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Title: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on December 31, 2019, 11:02:52 PM
Both scoots are easy to DIY service. I would not own either of them if they weren't!

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12 months of riding my 2012 LIKE200iLX:
@ $15 +/- for > 3 oil changes, one gear oil change, one new airfilter, one valve adjustment.
One flat tire by screw in rear Michelin P. Pure - repaired at home with plug kit.
Averaging @ 70mpg with Shell Super.

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 12 months riding my 2018 Piaggio Liberty150i:
@ $25 for > One valve adjustment, 2 oil changes, oil filter change, one gear oil change, one new airfilter, fitted longer puke tube from a Kymco.
One flat tire, screw front Maxxis, repaired road-side with plug kit & electric pump.
Averaging @ 97mpg with Shell Super.

Neither scooter had a crash, nor a part failure. Other than flat tires - all servicing was preventative rather than "fixing" something.
In other words, both EFI scooters performed flawlessly again this year. Neither tire "Mushroom plug" is leaking.
Stig
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: leomagnus on January 01, 2020, 03:50:08 PM
Stig,

Very nice, why does the Like 200i seem to get lower mpg? I was getting 60-70 mpg on my 400i

Dean
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 01, 2020, 07:12:42 PM
Stig,

Very nice, why does the Like 200i seem to get lower mpg? I was getting 60-70 mpg on my 400i

Dean
IDK, 10 yr old technology in the LIKE...?
Also, geared up for winter riding - my LIKE thinks it is carrying two average Asians. Maybe, 2.5.
TBH, it is so much fun, haven't checked mileage in several years.

Stig
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: de dee on January 02, 2020, 06:18:45 AM
when I had the flu last year , Dec.  5 th.   I lost 20 Lb.s down to 200 now slim like 50 years ago, 
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: Viper254 on January 02, 2020, 08:18:28 AM
I also found the MPG on the Like200 a bit naff for the capacity. I got about 65mpg from mine most of the time!
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 02, 2020, 02:04:15 PM
I also found the MPG on the Like200 a bit naff for the capacity. I got about 65mpg from mine most of the time!
That consumption rate may partially explain the quick starts and strong idle which I always get with the LIKE200i?
I did wonder if it was that Yamaha motorcycle fuel pump I installed years ago....pushing too much Shell Super in. But doubt the system would permit over-fueling.
Whatever. ...the scoot sonsumes so little in service and parts, I don't mind if it drinks like my Aunt K.
Stig
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: scooterfan on January 02, 2020, 07:50:09 PM
That consumption rate may partially explain the quick starts and strong idle which I always get with the LIKE200i?
I did wonder if it was that Yamaha motorcycle fuel pump I installed years ago....pushing too much Shell Super in. But doubt the system would permit over-fueling.
Whatever. ...the scoot sonsumes so little in service and parts, I don't mind if it drinks like my Aunt K.
Stig

I think a good look at the color of the spark plug should tell whether the engine is getting too much fuel or not.

If the color looks right, maybe the same size variator, clutch pulley, and gear ratio get used on smaller scooters as well ?

This fuel consumption figures seem to be very high for a fuel injected model. On average I get at least twice as much distance (anything between 35 to 37 km per liter) on my 125 carb model.
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 02, 2020, 11:50:45 PM
I think a good look at the color of the spark plug should tell whether the engine is getting too much fuel or not.

If the color looks right, maybe the same size variator, clutch pulley, and gear ratio get used on smaller scooters as well ?

This fuel consumption figures seem to be very high for a fuel injected model. On average I get at least twice as much distance (anything between 35 to 37 km per liter) on my 125 carb model.

You'd have to convert your figures to mpg for them to make sense to me.
You seem to be more concerned by my mileage than am I.
This scoot has been getting this mileage from Day One.
Love this perfect running scooter - just fuel it and ride it, service per the printed schedule because I want to - not because it ever seems to need it.
Stig
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: scooterfan on January 03, 2020, 06:50:21 AM
You'd have to convert your figures to mpg for them to make sense to me.
You seem to be more concerned by my mileage than am I.
This scoot has been getting this mileage from Day One.
Love this perfect running scooter - just fuel it and ride it, service per the printed schedule because I want to - not because it ever seems to need it.
Stig

Yes, I was more conserned than you because I started thinking of getting one of these models in future.
Thanks for commenting - I made calculations again and realized my previous calculations were incorrect.

1 US gallon = 3,785 liters.
65 miles = 104,58 km  (I used 65 miles per gallon)

104,58 km divided by 3,785 liters = 27,63 km per liter (more or less on your scooter).
 
As indicated I get between 35 to 37 km/Liter on my scooter. The fuel tank is quite small and I use the scooter every day. The tank is too small to my liking and needs to be re-filled too often.
My incorrect calculations on your scooter just made me think regular fuel fill-ups would frustrate the hell out of me - therefore my comments.

Anyway, thanks for commenting. The figures do not look that bad. I just need to find out about  fuel tank capacity.

Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 03, 2020, 01:03:48 PM
Yes, I was more conserned than you because I started thinking of getting one of these models in future.
Thanks for commenting - I made calculations again and realized my previous calculations were incorrect.

1 US gallon = 3,785 liters.
65 miles = 104,58 km  (I used 65 miles per gallon)

104,58 km divided by 3,785 liters = 27,63 km per liter (more or less on your scooter).
 
As indicated I get between 35 to 37 km/Liter on my scooter. The fuel tank is quite small and I use the scooter every day. The tank is too small to my liking and needs to be re-filled too often.
My incorrect calculations on your scooter just made me think regular fuel fill-ups would frustrate the hell out of me - therefore my comments.

Anyway, thanks for commenting. The figures do not look that bad. I just need to find out about  fuel tank capacity.


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If you'd like to read more about the Kymco LIKE200i - here is a good review, with specs.
I used this review on the LIKE, and their review on the  Piaggio Liberty150i, to help me decide to buy both scooters.
I usually fill up each day or every other day when I ride the LIKE. Doesn't bother me. I keep a can of Shell V-Power NiTRO+ Premium Gasoline 😊 at home.

http://www.justgottascoot.com/like200.htm (http://www.justgottascoot.com/like200.htm)

Stig
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: monkeybongos on January 03, 2020, 01:08:33 PM
A 5 gallon jerry can makes trips to the gas station less frequent.
Hearing about the Like's mpg makes me glad I ended up w a Lance Cali Classic.
It consistently gets 100 mpg (Shell 93), even though it's rated at 89mph.
Title: Re: recapping my 2019 scooter season
Post by: scooterfan on January 04, 2020, 05:10:35 AM
Thanks for the link!

http://www.justgottascoot.com/like200.htm (http://www.justgottascoot.com/like200.htm)