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Title: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 01:40:37 AM
how many ride in the winter. and what can we do to stay worm on are scoots lol.
like maybe a heated seat and a scooter blanket.lol
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 01:49:17 AM
I ride in winter.  Pretty much all I can do is to go for warm clothing.  No heated grips and such since I've been told the electric system can't handle the load.

Best thing is to dress in layers - wind is the killer!

I have a balaclava I wear on the really cold days (below 20 degrees) since I have an open face helmet.  I picked one up that is made to block wind.  

Gloves are another key bit of equipment.  I go with the gauntlet style gloves that cover up to the mid-forearm area.  Keeps the wind from going up my sleeve.  The gloves I use have an inner fleece glove and an outer waterproof layer.  Keeps me pretty warm, but there's only so much any glove can do against the wind.

Beyond that, you have to just grin and bear it.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: sidthesloth on September 14, 2010, 01:51:04 AM
The Kymco grin.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 01:52:45 AM
Makes you feel tough.

All those other bikers are sitting in their cars thinking "damn....that guys tough!"
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 01:53:04 AM
..the key, as os has said, is layers..layers layers....

..and keeping the wind off your skin...

..i made a flap that i velcroed to th front inside of my full-face helmet to block the wind from getting between my balaclava and my helmet...

..keeps the wind outta my eyes completely...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 01:54:34 AM
Just remember to take the balaclava off before you stop at the bank.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 01:57:22 AM
..unless you wanna get then dead really quick...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 02:06:53 AM
ya not much we can do but take it slow and easy on bad days and dress to ride worm.
and find ways to block the wind.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 02:09:10 AM
...and watch out for ice patches!

This is where having some auxiliary front lighting would be really important.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 02:14:08 AM
...and watch out for ice patches!

This is where having some auxiliary front lighting would be really important.
for real Im going to make sure my flood lights work this year for the night ride home from work
dont work much night so I should be good.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 02:17:14 AM
Yeah, you have a good setup with those.   I need to take some inspiration from that do the same.

It gets dark so early in winter that even coming home after 5 is night riding.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 02:20:09 AM
..yup..winter riding is dark on th way in...generally going home too....

..hence..all the lighting..

..some say "Other than oem lighting is not needed"..

..i beg to differ...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 02:22:06 AM
My concern is not overloading the electric system.

Not sure how many more watts I can add to it.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 02:29:19 AM
..all my lamps are on their own circuit...directly from the battey, thru a fuse, then a toggle switch i installed...

..i suggest not modifying the original wiring very much...

..LEDs use very small ammounts of current, but when run in series, they can burn oem wiring..

..i let the smoke out of some of my oem wiring...lol.. i know...

 :-\
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 02:29:42 AM
My concern is not overloading the electric system.

Not sure how many more watts I can add to it.
you should be all good I just hooked up a cigarette lighter under my seat
and then when I need my flood lights I plug theam in. just make sure your cig. lighter has a fuse in it
so it well blow and nothing ealse.and hook up right to the battery
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 02:37:14 AM
I'm definitely intrigued by the idea. 

Of course, I know nothing about wiring so this may take some time.

And I'm with Word on this - not going to modify the original wiring! 
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 02:49:11 AM
its easy just have to know your + from your - or hot wire from your ground. THe think I like about the cig. lighter is you can use it to plug in just about anythig I even use it for a little radeo you can plug a
12 converter to it and run any home appliance to it. and yes or toaster to lol...lmao
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 02:51:31 AM
..dang..i'm always hungry on th' ride...

..i could have toast!!!!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 02:53:18 AM
Maybe you could plug in a heating pad for winter riding...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 02:53:34 AM
boy how did I know you would be the frist to see that lol
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 02:55:23 AM
Maybe you could plug in a heating pad for winter riding...
lmao dont give me any ideas. im part red neck ill try anything
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 02:55:40 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 14, 2010, 02:56:31 AM
..drill it ...plug it..whatever!!!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 14, 2010, 02:56:50 AM
Or perhaps go with the hairdryer idea.  One hand on the throttle, one of the hairdryer to provide you with a warm breeze.

The possibilities are endless...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 14, 2010, 03:15:36 AM
Or perhaps go with the hairdryer idea.  One hand on the throttle, one of the hairdryer to provide you with a warm breeze.

The possibilities are endless...
  oo my god I just peed my self lmao
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on September 14, 2010, 12:24:12 PM
just don't pee on the electric heating pad...lol
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 15, 2010, 02:52:16 AM
mmmmmmmm heating pad mmmmmmm looks im going to have a worm a$$ this winter.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 02:53:09 AM
...cool...but don't pee!!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 02:54:06 AM
And you can use the heating pad to warm up the engine in the morning.  Sort of like a block heater.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 02:55:01 AM
..yeah..wouldnt need the iridium then!!...lol..
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on September 15, 2010, 02:56:17 AM
lol I was thinking of get a block heater anyone here ever try theam.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 15, 2010, 02:56:59 AM
Hey Word - fittingly, your 5000th post is in the Agility 50 section.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on September 15, 2010, 03:01:36 AM
...wow...thanx oz....
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on September 17, 2010, 07:10:45 PM
lol you guys make me p1ss,i just thought of a mint idea!!.Use the cig plug with the hair dryer mount it backwards and lone behold jet power you may get that illusive 1 extra mph we all looking for lmfao  :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on September 17, 2010, 07:16:56 PM
lmao or you could also mount it to your front forks max out your heat setting and blow as well as melt the snow for winter riding,ok im taking this too far now sorry :-[
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on September 17, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
mount it backwards and lone behold jet power you may get that illusive 1 extra mph we all looking for

I would mount it on a swivel so you could spin it around the other way to assist you in the event you have to make a panic stop.

Inovative thinking in action...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: omfgdotcodotuk on September 18, 2010, 10:59:41 AM
lmao you just have to go one better os dont ya :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on October 18, 2010, 05:29:07 PM
This just happened last night close to where I live:

Two Struck on Moped in Hit-and-Run
Updated: Monday, 18 Oct 2010, 12:31 PM EDT


Officers say the driver of a vehicle struck two teenagers who were riding a moped along eastbound Veirs Mill Road.

Witnesses say the scooter was in the travel lanes when it was struck from behind.

The driver of the moped has been identified as 19-year-old Mario Claros Hernandez. He remains in serious condition at a local trauma center.

The passenger has been identified as 16-year-old Noel Hernandez Mendoza who remains hospitalized in critical condition.

The vehicle is described as two-door silver Mercedes with dark windows.

Police say it fled the scene and has possible front-end damage.


This is exactly what scares me about riding at night - which is hard to avoid in the winter months with the sun setting so early.  And I'll wager that neither of the riders were wearing helmets either.

At least the driver turned himself in this afternoon.  Lets hope for the best for the riders.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: wordslinger on October 18, 2010, 11:23:34 PM
This just happened last night close to where I live:

..we're all taking our lives into our own hands when we ride 50cc scoots...

..stay alert, and scoot smart..



..and pray for those fellow scooter riders...


peace
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on October 18, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Wear a helmet - don't know for sure if they were wearing them or not, but too many people around here don't wear them.

And load up on lights and reflective tape/clothing to make you more visible. 

Man, getting run down from behind as you are scooting down the road following traffic laws and minding your own business.

...hard to defend against that.... 
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on October 19, 2010, 01:00:26 AM
Damn...they're so young. Do they have traffic cams on that road by any chance, oswaldters?

That Mercedes owner should not be driving...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on October 19, 2010, 01:10:04 AM
This just happened last night close to where I live:

..we're all taking our lives into our own hands when we ride 50cc scoots...

..stay alert, and scoot smart..



..and pray for those fellow scooter riders...


peace
x2
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on October 19, 2010, 01:49:01 AM
No, they don't have cameras there.

But the driver did surrender to the police.

Haven't been updated on the condition of the 2 riders yet.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on October 19, 2010, 01:53:17 AM
Yeah, I hope they will be okay. They might have an update for the 11 o'clock news. I'm glad the driver went in. Wow, he must have just freaked out and panicked or something.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on October 19, 2010, 01:54:58 AM
My guess is he was drinking.

The accident happened not long after the Redskins game ended last night. 
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on October 19, 2010, 02:09:57 AM
Yeah, that could be. He will be in a world of trouble if that proves to be the case.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on October 19, 2010, 02:16:10 AM
We'll never know - they can't prove anything since he turned himself in hours later.

But he's in a lot of trouble either way for leaving the scene of an accident - especially with such serious injuries resulting.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: codger78 on November 01, 2010, 04:11:47 PM
Notice to all 30mph moped riders.
Somewhere out there waiting for you is that one guy in five hundred that for sure should not be allowed to drive a car.
I do wish with all my heart that you will never meet up with him, but if that should come to pass, remember this.
All the smart habits you practice every day so that they become automatic will be the weapons in your arsenal helping you to stay alive and in one piece.
Always remember that you are the little fish in a big pond.
.........CCC.....
You must exercise MORE...Caution/ Common sense/ courtesy...than anyone else in that pond.
.....Good luck. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on November 01, 2010, 11:12:19 PM
You must exercise MORE...Caution/ Common sense/ courtesy

Amen to that!

Cold mornings now - low to mid-30s, so getting into the winter riding mode early.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 02, 2010, 01:33:14 AM
had my frist run in with the snow this morning  did perty good. just have to learn to take theam corners a little slower.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 02, 2010, 02:25:49 AM
Good news that you had no troubles and are still out there riding.

Looks like I'll be getting a refresher course as well in the next couple of days according to the weather man.  Definitely out of the season of leaning far into turns...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 02, 2010, 03:11:24 AM
ya at times like this I wana tune my scoot down to go slower I stell find my self wanting speed.
But I know I cant.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 02, 2010, 03:14:31 AM
I hear you there blue!  I'm the same way and going full out yet I know that I'm driving in the dark and any water could be frozen and hard to see. 

Gotta learn to tone it down until spring...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 03, 2010, 01:04:05 AM
hay it beats walking. but when I do get to work on days like this im told im crazy,but yet get the most respect for geting to work.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 03, 2010, 11:26:26 PM
Yeah, but all those sport biker types aren't feeling so tough as they sit in their cars watching you scoot on by.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 04, 2010, 12:22:29 AM
there eather saying im crazy or brave or just dumb.me im thinking I got guts and im brave to ride in this nasty weather.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 04, 2010, 12:49:41 AM
There is a certain satisfaction to knowing that people are looking at you and thinking "I can't believe he's riding in 12 degree weather."

It does make you feel kinda badass.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 04, 2010, 02:28:28 AM
hell ya im a bad ass . sounds good to me
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 04, 2010, 02:29:54 AM
:D @ blue
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 10, 2010, 12:31:17 AM
Dam its cold out time to look for one of those scotter blankets.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 10, 2010, 12:36:40 AM
I know, it was 16 this morning. 

Scoot wasn't real anxious to start and made me work at it.

Had to break out the neck warmer and long underwear for the ride.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 10, 2010, 12:50:43 AM
Dang...y'all deserve a nice soak in the jacuzzi after a day like today!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 10, 2010, 12:54:27 AM
y'all deserve a nice soak in the jacuzzi after a day like today!

I think you're right and we do deserve that.

But won't happen for me.  :(
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 10, 2010, 01:02:09 AM
Somebody better get out there and do a warm weather dance soon.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 10, 2010, 01:04:59 AM
Yes, if anyone knows that dance - now's the time to start it!


Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 10, 2010, 03:31:11 AM
Dang...y'all deserve a nice soak in the jacuzzi after a day like today!
start the water ill be right there.    lol :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 10, 2010, 03:34:18 AM
Better bring your scooter blanket - it'll be a cold ride down.

Plus, it could double as a towel.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 10, 2010, 04:07:30 AM
LOL!

So sorry, blue, the only jacuzzi I see these days is in my dreams! :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 11, 2010, 01:16:16 AM
LOL!

So sorry, blue, the only jacuzzi I see these days is in my dreams! :D
  I guy could only hope, :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 11, 2010, 01:20:14 AM
Had our first dusting of snow today - enough to stick to the roads in the morning. 

Needless to say, didn't lean too far into those turns.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 11, 2010, 01:27:13 AM
Shhhhhhhhhh...snow is a 4-letter word! :D

I tried to go out for a little ride today when it got above 40 degrees, but the scoot didn't want to start. :(
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 11, 2010, 01:31:37 AM
That's surprising, I usually don't have trouble until it gets below 20, and even then it will start with a little persuasion.



Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 11, 2010, 01:58:16 AM
Yeah, I was set to go and I expected to have to play with it a little since it's been sitting. I didn't have time to play around too much so I had to give up on the idea for today. Seems like I'm just not meant to ride this thing this year.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 11, 2010, 02:01:14 AM
Yes, it can be harder to start after it has been sitting for a while without running.

Since your scoot is kept indoors, temperature shouldn't be a problem for it.

Time for some troubleshooting!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 11, 2010, 02:11:12 AM
Yup...indoors. I'm glad I tried it before I pushed it all the way out to the road. If only I had the time for troubleshooting. Stuff like that never happens when you have plenty of time, does it?
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 11, 2010, 02:14:28 AM
Yes, that's the way it goes.

I was rushing out this morning and got the scoot all warmed up and then the wife was taking the kids to school and noticed a flat tire on minivan...

Thankfully, once I got that all straightened and got on the subway, the train went down and we all got stuck there   :(

TGIF!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 11, 2010, 02:22:23 AM
TGIF!

I know that's right.

Wow...snow on the roads, flat tire, stuck train...sounds like you had a rough go of it this morning!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 11, 2010, 02:25:35 AM
The cold doesn't seem to help anything work right.

I know there have been many water main breaks in the area due to the cold temps so I'm just glad none of the roads I use were closed.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: BlueScooter on December 11, 2010, 03:45:54 AM
I have a pair of heated gloves wired to the battery, and a first gear one piece suit. I also have a Cuppini windscreen that makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 11, 2010, 03:52:08 AM
I have thought about the windscreen option as well.

I like the shorter touring version rather than the standard style which probably would provide less protection from the wind.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 11, 2010, 10:46:05 PM
been there done that. if your scoot is jeted just right you should beable to just start it right
up. My other scoot I have to heat up the shed if it under 20 out side then it well start right up.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: codger78 on December 12, 2010, 01:06:25 AM
I wonder how wrapping a tarp or an old cargo blanket around the engine area with a 100 watt light bulb underneath, and maybe a timer as well, would work out.  That's sort of what we did with the old (1930's) type cars in the winter.  Of course you should locate the lamp so as to protect it from fuel or oil drippings or anything else that might start a fire......might be cheaper than heating the whole shed or garage.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 12, 2010, 01:09:41 AM
or maybe a radiant heater of some type. 

As long as you don't melt any plastic parts!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: codger78 on December 12, 2010, 01:53:46 AM
Oswaldters...Check out www.heeters.com/pa.shtml (http://www.heeters.com/pa.shtml).  I installed the touring, 17 1/2" high (#KY-4326) $139.95 (fits Kymco, Agility 50, 2009 etc.)two years ago.......mounted securely with a short piece of that black foam tubing used to insulate water pipes... on to the front bottom of the wind shield where it lays against the scooter to keep it from the slight rattling vibration produced by the road bumps and pot holes.
It comes with good solid hardware to clamp it down.....Had it for 2 years and 3000 miles with no problems with shifting or loosening.....I use the more open type helmet with the face mask, and most of the wind is deflected by the mask and the shield.
........I had tried another one earlier,  but the hardware was too skimpy and after one or two bumps it needed more tightening.....this one is really worth the money.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: codger78 on December 12, 2010, 01:58:04 AM
The nice thing about a light bulb is that it produces just enough heat but won't melt any plastic parts....unless you lay it right on them.  I would use a shop lamp with a shield.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 12, 2010, 02:03:14 AM
Thanks codger,

I have been looking at the Heeters site and wondering about those windscreens for a couple of years now.  I like the idea about the foam tubing, that makes good sense. Great to hear someone what actually tried that windscreen - I always wondered about how solid it was.

I recently switched to a full face helmet which in conjunction with the neck warmer keeps me much warmer on those cold rides.  But a windscreen still seems like a good idea (and will for the next few months as temperatures stay low).
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 12, 2010, 02:44:45 AM
just wrap your scoot in a elec blanket.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 12, 2010, 02:47:43 AM
Well a heating pad would fit nicely on the engine....
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 12, 2010, 03:26:33 AM
Yeah, seems like I remember doing that with an old car many years ago, can't say I really remember the reason why though.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 12, 2010, 03:28:47 AM
Sadly, I've reached the stage where I need the heating pad for me and the scoot will just have to do without.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 12, 2010, 03:45:00 AM
Poor scoot...banished to the cold without even a heating pad...LOL!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 12, 2010, 03:46:23 AM
It's a hard knock life...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 12, 2010, 04:13:04 AM
Snow's supposed to be coming this way tomorrow (90% chance of precipitation) so I reckon me and my scoot are housebound for a bit.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 12, 2010, 04:14:46 AM
At least you can share the electric blanket with your scoot.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 12, 2010, 04:35:53 AM
LOL...if you say so, but ain't no way I'm sharin' the heated waterbed with it!!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 13, 2010, 09:51:22 PM
Dam wish I had a heated bed it cold out. I need tire chains now.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 13, 2010, 10:11:05 PM
I hear you blue.

I'm guessing it won't be getting any warmer anytime soon either.

Have to really watch out for slick spots now.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 01:29:48 AM
Yeah, with the below freezing temps now any wet spot on the road will be ice for sure.

I couldn't live without that heated bed, blue. I've have tried over the years, but I don't manage to get any sleep. They are a dream to climb into on a cold night! Tire chains? You have snow??
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 01:34:08 AM
Riding in snow is what I call outrigger weather - you have to get your feet out for balance some times.

I'll settle for the wind dropping below 30mph, those crosswinds have made it even more challenging.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 01:43:47 AM
We've had 30mph winds here today as well. I see there are a number of challenges this time of year to keep you on your toes.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 01:45:41 AM
And number one on the list is not freezing to death...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 14, 2010, 02:40:43 AM
time for some dry gas. I have seafoam well that work as well.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 02:42:07 AM
Sea-foam is good. :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 02:47:21 AM
Sea-foam is good.

I might have to drink some for breakfast tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 02:50:59 AM
Sea-foam is good.

I might have to drink some for breakfast tomorrow morning.


Well...I dunno if it's THAT good. :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 02:53:23 AM
I need to modify one of those hydration packs to hold hot coffee.

Either that or I need to put a cup holder on the side of my helmet.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 14, 2010, 03:08:54 AM
dont temp me I might try that.I am half red neck. :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 03:11:53 AM
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to sip some nice hot coffee while stopped at that traffic light?

All those people in their cars are doing it (when they're not texting or putting on their makeup).

Get your redneck half in gear blue - we need a prototype!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 03:18:15 AM
I tried to stifle the thought, but...I just HAVE to ask...

Hey, blue...What's the OTHER half?? :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 03:23:05 AM
I think this may be one of those questions that falls under the don't ask don't tell policy.

Or is that the you can't handle the truth policy?

Could go either way.   :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 14, 2010, 03:33:12 AM
country but sense I live in a trailer park I gues you could say trailer trash or dirty white boy.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 03:49:18 AM
I was gonna guess country. ;)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 14, 2010, 04:11:44 AM
ya born and raised on a big farm my dad raised horses and my grandpa raised hunting dogs.and rabbits
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 14, 2010, 04:21:07 AM
Farm living could be fun. I don't always wake up with the chickens these days, though.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 14, 2010, 11:58:36 PM
Damn it was cold this morning.

Scooter really didn't want to start at all. 

And it snowed - so now have a scooter (and scooter rider) covered in salt.

Tomorrow will be colder still...

My Christmas wish is for fuel injection...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 15, 2010, 12:50:32 AM
Dang...y'all are tough dealing with the dark, the cold, the snow and then salt that early in the morning!!

Is it a shame to be counting down the days until spring before winter has officially started? :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 15, 2010, 12:59:17 AM
Tough is one of the kinder labels people have used to describe me riding in this weather.

Most of the other labels include things like stupid, or crazy , or stupid crazy, and such.

Hoping at least the wind dies down for tomorrow.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 15, 2010, 01:27:17 AM
Here's some better words for ya:

Bold, Brave, Manly, Spirited, Gutsy

Yeah, that wind is rough. Had to chase my trash can again today.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 15, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Tomorrow morning I might have to pull out the secret weapon - the heat gun to carefully warm up the engine block so I can turn it over easier.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 15, 2010, 01:34:42 AM
LOL! Those heat guns are multi-purpose tools. Now I want one. :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 15, 2010, 01:38:53 AM
I think everyone should have one of them.

Of course, I borrowed this one from my neighbor.

I'll have to take care to make sure I aim it only at the metal parts!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 15, 2010, 01:46:02 AM
For sure...you don't need no melted plastics!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 15, 2010, 02:57:01 AM
a 100 watt light bulb is all you well need just keep it close the the scoot but yet far enough away that
something cant fall and hit the bulb. I have been doing that for a few years. its better then heating my shed and jumping my elc. bill up.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 15, 2010, 03:07:39 AM
Yeah, the bulb thing was my original plan since it sounded like a simple and effective idea.

But I discovered we don't have any good old fashioned bulbs here - all cfl and LED bulbs that just don't put out enough heat (or any heat in the case of LED). 

It was either the heat gun or the heating pad.

And the wife might need the heating pad so heat gun it is.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 15, 2010, 01:25:51 PM
I would becareful with the heat gun. try to pick up a small space heater then when you wana ride turn it on like a hour before to worm up scoot that works too. the only thing is if you park your scoot out side when you get to where you are going it well be hard to start anyways.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 15, 2010, 03:49:13 PM
Not to worry blue - I was careful with it. 

Wasn't a big deal, the air is so cold outside that it didn't even get that hot, but I think did help warm things up enough to make it a little easier to start.

You are right about starting it later in the day because it does sit out in the cold during the day as well.  Generally temps warm up enough during the day that the scoot will start easier in late afternoon than the morning.

It's those cold overnight hours that are the toughest.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 16, 2010, 12:07:21 AM
Warm spell here today...35 degrees! :D

Brrrr...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 16, 2010, 12:09:12 AM
28 here brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr need to go buy more light bulbs to keep scoot worm.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 16, 2010, 12:16:31 AM
I hear ya blue - we're looking at temps in the teens again tonight. 

I'm thinking a halogen work light might be the right amount of warmth.  I can put that sucker on a timer and have it go on a half hour before I want to start the scoot.

Like you said though, doesn't help me for getting it starter for the way home...

We're expecting a few inches of snow here tomorrow as well so I may have to get a long extension cord and use the heat gun to melt the snow in front of me as I ride.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 16, 2010, 12:49:57 AM
Talks of "Wintry Mix" and temps in teens tonight here! No scootin' for me for awhile...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 16, 2010, 12:54:20 AM
I'm just hoping temps will climb above the freezing mark sometime soon so I can wash the salt off the scoot.

Then again, with snow tomorrow and more possible on the weekend it probably isn't worth washing just yet.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 16, 2010, 12:57:33 AM
There's still salt out here from the last snow. :-\
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 16, 2010, 11:13:02 PM
Wow, so that was an interesting ride home tonight...

Weatherman was wrong about how much snow we were gonna get (what are the odds right?)  Ended up driving through about 2 inches of slush the whole way.

But props to those Avon tires - they held on better than I had expected. 

Still, was a white knuckle ride home for sure. 



Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 16, 2010, 11:46:01 PM
There's still salt out here from the last snow. :-\
throw some of that salt are way they dont do too good with that here.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 16, 2010, 11:50:50 PM
Glad ya made it home alright, oswaldters.

And glad to hear those Avon's are treatin' ya right in this mess! I'd like to get me some of those one day.

We got a bit of snow here, too, and the car slid all over the place on the way to the dentist and back today. At least there weren't many cars on the roads. Schools here are closed until Monday already. I feel for ya ridin' in that mess. Hope it warms up so your scoot will start up good and so this mess will be melted away soon.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 16, 2010, 11:53:10 PM
Sorry to hear it, blue. I hope all that snow melts and it warms up really fast so ya don't need no more salt. :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 16, 2010, 11:54:11 PM
Thanks Rianna,

I am happy to have made it through too.  Wasn't really difficult to handle the scoot in it, just took it slow and steady.

Still, wasn't a good decision to ride on my part.  

Not worth busting my a$$ or scooter...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 17, 2010, 12:17:18 AM
True. I should have stayed home today myself. I reckon sometimes we just do what we gotta do...
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 17, 2010, 02:56:02 AM
[ I reckon sometimes we just do what we gotta do...
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x 2 gota get to work some how.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 17, 2010, 03:21:01 AM
I know it.

Don't worry, blue.

Tough times don't last...Tough people do. ;)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on December 17, 2010, 03:28:02 AM
There's the attitude to have!

That's what keeps me getting on that scoot when it's 15 degrees out.  Besides, it only, 89 days to spring right?
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 17, 2010, 03:31:31 AM
There ya go! Bring on the positive attitude...and let that Countdown begin! ;D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: axy on December 17, 2010, 10:41:39 AM
-10 C this morning.
Nice cosy scooting to work.  ;D ;)
Weather forecast is snow storm that is about to begin now...

Btw. I think I will start a small project to make snow chains for People because I need them 3-4 days/year.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 17, 2010, 11:24:06 PM
-10 C! YIKES!! :o

I don't know how you do it, axy. I probably wouldn't make it a couple of blocks. :D You must be TOUGH!

I'm glad it's only 3-4 days a year for ya. :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 18, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
-10 C this morning.
Nice cosy scooting to work.  ;D ;)
Weather forecast is snow storm that is about to begin now...

Btw. I think I will start a small project to make snow chains for People because I need them 3-4 days/year.
   lol that remines me I made chaines out of a hard rubber robe ounce just wrap it in and around the tires and tied it off it lasted about 2 monthes befor it broke free. a good strong rope works too.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 18, 2010, 01:46:46 AM
Ha! That's it...you are blue McGuyver now! :D
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 18, 2010, 02:39:36 AM
lol that theam song is my ring tone. Love that show.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: greagle on December 23, 2010, 07:27:16 AM
Thanks for everyone sharing their winter riding threads.  I haven't posted much, but after riding through hit and miss slick spots tonight, I was looking to see what others do.  I did pass a scoot here on my way home and I waved, but I know we were both white knuckled.

I do agree with what others say when the people in cars are beside you, that you are either stupid crazy or are braver than them.  I don't have allot of options, so it is a mix of both.  This is my second winter on the Scoot and I have wised up allot. 

Here is a tip ... for those with full face helmets.  Using some cheap shaving cream, wipe it on your pull down visor and wipe it off to clear.  It will not fog up, however, if you leave your helmet in the 'trunk' in the cold, and it has time crystallize, then you are back to square one.

For work, I wipe it on about once every other day, my helmet stays in my trunk at work and I ride home almost full up, but the drive In is allot easier.  I guess I could take it in with me, but I don't for some reason.

Layering - I learned last year's winter (my first winter) - the best layering (for me) is two zip up hoodies, with a wind breaker.  The wind breaker is key.  I have less than 3/4" from me and the elements, but I never go cold.  Fingertips and knees get cold before upper body - which is for Gloves and Thermals.  Also under my helmet, I have a double layered ski mask.  Make sure to tuck that into the windbreaker to cover the front neck. 

Knock on wood for me, I have not laid down the scoot one time and have rode it everyday for almost 2 years.  Last year, though inexperienced as I was ended up in some awkward situations.  I describe it as riding a 10 speed bike across a frozen lake.  Today, I am looking 100 yards down the road at any given time.  At night, and I know you guys know, you rely on reflections of light on the road to determine if what you are coming up to is a frozen or slick part or just water.  So hard to determine that, so we slow down and be safer than sorry.

Also, I noticed with my Agility 50 is that you should start it everyday, even if you don't ride it.  When a first snow hits (this year), I go ahead and take the bus, because it is an option and I wait out the snow plows and salt trucks, but I still start it everyday and way until it idles.  This has worked for me in the sub-zero temperature to ensure it starts when I want it to.  Some days is a manual though.

I don't have a shed or garage to put mine in either, so make sure you have a cover for it.  Last year, I had allot of problems with water in the throttle handlebar and it was frozen.  I cover that more than anything. 

Thanks
ttys




Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 23, 2010, 12:44:42 PM
lot of good tips there I keep my scoot in a well coverd shed that I put a foam floor in just to help keep things worm and I keep a 100 watt light bulb next to works great just the right temp for easy starting.
I let run for about 20 min befor takeing off to work and just go slow and easy and stay farther away from cars as I can all ways leaving space for a longer stop.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: axy on December 23, 2010, 03:20:59 PM
lot of good tips there I keep my scoot in a well coverd shed that I put a foam floor in just to help keep things worm and I keep a 100 watt light bulb next to works great just the right temp for easy starting.
I let run for about 20 min befor takeing off to work and just go slow and easy and stay farther away from cars as I can all ways leaving space for a longer stop.

I understand that you have good intentions, but none of the above is necessary, especially not 20 min warm up in place.
I ride throughout the year, and keep the bikes outside (however, it rarely goes below freezing point here, maybe 30 days in a year).

p.s. Do you sing to it before it goes to sleep? :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Gooner_1993 on December 23, 2010, 05:29:22 PM
Everyone who rides in winter is gonna get bloody freezing ... my adive get some gloves to go under some biker gloves extra warmth as if you dont have hand covers they wull get the coldest quickest and will be uncomfortable ...

Jackets put 1 or 2 hoodies under a proper jacket this wil keep you insulated...

socks wear some thermal socks or something as the breeze will go up your trousers (Jeans) ect

Hats put a hat on under the helmet i do this myself .... and when you put a scarf on if it is a full face helmet or what ever rap the scarf round your face chin and nose and tighten it if you do this you will have no complaints about the cold

Happy Riding :)
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on December 23, 2010, 10:30:47 PM
Welcome to the forum, greagle and Gooner_1993!
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on December 24, 2010, 03:28:18 AM
I understand that you have good intentions, but none of the above is necessary, especially not 20 min warm up in place.
I ride throughout the year, and keep the bikes outside (however, it rarely goes below freezing point here, maybe 30 days in a year).

p.s. Do you sing to it before it goes to sleep? :)  lol ya I sing that song life is the highway to it.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: greagle on December 24, 2010, 05:57:29 AM
Thanks, glad to be here - I have been snooping around and wow, I am out of my league on this site.  I don't understand allot of the terminology that you use.  I will learn though.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on January 02, 2011, 11:25:18 PM
 :o  O my all this salt on my scoot all I neeed now is some pepper and a few seasonings and a hot grill
and Ill have a good scooter Dinner.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on January 03, 2011, 01:43:39 AM
my ride this morning.was dran cold.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on January 03, 2011, 01:55:36 AM
Yeah, you can't avoid the salt around here either.

Which is why I'll be going with the LeoVince exhaust come spring.  That won't rust out like the OEM.

My OEM exhaust rusted out over the last couple of winters.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on January 03, 2011, 02:13:36 AM
I can see that happening to mine soon.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on January 03, 2011, 02:24:38 AM
I figure the LeoVince isn't going to cost that much more than the OEM replacement.

And it will look much nicer too.

Next will be the rear shock which is also rusting out fast.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: Rianna on January 03, 2011, 03:36:40 AM
Yeah, seems like paying a little more for the exhaust that won't rust should save you money and the hassle of replacing the OEM exhaust every couple of years because of the salt damage.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on January 03, 2011, 03:45:08 AM
wow osw better get your self a can of rust remover lol.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on January 03, 2011, 04:37:29 AM
I probably should blue

my scoot gets to slog it out through all weather conditions so it takes a beating.

Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: blue on January 03, 2011, 08:33:56 PM
I know what you mean Im hopeing not to spend to much on my scoot this year.
tough times for everyone. I realy need to save my muffler for one more seanson I might wrap it with something. but that well not stop the rust.
Title: Re: winter rideing
Post by: oswaldters on January 03, 2011, 11:02:05 PM
Depending on the amount of rust, you could sand down the rusty areas and spray paint it with some high temperature paint.

That would keep it going for a fair amount of time.