KymcoForum.com

Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 10:59:32 PM

Title: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 10:59:32 PM
So I have made the decision to go ahead and upgrade to some new (read non-Cheng Shin) tires.

After exhaustive research, I found the Word is on top of it when he suggested the Avon Viper Stryke AM63 tires as they are very well reviewed by all.

Found a local motorcycle shop that will mount the tires on the scooter.  But seems expensive for mounting up to $65 for the rear tire because they have to remove the exhaust etc.

Is that price out of line?   I never take my scoot in for service so I have no idea what the going rate for service is.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 11:08:31 PM
..i pay 10 bucks for the front and 20 for the rear at a local cycle shop...
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
..where you getting the tires from??
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 11:15:54 PM
I thought $65 seemed high.  

And from what I can tell from talking to the guys in the shop, they aren't exactly busy there.

Maybe I can negotiate with them.

It would suck to pay $80 for the tires and $130 for the mounting.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
..where you getting the tires from??

Right now Bike Bandit seems to be the cheapest.

Motorcycle Superstore didn't have the right size.  Apparently there are 'front' tires, 'rear' tires, and 'front/rear' tires.

The front tires at Motorcycle Superstore didn't come in the 120/70 size for 12 inch rims. 

Of course, I could go with the 'rear' tires on the front - the 120/70 size is available for 12 inch rims.

What exactly is the difference between a 'front' and a 'rear' tire anyway?







Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 11:25:02 PM
..front is 120-70-12...

..rear is 130-70-12...

..i got my tires at motorcyclesuperstore...

..they DO have both sizes..and they are tried and tru, first quality tires..

..there are some tire sites that sell cheaper tires, but they are not top quality..may be a small defect..(balance issue)...

..the avon is a front/rear tire...

..both sizes are listed on their site as "rear" tires...

"http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/5/32/404/12010/ITEM/Avon-AM63-Viper-Stryke-Rear-Scooter-Tire.aspx"

Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 11:29:36 PM
Thanks for clearing that up.

I wondered why the had them listed separately on the site.

I noticed that Bike Bandit lists all three types of tires to select from in the list (front, rear, front/rear).  They also did not have a 120/70 12 in a 'front' tire, but like I said they had both sizes available in the front/rear list.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 11:32:20 PM
..i don't know about their tires...never heard any reviews, i reckon...

Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
Oh, my writing skills are failing - I really phrased that wrong.

These are the same Avon Viper Stryke AM 63 tires - just a different store selling them.  They seem a little more expensive than Motorcycle Superstore (maybe $5-$8 all tolled). 

They also don't deliver to the installer like the Superstore.  So I guess I'll have to decide if I want to put on over each shoulder or jam them around my neck so I look like the Michelin Man.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 11:48:21 PM
...lol..i bungeed mine to the rack...

..one at a time tho, as i bought them at different times...

...i mean... you could do this!!
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 12:02:48 AM
You think he'd just roll down the road if he fell off the bike?
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 12:11:05 AM
..they're all alive!!
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 12:18:48 AM
Wow, talk about poultry in motion!
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 12:19:40 AM
.. ;D :D ;D...

..lmfao...

..poultry...
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: blue on September 15, 2010, 01:14:20 AM
I put my tiers on my self get a set of tire spoons and dish soap and its not that hard just alot of elbow power.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 01:18:45 AM
I put my tiers on my self

Damn Blue, you are hardcore!

I would be afraid to ride at speed on tires I mounted myself!
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 01:22:10 AM
I put my tiers on my self

..wow..i reckon you IS da MAN!!!

..i have not the patience...
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Rianna on September 15, 2010, 01:59:26 AM
I put my tiers on my self get a set of tire spoons and dish soap and its not that hard just alot of elbow power.

...i have not the elbow power... ;D

Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 02:17:58 AM
The question is whether I'll have the negotiating power to talk these guys down from charging that much for mounting the tires.

Seems waaay to high.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 02:19:33 AM
..i would expect to pay 30-50 bucks normally..

..i'm getting a deal at this shop, from what i've read on here...
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: blue on September 15, 2010, 02:43:14 AM
I payed 35 for my tires and my time to put on so I think I did ok .the bad thing about putting on your self is the little paint you might take of the rim.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: Rianna on September 15, 2010, 02:48:25 AM
You did real good, blue! That's awesome.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: art on September 15, 2010, 03:59:01 AM
  Its not to hard if you got the tire irons,used to have to do it on the trail. But the vyper strykes? I got the front on no problem the rear would not seet so cost me $5 to let a pro do it.(more air pressure than i could create at home (damn tubless tires  ;D )
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: sidthesloth on September 15, 2010, 11:09:59 AM
I paid $75 for a rear tyre, fitted it myself, though next time I will get rim protectors.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: CONLEY on September 15, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
THEY DO MAKE PLATIC COVERS FOR THE TIRE SPOONS SO YOU DON'T MESS THE RIMS UP
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 11:06:29 PM
I don't know that I'll be putting the tires on myself - but they've been ordered.

We'll see how long they take to ship.

Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: sidthesloth on September 15, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
$65 for half hours work? Go on, give it a go, think what you could buy with that $65. ;)
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 11:11:11 PM
..if i can get it changed for 25...it's waaay worth it for me..

..i'll learn how to later!!

 ;D
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 11:15:07 PM
I agree that the $65 is way too much.  I'll see what I can work - no huge rush.

Besides, I can have hours of fun finding various methods to carry the tires to the shop while I ride.



Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 11:18:58 PM
..lol..bungee-bungee!!
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 11:21:41 PM
..lol..bungee-bungee

to the bike or to my body?
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 11:22:47 PM
..YES!!...

    ;D
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: sidthesloth on September 15, 2010, 11:48:51 PM
Michelin man.
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 11:50:12 PM
..like this..'xcept different...
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 11:53:08 PM
Might be tough to do with those 12 inch tires - I'm not that thin!

Where do you come up with these photos?

Hmmmmm.  Lot of pink in that picture...
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 11:54:32 PM
..yeah..pink...dang..

..i got these pics years ago..waay before i ever got a scoot...

 8)
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on September 17, 2010, 05:03:36 PM
lol no wonder crash accidents are more common place in other lets say less safety oriantated countrys  :o
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on September 17, 2010, 05:04:39 PM
Re:pictures not you guys lol :)
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: sirrealism on September 18, 2010, 12:06:21 PM
I dont know how much tougher it is to do the 12 inchers but i did a pair of 10s on my china POS. with 2 big screw drivers and a little soap. took about 15 min for the pair. 12s might be a little tougher but for that kind of money I would at least try. if you have another means of transportation you can always take them to the shop if you cant do it. I dont think you could screw anything up trying. thats just me though. love this site!!! thanks to everyone for all the info
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on September 18, 2010, 12:17:19 PM
its all good just 1 big learing curve for all im loving that ;D
Title: Re: New Tires
Post by: sidthesloth on September 18, 2010, 12:37:49 PM
I haven't tried changing a 10 inch tyre, but as a general rule, I think the larger the diameter, the easier it is, depending on the profile.