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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: SemperVee on January 21, 2020, 08:07:22 PM
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I have been looking for a match set for my i300 and see Michelin for sale but came across these. I have used Shinko on my Suzuki DL1000 Vstrom without issue. They just don't last as long as some brands. I got 7000 miles from my set. If anyone want to know here they are from American Moto FYI . Has anyone used Shinko for their Scooter?
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I have used them on my Kawasaki KLR 650. Good motorcycle tires.
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I think they were Yokohama before.
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I use those on my big burger.
On that bike...yours may be different, I run the pressure a bit higher than the OEM tires.
Life - close to OEM, so hard to say.
Handling. Different from OEM since the OEM is radial, & these are not.
Grip. OK, a bit better when new, a bit worse as they approach end of life. The front I ran at oem pressure had some cupping, others on burgers reported the same, but a bit more pressure helps/obviates that (On the 650, can't speak to your specific application).
Cost vs. OEM. about 1/2 - 1/3rd. That's why I run 'em. They're adequate and don't break the bank.
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Thanks all for the input. For the limited miles the S/O may be riding in the beginning I think they are a good value. Next set possible Michelin or car tire rear Darkside...:^)
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I put a shinko front on the DT and really like it. Enough so, in fact, that when I won a gift certificate in a partzilla giveaway just a couple weeks ago, I bought the back to go with it. The current back is at the edge of aging out (about 5 years) and I am going to swap it when I have my other scooter all sorted out (a revived Honda Reflex). I have to keep at least one on the road!
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I have been looking for a match set for my i300 and see Michelin for sale but came across these. I have used Shinko on my Suzuki DL1000 Vstrom without issue. They just don't last as long as some brands. I got 7000 miles from my set. If anyone want to know here they are from American Moto FYI . Has anyone used Shinko for their Scooter?
These 2 tires do not seem to "match" ?
Look like 2 different treads with 2 different handling characteristics?
Like, from the same Shinko family - but not from the same bedroom.
As in a City Grip on the front and a Power Pure on the other end - not recommended.
Or, is it just me?
Stig
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You're overthinking it. Road tread patterns are for funneling water in adverse conditions. That's all.
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You're overthinking it. Road tread patterns are for funneling water in adverse conditions. That's all.
I just know what I've read - about mixing tires which were designed to operate as a pair for street use.
https://youtu.be/mNx9nIdylLU?t=101
Stig
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Tires are made to do a job. To some extent, all of them work at normal speeds under normal conditions. That's why my DT has done fine for the last 500 miles on one old tire and one new tire. Unless you buy two new tires every time you change either one, your tires will nearly always be "unmatched ". I wont even go into the dark side, but it just further shows my point. The video was fluff. They made one good point: stick with the same compound (50/50 90/10). BTW, if you read car tire manufacturer's specifications, they also tell you you should change all your tires when one goes and extol the dangers of a different tire, but I've been driving for about 45 years now and I can tell you that it's bunk. You are naturally going to replace tires at different times and you will never have a match set unless you replace them both at the same time
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Tires are made to do a job. To some extent, all of them work at normal speeds under normal conditions. That's why my DT has done fine for the last 500 miles on one old tire and one new tire. Unless you buy two new tires every time you change either one, your tires will nearly always be "unmatched ". I wont even go into the dark side, but it just further shows my point. The video was fluff. They made one good point: stick with the same compound (50/50 90/10). BTW, if you read car tire manufacturer's specifications, they also tell you you should change all your tires when one goes and extol the dangers of a different tire, but I've been driving for about 45 years now and I can tell you that it's bunk. You are naturally going to replace tires at different times and you will never have a match set unless you replace them both at the same time
True. A tyre “match” never lasts for the full duration of the tyre’s lifespan. Once the tyres start getting some wear the wear at the rear wheel is almost always different from the wear at the front.
It’s all in the mind, riding skills are far more important than tyre matches.
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True. A tyre “match” never lasts for the full duration of the tyre’s lifespan. Once the tyres start getting some wear the wear at the rear wheel is almost always different from the wear at the front.
It’s all in the mind, riding skills are far more important than tyre matches.
Tru that... I have even run a bias ply in the rear of my touring MC and a radial in the front. Some manufacturers like Indian did that OEM
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Also, that video mentions but does not elaborate on (paraphrasing) "tires designed by the manufacturer to go/work together". Here is my beef: Since a back tire wears twice as fast as a front, then to make that claim you could only guarantee wearout of the first front tire. I.E. lets say the manufacturer designed the both the front and back to work together through wearout of the back. It means they EXPECT you to change tires at the same time to get the best performance out of their tires
Now, that's fine if that is a requirement to get the "best" performance at highest rated speed, etc.
I don't think ANY manufacturer, though, claims that their tire (that is meant for US roadways) will only work with another of their tires and both must be changed at the same time.
And, if manufactures thought that this was truly important, why would individual motorcycle tires ever be sold?
It's NOT so important. Anything that is the right size, right compound, right speed/weight/etc rating will work fine. Any major brand will work fine Some may wear out faster than others but none are going to be outright dangerous.
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We all know some tires are better in the wet, possibly due to compounds &/or number of rain sipes. Regardless, if I need to swerve, or suddenly find that I'm carrying too much speed into a curve, dry or wet!, I want my tires to act as a matched unit - as intended by the manufacturer, with no surprises.
RevZilla: , "differences in tire handling and performance can cause an otherwise well-behaved motorcycle to act in an unpredictable, unsafe manner. "
Scooter tire treads, front to rear, can look very different - (as in City Grips from Michelin) You can buy one or the other.....but they are designed to be used with each other.
True, you're not going to die just because you mixed tires, but...
RevZilla knows a thing or two about tires:
"Tire manufacturers engineered their tires to work with a matched partner. You paid for all that engineering, so why not use it?"
Yes. Why not?
Stig