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General => Race Talk => Topic started by: idefendm on September 18, 2010, 04:32:27 AM
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Alan Spears, Scootermeister
Carl Hancock, Vice-President ~ Operations
Kathleen Hilz, Event Executive
Michael E. Turner, Esq., Chief Counsel
Motor-Scooter International Land-Speed Federation
525 "B" Street, Suite 1500
San Diego, CA 92101
(619) 852-6985
MSILSF is a Proud Member: Vespa Clubs of the USA and UK, and Lambretta Club USA
Host: First Annual U.S. Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Record Trials, November 21st 2010, El Mirage Dry Lake, CA
Official Confirmed Entries:
#123 Alan S. ~ Kymco/Malossi S9 70cc
#124 Patrick O. ~ Vespa 150cc
#124 Patrick O. ~ Vespa 200cc
#126 Jeffrey C. ~ Gilera Runner 175cc
#126 Jeffrey C. ~ Vespa/Malossi 400cc
#127 Richard N. ~ Kymco 250cc
#130 Kathleen H. ~ Piaggio MP3 500cc
#133 Lewis L. ~ Salsbury 250cc Sidecar
#133 Lewis L. ~ Zundapp 200cc
#138 Michael A. ~ Lambretta 200cc
#142 Joe B. ~ CalSctr 150cc Hybrid
#145 Linda H. ~ Yamaha 400cc
#147 Dan S. ~ Kymco S9 50cc
#149 Will H. ~ Vespa/Malossi 150cc
#150 Josh R. ~ Yamaha TMAX 500cc
#155 Alan C. ~ Honda 50cc
#159 Sean F. ~ Vespa 175cc
#163 Stanton S. ~ Honda Helix 250cc
#164 Richard G. ~ Piaggio 300cc
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...lets all root for the S9s!!..
..wooo-hooo..GO KYMCO!!
;D
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Damn my people is down :D
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..dang..i'm on th trail of a local S9...
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Hope you get it, we'll see how close it is to the people. I think the intake and carb are the only difference.
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...between the lc and ac?
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No the people 50 motor,the bottom probably the same on the lc. cept the water pump.
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..sweet...
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WHOO WHO!
Motor-Scooter International Land-Speed Federation
www.motorscooterlandspeedfederation.org (http://www.motorscooterlandspeedfederation.org)
525 "B" Street, Suite 1500
San Diego, CA 92101
(619) 852-6985
MSILSF is a Proud Member:
Vespa Club USA
Vespa Club Great Britain
Lambretta Club USA
Host: First Annual U.S. Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Record Trials, November 21st 2010, El Mirage Dry Lake, CA
Official Confirmed Entries:
#123 Alan S. ~ Kymco/Malossi S9 70cc
#124 Patrick O. ~ Vespa 150cc
#124 Patrick O. ~ Vespa 200cc
#126 Jeffrey C. ~ Gilera Runner 175cc
#126 Jeffrey C. ~ Vespa/Malossi 400cc
#127 Richard N. ~ Kymco 250cc
#130 Kathleen H. ~ Piaggio MP3 500cc
#133 Lewis L. ~ Salsbury 250cc Sidecar
#133 Lewis L. ~ Zundapp 200cc
#138 Michael A. ~ Lambretta 200cc
#142 Joe B. ~ CalSctr 150cc Hybrid
#145 Linda H. ~ Yamaha 400cc
#147 Dan S. ~ Kymco S9 50cc
#148 Jesse D. ~ Vespa GT 200cc
#149 Will H. ~ Vespa/Malossi 150cc
#150 Josh R. ~ Yamaha TMAX 500cc
#155 Alan C. ~ Honda 50cc
#159 Sean F. ~ Vespa 175cc
#163 Stanton S. ~ Honda Helix 250cc
#164 Richard G. ~ Piaggio 300cc
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Dear Entrant / Prospective Entrant,
Please welcome KYMCO USA to our family of sponsors of the First Annual U.S. Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Trials! Rick Pawelka, Director of Marketing, KYMCO USA informed us yesterday of KYMCO's sponsorship participation, including the establishment of cash prize donations for KYMCO riders:
$500 for setting the MSLSF Ultimate Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Record;
$300 for any Kymco rider winning 1st in class;
$200 for any Kymco rider winning 2nd in class; and
$100 for any Kymco rider winning 3rd in class.
Thank you Rick and KYMCO USA for your support!
A. Spears,
Scootermeister
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Dear Land-Speed Enthusiast,
Our latest entry, John G. #173, is traveling from Ft. McCoy, FL!
Will H. #149 is traveling from Memphis, TN.
Lewis L. #133 is traveling from San Antonio, TX.
One of our entrants, Patrick D. #161 (Ojai, CA), listed his reason for entering as: "To help make the event successful and race at El Mirage like my father did with Model A Fords before WWII. . . ."
Official Confirmed Entries: (Sponsor(s)* / Club Affiliation **)
#123 Alan S. ~ Kymco/Malossi S9 70cc; *Maxima Racing Oils; MotorSport Scooters
#124 Patrick O. ~ Vespa 150cc; **Vespa Club of Los Gatos
#124 Patrick O. ~ Vespa 200cc; **Vespa Club of Los Gatos
#126 Jeffrey C. ~ Gilera Runner 175cc; *MotorSport Scooters
#126 Jeffrey C. ~ Vespa/Malossi 400cc; *MotorSport Scooters
#127 Richard N. ~ Kymco 250cc
#130 Kathleen H. ~ Piaggio MP3 500cc; *Prolong; HVMP Bar Ends
#132 Joel W. ~ Gilera Runner 200cc; **Hard Pack SC, ** 9’ers SC, ** Vespa Club of Lisbon
#133 Lewis L. ~ Salsbury 250cc+ Sidecar; **International Salsbury Restorers Society
#133 Lewis L. ~ Zundapp 200cc; **International Salsbury Restorers Society
#138 Michael A. ~ Lambretta 200cc; **San Joaquin Treads; **Lambretta Club USA; *Jet200.com
#139 David G. ~ Eton Matrix R4 150cc; **Petrol-Heads
#141 Gregory N. ~ Vespa 200cc; ** Black Sheep
#142 Joe B. ~ CalSctr 150cc Hybrid; *California Scooter Company
#145 Linda H. ~ Yamaha 400cc; **Twisted Riderz
#147 Dan S. ~ Kymco S9 50cc; *Otay Lakes Training Center, LLC
#148 Jesse D. ~ Vespa 200cc; *ModernVespa.com
#149 Will H. ~ Vespa/Malossi 150cc; **Memphis Kings Scooter Club
#150 Josh R. ~ Yamaha TMAX 500cc; *ScootMagazine.com
#155 Alan C. ~ Honda 50cc; **Ton Up Club San Diego
#159 Sean F. ~ Vespa 175cc
#161 Pat D. ~ Honda Rukus 50cc
#163 Stanton S. ~ Honda Helix 250cc; **Sky Island Riders
#164 Richard G. ~ Piaggio 300cc; **Vespa Club of Los Gatos
#165 Joshua S. ~ Honda 50cc Turbo Sidecar; *Yoshifab Racing
#173 Glenn G. ~ Jonway YTT 250cc;
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Dear Prospective Entrant,
This letter is being sent to the entire mailing list in the hope it will be forwarded to all prospective entrants. If you're fully entered, please be so kind as to simply forward this e-mail to any one you know who may be contemplating entering.
Thank you for your interest in the First Annual U.S. Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Trials, and for initiating the application process.
In order to clear up any possible confusion or misunderstanding regarding "Pre-Entry" status, it is imperative that I inform you that the only way to enter this event is completion of all parts of the on-line entry application and payment of an entry fee for each scooter you are entering. Perhaps more importantly, entries close at midnight on October 22nd, after which we will not be accepting any additional entries. This date has been selected as the cut-off date for both practical and administrative reasons. This letter is not intended to give you the "bums rush", but merely to inform you of the procedure that was set in place from the inception of this event.
Thank you for your enthusiasm and competitive spirit.
Sincerely,
Alan Spears,
Scootermeister
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Why are the rims limited to 14"? My people 50 2t came equipped with 16's from the factory!
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Pedro,
The SCTA (Southern California Timing Association) who generally hosts El Mirage has a 15" minimum, precluding scooters from participating. If you'll please go to the Rules section of our website you'll see that we've written special Rules exempting bonafide motor-scooters with larger wheel sizes from the 14" Rule. Your People 50 is a "motor-scooter" and, if you wish to enter, kindly advise asap so we can implement a special exemption.
Regards,
Alan
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I'm in Virginia, I wish I could make it out there for the speed trials. I just wanted to make sure folks with People's would be able to enter the competition.
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...a sweetly modded ppl would SCREAM!!!!
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50cc
#147 DAN SMITH, KYMCO S9 50cc
#155 ALLAN CHILDERS, HONDA METROPOLITAN 50cc
#161 PATRICK DEXTER, HONDA RUCKUS 50cc
#180 RACHAEL GRIEGO, GENUINE BUDDY 50cc
#188 MOLLY AKIN, HONDA METROPOLITAN GHOST 50cc
#190 JAMES SAPIENZ, PUMA LA VIDA 50cc
70cc
#123 ALAN SPEARS, KYMCO S9 MALOSSI 70cc
#146 JEFF MARTINEZ, YAMAHA ZUMA 70cc
#153 TARA PIERCE, YAMAHA VINO MALOSSI 70cc
100cc
#168 RYAN JEFFRIES, TNG 100cc
#181 JULIE BUCKNER, VESPA 50 SPECIAL 100cc
125cc
#156 LORENZO ORTIZ, YAMAHA VINO 125cc
#162 DAVID HIGHWAY, 1966 LAMBRETTA STARSTREAM 125cc
#169 R. BROOKS RUSSELL, VESPA 125cc
#172 STANLEY BEEBE, YAMAHA XC RIVA 125cc
150cc
#124 PATRICK OWENS, 1968 VESPA PRIMAVERA 150cc
#139 DAVID GARMAN, GENUINE BUDDY BLACK JACK 150cc
#149 WILLIAM HATCHER, 1981 VESPA ET3 PRIMAVERA/MALOSSI 150cc
#180 RACHAEL GRIEGO, GENUINE BUDDY BLACK JACK 150cc
#183 PHIL CAREY, 1980 VESPA 120 150cc
#184 KIRK SNELL, 1967 VESPA 125 150cc
#186 MICHAEL TOCKEY, KYMCO S8 150cc
#192 AARON McDONALD, VESPA 150cc
150cc Hybrid
#142 SYLVAIN BINAU, CALIFORNIA SCOOTER COMPANY CLASSIC 150cc Hybrid
175cc
#126 JEFFREY CORSARO, GILERA RUNNER 175cc
#159 SEAN M. FISHER, 1985 VESPA T5 (172cc)
#168 RYAN JEFFRIES, GENUINE BUDDY BLACK JACK 175cc
200cc
#124 PATRICK OWENS, VESPA 200cc
#132 JOEL WISMER, GILERA RUNNER 200cc
#138 MICHAEL ANHALT, 1963 LAMBRETTA 200cc
#141 GREGORY NICOLLE, 1979 VESPA 200cc
#144 WAID PARKER, ITALJET DRAGSTER 180cc
#148 JESSE DEVINE ~ VESPA 200cc
#177 RYAN KENNELLY ~ 1980 VESPA P200 VSE 200cc
#179 DEAN SUINN, 1974 LAMBRETTA SERVETTA SX200cc
#189 MICHAEL CANCILLA, 1979 VESPA P200cc
#191 JUSTIN MAGANA, 1979 VESPA P200cc
#192 AARON McDONALD, 1960s LAMBRETTA LI/TV 200cc
250cc
#127 RICHARD NEWMAN, KYMCO 250cc
#144 WAID PARKER, 1980 VESPA P200cc (210cc)
#163 STANTON SCOTT, HONDA 250cc
#171 STEPHEN WEST, 1969 LAMBRETTA/RAYSPEED GP 250cc
#173 GLENN GEARY, JONWAY YY250T 250cc
#175 MICHAEL FRANKOVICH, SYM RV250cc
#183 PHIL CAREY, 1971 VESPA RALLY 180 250cc
#187 KRISTIAN STORLI, 1957 VESPA VB1 150 (210cc)
#193 CRAIG BACHLER, 1965 LAMBRETTA LI 250cc
250cc Hybrid
#182 GARY SLOAN, FUJI S-101 SUPERFLOW RABBIT 250cc
300cc
#126 JEFFREY CORSARO, VESPA SUPER 300cc
#144 WAID PARKER, VESPA GTS 250cc (275cc)
#164 RICHARD GLASS, PIAGGIO 300cc
400cc
#145 LINDA HURLEY, YAMAHA MAJESTY 400cc
500cc
#130 KATHLEEN HILZ ~ PIAGGIO MP3 500cc
#150 JOSH ROGERS ~ YAMAHA TMAX 500cc
650cc
#170 ART HARRISON, SUZUKI BURGMAN EXECUTIVE 650cc
Sidecar Class to 250cc
#133 LEWIS LAURITO, 1963 VESPA w/Sidecar 150cc
Sidecar Class 251cc to 650cc
#133 LEWIS LAURITO, 1949 SALSBURY w/Sidecar 318cc
Sidecar Class 50cc Turbo
#165 JOSHUA ADLER, HONDA TURBO SIDECAR OUTFIT 50cc
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The venue for the First Annual U.S. Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Trials has been changed from El Mirage Dry Lake, Adelanto, CA, to "Historic Route 66", Devore, CA. This is due to the continued closure of El Mirage by the Bureau of Land Management. For further information please contact Alan Spears through the MSILSF website: www.motorscooterlandspeedfederation.org (http://www.motorscooterlandspeedfederation.org).
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First Annual U.S. Motor-Scooter Land-Speed Trials, "Historic Route 66", Devore, CA, November 21st 2010.
Official Results for Kymco Racers:
50cc Class ~ 2nd Place:
Dan Smith, Kymco S9 (42 mph)
70cc Class ~ 2nd Place:
Alan Spears, Kymco S9 Malossi Racer (53 mph)
150cc Class ~ 4th Place:
Michael Tockey, Kymco S8 (61 mph)
250cc Class ~ 4th Place:
Richard Newman, Kymco GrandVista (55 mph)
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Alright! 3 models and 4 riders in the top 5!! Way to go!!!
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Hey Rianna, so now that you've got the scoot up and running, I expect you to be entered for next year!
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Yeah, oswaldters, soon as I get me that S9! ;D
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So you're gonna go Word on us and start collecting scoots?
It's like an arms race to see who can collect the whole set first!
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:D Gotta collect 'em all!! ;D
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A noble quest.
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1st Annual Motor Scooter Land Speed Trials (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7TpmcdOObM#ws)
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Mon, December 13, 2010 9:29:21 AM
Rules 1, 1.G and 1.G.(a)
From: Alan Spears <msilsf@yahoo.com> View Contact
To: "Carl Hancock; VP Operations"; "Michael E. Turner; Esq."; "Dennis Rowe; Chief Tech Inspector" Cc:
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Gentlemen,
This past weekend Kathleen Hilz, Scott Hamblin and I spent hours debating the definitions of motor-scooters and miniature motorcycles. Our consensus of opinion is the definition of a motor-scooter under Rule 1 is the correct one:
"Motor scooters are defined as a two-wheel motorized vehicle with step-through frame and a flat floorboard for the rider's feet. The scooter engine and drive system are attached to the rear axle. In contrast to a frame mounted motorcycle engine, this front-hinged arrangement allows the engine to swing vertically in conjunction with the motion of the rear wheel. Older Vespas and Lambrettas, most vintage scooters, and some newer retro models have axle mounted engines with a manual transmission with the gear shift and clutch controls built into the left handlebar. Current generation scooters use a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT). Scooters generally feature bodywork, including a front leg shield and body that conceals all or most of the mechanicals. There is often some integral storage space, either under the seat, built into the front leg shield, or both. Most modern motor scooters have smaller wheels than motorcycles, between 10" and 14" inches in diameter. Most scooters have smaller engines than motorcycles (between 50 Cubic-centimeter cc and 500cc) with a single cylinder, though larger models have twin-cylinder engines to 650cc."
We specifically find the Mustang replica is not a "scooter" notwithstanding it's small wheels. Hence it will never be classified as a "scooter". Consequently, to keep true to our Federation objectives and our scooter enthusiasts, we will not be homolgating the Mustang, YSR50 Yamahas, or motorcycles fitted with small wheels as "scooters". Rule 1.G. is modified accordingly:
"1.G. HYBRIDS (NON STEP-THROUGH SMALL WHEEL CYCLES)
Hybrid scooters are defined as two-wheel motorized vehicles that resemble miniature motorcyles fitted with solid aluminum or steel motor-scooter type wheels not exceeding 14". Hybrids have a frame-mounted motorcycle engine featuring a manual transmission with a foot-operated gear shift and clutch lever mounted on the left handlebar. Unless otherwise stated in these Rules, Hybrid engine displacement is limited to 150cc. Engines shall be normally aspirated. Insofar as the foregoing Rules (1.A through 1.F, inclusive) are not inconsistent with this definition, they apply. Hybrid cycles shall compete separately from traditional step-through motor-scooters in a class designated as 150cc Hybrid."
As regards the Fuji S101 Ninja-powered/chain-driven scooter, we recognize it started life as a scooter, and has the external physical characteristics of a scooter. Nevertheless, it is fitted with a Ninja engine. Rule 1.G.(a) permitting it to run is appropriate, and reconfirmed without modification. The Ninja-powered Fuji remains distinguished from traditional motor-scooters.
"1.G.(a) HYBRIDS (STEP-THROUGH SCOOTERS)
Hybrid scooters are defined as two wheel motorized vehicles fitted with solid aluminum or steer motor-scooter type wheels not exceeding 14". Hybrids have a frame-mounted motorcycle engine, with chain or belt final drive, featuring a manual transmission with a foot-operated gear shift and cluth lever mounted on the left handlebar. Unless otherwise stated, Hybrid engine displacement for step-through scooters is limited to 250cc. Engines shall be normally aspirated. Insofar as the foregoing Rules (1.A through 1.F, inclusive) are not inconsistent with this definition, they apply. Hybrid scooter shall compete separately from tranditional step-through motor-scooters in a class designated 250cc Hybrid."
We will continue to accommodate the Mustang replicas, and the chain-driven Fuji, running in classes properly distinguished from traditional motor-scooters for the simple reason that SCTA bars them from competition. Racers seeking to enter small wheel cycles falling outside the ambit of Rules 1, 1.G, and 1.G.(a), will be examined on an ad hoc basis. Because of time constraints associated with conducting events at land-speed venues, requests to add new classes must be submitted in writing at least twelve (12) months in advance of the event in which entry is sought. The MSILSF Executive Committee will respond to such requests within ninety (90) days, and may summarily deny same without explanation.
Alan
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A podcast pertaining to this event was created this date and published to the web:
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=16296&cmd=tc (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=16296&cmd=tc)