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Scooters - 125 to 300 => People s200 => Topic started by: CALtd-SLO on September 27, 2019, 09:10:10 PM
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Engine will not idle. The day started out fine. The bike started and got me 2 miles to the park to play Pickleball. 2 hours later I leave the park and get 2.5 miles down the road to get petrol and stop to turn left. Engine dies. I had to push it across street to get out of left turn lane.
At the curb on the stand, I was able to full (then half) throttle start the engine multiple times but could only sustain operation at least half throttle. Thinking this was lack of petrol situation I forced the engine to get me 2 blocks to gas station. Once full of new petrol and many attempts to start engine and reduce throttle lower, I decide to ride the 2 miles home never let it stall out. Luckily I only had 1 red light and coasted through a couple of stop signs.
Thinking the problem was idle setting I tried maxing out idle seat. No joy.
Then I removed the seat bucket and found that manifold from carburetor to cylinder was missing 1 of 2 nuts and the other was about to come off as well. The O ring for the manifold was distorted and not round.
Need opinions of my options:
- take it back the the shop that just worked on it less than 500 miles ago to replace head gaskets
- reassemble with new gaskets and O rings
- rebuild the carburetor while I have it off in case it was the cause of fuel problems
- suspect fuel in tank problem (bad gas) and flush the tank
Shop manual suggests there is a "fuel screen" but I cannot find any info on where it is located and can be cleaned or replaced.
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I must add that I think option 1 is wrong because I can believe I will ever trust the only shop within 100 miles again.
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I must add that I think option 1 is wrong because I can believe I will ever trust the only shop within 100 miles again.
When you look at parts diagrams do you see a thing which looks like a Tea-bag on the lower end of the fuel pump, in the tank?
That's the fuel filter on my LIKE200i.
Stig
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Definitely agree not exercising option #1.
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No tea bag but there is a vacuum valve on the bottom of the tank. Manual has test procedure that I will work on this weekend. Thanks all for comments. I'll test and report.
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I suppose if you found that the intake was loose, then you have found the source of the problem. Shop obviously did not tighten the intake down properly.
I would just install the intake properly, and go from that point. As it no doubt came loose on your way to pickleball, the lean condition would have caused the hard starting. So you probably have no fuel issue.
Call the shop that did the work and let them know what had happened. Running lean like that didn't help your engine.
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Sounds like Dan V has the right advice. Have you had a chance to re tighten everything back up? did it fix the problem?
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Thank you all for your comments and encouragement.
I obtained an O-ring to at O'Reillys for the intake manifold. Amazing that the People 200 S was in their computer that led the counter woman on scavenger hunt to find a suitable match. Turns out it was a part for 4cyl Acura Honda engine. (remember that KYMCO used to make bikes for Honda)
I have not done a long ride but went around the block to make sure no other obvious issues will rise up on my next journey.
I am not sure I ever want to step foot into the local Scooter shop, so the observation to talk to them will not have resolution.