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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: Aaronk on September 20, 2010, 09:11:38 PM
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Had a go at it couldn't find the wire mine is similar to this box
http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=2839.0 (http://kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=2839.0)
Done same thing but can't find it, am I not cutting deep enough? It's a 4Stroke 2010, 1100 KM
I'll get some pictures tomorrow.
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The 2009 people 2t did not have it,had to replace with the cobra cdi,not sure about the 4t. Might be the same
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Damn, I'll get some pictures hold up, It's a tacky job.
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This is the one I replaced it with
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..what are te wire color / combinations on the cdi connector??
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Got these pictures
http://i55.tinypic.com/260plpg.jpg (http://i55.tinypic.com/260plpg.jpg)
http://i52.tinypic.com/1z1bp6a.jpg (http://i52.tinypic.com/1z1bp6a.jpg)
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Yep going to need the wire color and setting to help.
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Setting?
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wires
http://i52.tinypic.com/2uyhjzs.jpg (http://i52.tinypic.com/2uyhjzs.jpg)
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It is pinned different than the 2t I can't help you there. Some of the 4t guys know a bit more about it than i do.
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K cheers i'll wait
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..that cdi has the same numbers as mine...and the wiring is the same..
..that's the cdi that you need to cut...
..you may not have cut quite deep enough just yet..
..however, i don't know of a 2010 that has been de-restricted yet...
..i heard a rumor that they might have moved the wire...
..ya'll correct me if i'm wrong..
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...this is what mine now looks like...
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Ha! they did on the 2009 2t :'(
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Guess I'd need to buy different CDI box then?
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..i know of one 2009 a50 that did not have the wire...
..think there was another 2010 that had to replace, other than cut...
..that's all i recall...
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This ok to fill it in?
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9254438&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=eproxy&fh_eds=%DF&fh_refview=search&ts=1285017279542&isSearch=true (http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9254438&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=eproxy&fh_eds=%DF&fh_refview=search&ts=1285017279542&isSearch=true)
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..there is the wire...
..click on the pic for larger...
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..it'll be okay without filling it in...but yeah...
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..it's kinda hard to tell from that pic, but you may need to go a lil deeper..
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...closer in, toward the bottom...
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do i cut it where yours is cut more on the right?
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..maybe deeper, toward the bottom...
..the wire should run all the way across...
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..there's nothing in that area you can hurt...
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oh right i'll give it a go tomorrow cheers
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..it COULD BE...
..that the wire moved a bit when that epoxy was filled in over the circuit board assembly...
..i mean, that's all this thing is...a circuit board with various components sitting in a plastic tub, filled in with epoxy, that hardened after it was filled...
..that wire would be free to move around a bit, i would think, during assembly....
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I haven't used any eproxy yet, oh right nvm i know what you mean
so the wire goes round inside the plastic case and it don't matter where i cut it?
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...shouldn't matter...mines ground down all across...
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lol ok i'll give it a go
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...kinda looks like, from you pic, that y' just aint got there yet...
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..i forgot to tell you.....
..Welcome to th' Forum!!..
;D
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I found the copper wire, cut through it, this right?
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..YES!!..
..WOO-HOOO!!..
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nice one ill give it a testy
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..lol..see y' in an hour or two..(if it worked..lol)...
;D :D ;D
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Yep works fine, hit 37-38 on speedo so around 35, not my bike it's my girlfriends so no insurance so quick test ride, mine hits 50-55 and goes to slow lol
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..well, 38 is good...
..have you derestricted the variator yet??
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Nope, not yet haven't got the tools or anything what do I need? What else apart from eproxy can i use to fill the cdi box
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..you CAN leave it as is...
..ANY kind of silicone, gasket-maker or similar type substance will work...
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Oh right cheers, what do I need to do the variator?
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..the restricted drive boss has a shoulder that dis-allows the two pulley halves of the variator to come completely together..thus limiting how high your drive belt can ride...
..you need to either replace the boss, or machine off the shoulder...
..i think there is a few mm difference in it's length, when de-restricted as well...
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G'day wordslinger, you have mentioned this before, about a few mm shorter when machining the drive boss, that will also bring the two halves closer together, more effective. Mine was already done before I got it. Obviously you want the drive face up to the end of the crankshaft, how much does the stock drive boss overhang the shaft? I hope I have worded that ok.
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..i think the determining factor there is ..y' gotta make sure that the drive face spline, and the shaft's spline stay.......splined....
;D
..if there are a few mm of tolerance there..(every scoot is diffeerent),
..why not take advantage of it??
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..a cpl of milimeters makes a BIG difference in cvt tuning...
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..a cpl of milimeters makes a BIG difference in cvt tuning...
YEP, sure does.
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when you talk of a few mm less is this off the length of the drive boss mines 20mm od 14mm id 38mm length,can this be shaved a lil for a bit more performance?.See slinger i really got the tuning bug now :D
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..it's a toss-up..i would think that if you were running a gates 729 belt, yeah, you could shave a mm or 2 off that 38....
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i presume a 729 is slightly less in width than the standard belt then?
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...little longer than oem...
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is there a big differents from the stock cdi and the raceing cdi is it better to get the raceing one.
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I don't know about the 4 stroke, but with my 2 stroke I bought the TZR-50 racing cdi and I have not noticed any improvement in performance. BUT, it does start a lot easier which is a big plus for me. maybe my stock cdi was on it's way out.
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word.....Ahhh i get you now,because the belt is longer it will ride higher thus giving a lil more top speed,so for the belt to do its funky thang you shave a lil of the boss to compensate for extra belt length.i am right arnt i ? ;D
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lol...omfg wants his scoot to do the funky thang!
You gonna keep modding 'til it does, right? :D
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lol...omfg wants his scoot to do the funky thang!
You gonna keep modding 'til it does, right? :D
hell yeah!!,ill be on the back wheel passing slinger shortly lol ;D ps for legal reasons no slingers were harmed during this post ;) love ya man!!
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word.....Ahhh i get you now,because the belt is longer it will ride higher thus giving a lil more top speed,so for the belt to do its funky thang you shave a lil of the boss to compensate for extra belt length.i am right arnt i ? ;D
my scoot came with a extra boss already shaved down and a bigger jet just had to cut the cdi box.
I was told buy a scoot buddy that if I was to get a wider belt that well help also but im not to sure about that one.
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ps for legal reasons no slingers were harmed during this post love ya man!!
...yuo're frikin cracking me up dude!!!!
...lmao........
...HOWEVER!!...a longer belt does give you a lil more top end speed, but will require further cvt tuning to keep your take-off and mid range performance..
..itsa delicate balance, sometimes difficult to achieve...
..again, i've never shaved any off the length of a drive boss, and it's not necessary to do so to reap the benefits of the longer 729-17.7-28 belt...(Gates PowerLink)
;D
..still chuckling...
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...yuo're frikin cracking me up dude!!!!
...lmao........I do try ;D.When you say cvt tuning were talking like springs n things arent we with different torque settings and that.Thats something i dont want to get into to be honest bud.So thats were i gonna do 1 of 2 things....1 a full 125 engine transplant shhhhh ;) (single sided model ;D).2 buy a Hayabusa.Loving that blown air induction dude.
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...all cvts must be tuned for optimum performance....
..unless you're happy with what you have...
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Im never happy always want more speed :)