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Title: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: DanH on September 21, 2019, 03:19:45 PM
I still consider myself a new rider. It took the MSF to let me know where my weaknesses are. So, I created a practice routine for weekends (empty mall parking lots) using eight cones, a piece of rope and and anchor point. These all fit rather snugly beneath my seat.

Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: DanH on September 21, 2019, 03:21:24 PM
The string has knots tied at 12', 13' and 14'.
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: DanH on September 21, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
Using these three items, I am able to recreate a few of the MSF rider exercises: Swerve between cones, the Box, and the Circle.

For the circle, the T-Wrench is used as an anchor point.

Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: DanH on September 21, 2019, 03:27:38 PM
Any other suggestions for practice. I was weak at emergency breaking in a straight line. And I was troubled by the exercise where we had to countersteer to avoid an object in front of us (swerve left to avoid, then correct by swerving back to the right).
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: big blue on September 21, 2019, 03:44:46 PM
As I recall one of the hardest moves in the MSF course was one in which you roll up to a stop and then immediately turn to the left or right without touching with your feet. It requires you to balance and steer at the same time. A lot of folks failed on this one. They would either stall or fall over! I got through it OK but it is difficult. I think it's actually harder on a scooter because of the auto clutch.
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: klaviator on September 21, 2019, 03:52:32 PM
Great way to practice.  See if you can find a Gymkhana to participate in.  It's even better practice as the courses are sometimes much harder than the MSF course.
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: klaviator on September 21, 2019, 06:24:30 PM
As I recall one of the hardest moves in the MSF course was one in which you roll up to a stop and then immediately turn to the left or right without touching with your feet. It requires you to balance and steer at the same time. A lot of folks failed on this one. They would either stall or fall over! I got through it OK but it is difficult. I think it's actually harder on a scooter because of the auto clutch.

With enough practice EVERYTHING in the MSF course is easy.  I did the MSF experienced rider course about 14 years ago because I was able to take it for free and it seemed like it would be fun.  It was fun but nothing in the course was even remotely challenging.  It's all a matter of practice.
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 21, 2019, 07:17:38 PM
Hmmm. Well, OK then Klav..
I tested & passed on a tall Yamamahammer dirt bike.
I failed at keeping inside the rectangle while doing figure 8's.
Made it miles home safe today in a downpour....but after 30,000 miles of scooter riding I still avoid painted rectangles.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FqT3DJs/P1090028-4.jpg)

Whatever works for you Dan.
Stig
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: DanH on September 21, 2019, 09:32:00 PM
... I still avoid painted rectangles ...
In SoCal, the Box (figure 8's in a rectangle) is not part of the MSF course. We didn't practice it, so it wasn't tested. I overheard the instructor say he can't think of a reason a rider would have to ride a figure 8 inside a rectangle when street riding, so it was optioned out.
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: monkeybongos on September 22, 2019, 01:47:47 PM
That logic may make sense on the surface, but it's a good exercise for learning control of the bike,
especially at slow speeds in tight spaces.
Title: Re: Eight Cones, a Piece of Rope, and an Anchor Point
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on September 22, 2019, 04:55:53 PM
No argument there - do practice it if you need it - but I like the instructor's logic.
A slow tip over is not high on my riding worries out there with the deer, tree limbs, wet leaves and cars.

Stig