated-battery-ct12a-bs)
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 02, 2020, 03:00:21 PM
Also what fuel should I use?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Neil955i on February 02, 2020, 05:19:47 PM
Also what fuel should I use?

Welcome to the forum!

Battery - I'm with Karl here, something like Yuasa - I swear by them.  As for fuel, unleaded is fine, maybe go for a premium unleaded (equivalent to 91 octane premium in the United States) every third tank or so?

Have a great day on Tuesday!
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 02, 2020, 05:34:09 PM
Welcome to the forum!

Battery - I'm with Karl here, something like Yuasa - I swear by them.  As for fuel, unleaded is fine, maybe go for a premium unleaded (equivalent to 91 octane premium in the United States) every third tank or so?

Have a great day on Tuesday!

Thanks.  Might take it for a quick ride before I go to the DMV the next morning.  I'm concerned a bit about him having it on the trickle charger if its an issue with maybe the battery not being charged like I'd have to swap out the regulator.  Read that was an issue someone had with their DT.  I'm hoping he's doing it for maintenance of the battery.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: rdhood on February 02, 2020, 06:02:16 PM
Good deal on the DT.  First, look at your tires.  If they are from 2012/2013, then you might consider a change.   Maybe the same thing for the CVT belt.. it is probably about 6 years old now.  do all the typical stuff: oil change, gear oil change. Check the plug and airbox... 3k miles is not a lot.   

I think the seat cable thing is a typical failure on this bike.   On my bike, the cable broke. So  the second  owner took the right side rung off, and left the left side rung but attached a cable to it which he snaked out under the plastic on the left hand side.  I pull that cable to pop the seat.  I actually purchased a new cable set, but I am not sure I even want to fool with it.

I have a seat pad thread somewhere in here...   I added about 4" of legroom with it, and have ridden it for 750 miles now. 
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 02, 2020, 06:27:18 PM
Any videos doing the cable fix?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: rdhood on February 02, 2020, 06:36:37 PM
No videos.  When I pull my tub out in a couple of weeks to add a line to the battery, I'll take a pic of whatever they did.  Basically, though, it is wire hanger that has been hooked into that left side release to manually release it.  Right side disabled by taking the rung off of the seat.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 02, 2020, 06:40:57 PM
No videos.  When I pull my tub out in a couple of weeks to add a line to the battery, I'll take a pic of whatever they did.  Basically, though, it is wire hanger that has been hooked into that left side release to manually release it.  Right side disabled by taking the rung off of the seat.

Any way to fix it to where it can unlock with the key?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 02, 2020, 08:54:11 PM
Took it on a test ride.  Started on the 2nd push but I think that's because I just didn't give it enough juice the first one.  Only took it up to 40 because I went on back streets but it was a blast to ride.  Sounded good to me didn't sputter or anything.

Also it has a strapped on seat pad which gives an extra inch or so of height and cushion which was the current riders solution to the cramped issue but he's taller than me by one inch and is more of a legs guy, I have a shorter femur than most for my height so I didn't mind the leg space. 

What about something like this for the battery?
https://www.cyclegear.com/parts/fire-power-factory-activated-battery-ct12a-bs (https://www.cyclegear.com/parts/fire-power-factory-activated-battery-ct12a-bs)
I am too cheap to buy a Yuasa but it is about the best available. The Chrome brand is about 40 bucks US, FREE shipping and so far has worked well for me for two years.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 03, 2020, 12:07:45 AM
I am too cheap to buy a Yuasa but it is about the best available. The Chrome brand is about 40 bucks US, FREE shipping and so far has worked well for me for two years.

Looks like the chrome come pre sealed so I don't need to add the acid. Just ordered one.

Got home with my bike managed to time the purchase for tonight with some fancy money work.

Awesome bike.  I gotta touch up on my tight low speed turns (under 5mph) going from my Like to this but other than that its amazing.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 03, 2020, 02:06:01 AM
I am overly prejudiced about this model! My previous was a Yager 200i and I thought that was great but the 300i does EVERYTHING easier, smoother and quieter.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Neil955i on February 03, 2020, 10:20:36 AM
I am overly prejudiced about this model! My previous was a Yager 200i and I thought that was great but the 300i does EVERYTHING easier, smoother and quieter.

Nothing wrong with that sort of prejudice Karl!  If you enjoy a product, stick with it.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 03, 2020, 11:38:44 AM
Compared to my like 200i this thing has some wicked acceleration. Didn't go wide open at all but gave it a little gas on the home stretch and it was definitely enough to impress me and my ride there who was following me home.

Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on February 03, 2020, 12:18:59 PM
Compared to my like 200i this thing has some wicked acceleration. Didn't go wide open at all but gave it a little gas on the home stretch and it was definitely enough to impress me and my ride there who was following me home.


The LIKE200i is a great scooter - but a Rocket it ain't.
Like me-self, it starts running out of breath after 55😊

Stig
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 03, 2020, 12:37:52 PM
I was 50 pounds heavier back then too probably makes a bit of a difference.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Neil955i on February 03, 2020, 01:30:46 PM
Compared to my like 200i this thing has some wicked acceleration. Didn't go wide open at all but gave it a little gas on the home stretch and it was definitely enough to impress me and my ride there who was following me home.

I have the XT300i (since last September) so basically the same engine and like you Mickelous, I was favourably impressed with the acceleration after my Honda PCX125.  The handling was also far better and I'm really looking forward to Spring when it will get to stretch its legs on some longer runs!

Enjoy your DT and make sure to post us some pictures.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 03, 2020, 02:28:51 PM
I have the XT300i (since last September) so basically the same engine and like you Mickelous, I was favourably impressed with the acceleration after my Honda PCX125.  The handling was also far better and I'm really looking forward to Spring when it will get to stretch its legs on some longer runs!

Enjoy your DT and make sure to post us some pictures.

Warm enough here in the afternoon for a comfortable ride.  Riding last night was a bit chilly but I'm weather spoiled in florida anything under 65 is freezing.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Neil955i on February 03, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
Wet today, but hoping for a dry day tomorrow and a quick blast out.


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Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 04, 2020, 12:32:53 PM
Went to the DMV to register at 4:30 yesterday and they closed early "due to volume".  Wasn't meant to be.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 04, 2020, 02:02:23 PM
Went to the DMV to register at 4:30 yesterday and they closed early "due to volume".  Wasn't meant to be.
Where, on earth, is THIS?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 04, 2020, 02:09:35 PM
Here we are got a pic uploaded. A thing of beauty.

https://imgur.com/a/Hg85b5R
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Neil955i on February 04, 2020, 03:39:48 PM
Here we are got a pic uploaded. A thing of beauty.

https://imgur.com/a/Hg85b5R

Looks great Mickelous!  Like the Givi screen too.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 04, 2020, 04:38:21 PM
Looks great Mickelous!  Like the Givi screen too.

Is that aftermarket? Nice.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on February 04, 2020, 06:56:21 PM
Very nice! I may have to investigate that windscreen when the OEM screen gets gnarly on mine!
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Neil955i on February 05, 2020, 08:17:28 AM
Is that aftermarket? Nice.

Yep, it will be aftermarket. Probably added to reduce wind buffeting?


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Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 05, 2020, 10:36:14 PM
So I didn't have the battery "tended" for about a day or so and it was having a hard time starting after work.  Regulator or bad battery?  Got a new one coming in.  Is the regular a cheap part and how hard is it to replace?
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: mousejunks on February 06, 2020, 03:30:54 AM
The regulator isn't long-lasting by design but luckily it's easy to replace. After removing the seat bucket, the reg is only held on by two nuts on the right hand side of the frame.
Kymco knew about this so they used a new reg design in the DT350i.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 06, 2020, 12:42:43 PM
The regulator isn't long-lasting by design but luckily it's easy to replace. After removing the seat bucket, the reg is only held on by two nuts on the right hand side of the frame.
Kymco knew about this so they used a new reg design in the DT350i.

Is there a picture somewhere on the forums? I'm a picture kind of guy 😂
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: Mickelous on February 06, 2020, 12:47:09 PM
Is this the part? Found on partsoutlaw.

REG RECT COMP **(0) C.2001

Also it looks like there's two different versions of the dt300i is the regulator the same on both idk which model I have.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: mousejunks on February 06, 2020, 06:04:43 PM
It's either ABS or non-ABS, the regulator is the same.
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: stuo on March 12, 2020, 09:48:17 PM
The right side seat latch has the dash light and under seat light switch so if remove a seat latch bracket (advised) take off the left side.

You got a good deal!
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: stuo on March 13, 2020, 11:39:15 PM
Another possible glitch with the DT: brake switches burning out! You find out by not being able to start the bike, or you can start it with only one brake, the other side being burned out. Apparently the brake switches can't handle the current from the incandescent brake bulb and eventually arc themselves bad. An easy preventive fix is to replace the brake bulb with an LED before the switches go bad. An LED draws 1/5th the current of an incandescent bulb. 
Title: Re: Getting a used 2013 DT300i
Post by: rdhood on March 16, 2020, 03:25:29 PM
The right side seat latch has the dash light and under seat light switch so if remove a seat latch bracket (advised) take off the left side.

THIS.  Two latches virtually guarantees that... sooner or later.. you will be locked out of your seat.  In my DT,  the  cable was busted so the PO took a coat hanger and hooked the left side lock and brought it down the left hand side. It works great. 

I have done some experimenting on those latches.   It only takes the  slightest pull to release the lock... and I mean slight!  What that means is that you can do BOTH... run a cable to the release AND a stiff emergency release down the left side and tie off in front of the kickstand.  I have a new cable and the next time I have the front fairing off I am going to install it to the left side lock (ignore the right), and leave the current wired release in case the cable ever fails.