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Scooters - 125 to 300 => Downtown 300 => Topic started by: Nireen on May 24, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
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I just talked to the dealer who got me my bike back in 2016 and I explained my RPM situation and he assured me not to stress over it as it won't hurt my bike. Like I say it was like this from the start. He thinks the wrong belt may have been put on it and this is reason for the top speed lowering.
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(Echo...echo...echooo!)
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Nonsense! Yes, don't stress over it but do fix the problem, as your engine will wear prematurely and your gasoline bill will increase. A wrong size belt (too long or too narrow) will cause the problem.
My experience with dealers is that they will tell you whatever it takes to get rid of you and your problem, or to make money from it.
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Nonsense! Yes, don't stress over it but do fix the problem, as your engine will wear prematurely and your gasoline bill will increase. A wrong size belt (too long or too narrow) will cause the problem.
My experience with dealers is that they will tell you whatever it takes to get rid of you and your problem, or to make money from it.
Oh boy you guys are not telling me what I wanna hear!!! LOL! Thanks I am taking it in Monday Morning to fix it. I will make sure they make sure the belt is the right fit.
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Nonsense! Yes, don't stress over it but do fix the problem, as your engine will wear prematurely and your gasoline bill will increase. A wrong size belt (too long or too narrow) will cause the problem.
My experience with dealers is that they will tell you whatever it takes to get rid of you and your problem, or to make money from it.
Yeah talked to a trusted mechanic and he said yes it is running to high and said it is likely my clutch and or belt. He said the clutch may need rebuilt or replaced!?
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What Stuo said X2! Investigate the belt first. As long as the clutch is operating normally, leave it. Read the numbers off the belt if possible. Measure carefully if numbers are not readable.
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What Stuo said X2! Investigate the belt first. As long as the clutch is operating normally, leave it. Read the numbers off the belt if possible. Measure carefully if numbers are not readable.
what should the numbers be Karl? size belt?
I may not get any trips in this year by the way it is going here for me. I was evicted yesterday from my apartment all because of a post on facebook that someone decided to show my landlord of me saying to my friends I need to find a place to live cause I am very sick here in this moldy apartment. He got mad!!! told me to leave by July 1st. :( I never said a thing bad toward him or his name or anything. Not a thing. Frig! :( the worse of it all there is nothing out there to rent. It has been so bad here for about 4 years with this rent situation. Sigh. I just want to get on my bike and go. But I can't :)
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I just ordered a belt from these guys for my DT 300i:
http://www.madhornets.com/drive-belt-for-kymco-downtown-300-350-shadow-gti300-k-xct-nikita-kawasaki-j300-black/ (http://www.madhornets.com/drive-belt-for-kymco-downtown-300-350-shadow-gti300-k-xct-nikita-kawasaki-j300-black/)
According to the diagram of their belt the circumference around the outside of the belt is 103 centimeters and the width is 25 millimeters.
So sorry to read about your land lord problems.
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Last belt I put in a DT300i was a Mitsuboshi 1004 x 25 x 30 = 1004 mm circumference, 25 mm wide, 30 degree angle.
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Order Genuine Kymco replacement belt from Kymco dealer=should work well--just make sure you order for your model!
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Absolutely get a Kymco belt. It will be a Mitsuboshi like I described.
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100% get a genuine Kymco/Mitsuboshi belt
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Last belt I put in a DT300i was a Mitsuboshi 1004 x 25 x 30 = 1004 mm circumference, 25 mm wide, 30 degree angle.
Thank you!
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Tell me something if I take the cover off to see the belt should I be able to see the numbers size etc so i can check this myself.
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Tried can't see a thing :P
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Then do some measuring....
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I just replaced my sliders and I am now cruising at 60km/h at 3000rpm. Feels weird.
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Then do some measuring....
If I do this test and put the camera on it will this be enough to tell you how it maybe working or not working?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIYBYekbPI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIYBYekbPI)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25tuxutT2ik (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25tuxutT2ik)
Awesome video for me!! Now I know what your all talkin about! :) I need visuals.
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Yup, that's it! Yours work that way?
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what should the numbers be Karl? size belt?
I may not get any trips in this year by the way it is going here for me. I was evicted yesterday from my apartment all because of a post on facebook that someone decided to show my landlord of me saying to my friends I need to find a place to live cause I am very sick here in this moldy apartment. He got mad!!! told me to leave by July 1st. :( I never said a thing bad toward him or his name or anything. Not a thing. Frig! :( the worse of it all there is nothing out there to rent. It has been so bad here for about 4 years with this rent situation. Sigh. I just want to get on my bike and go. But I can't :)
You find another place yet?
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You find another place yet?
No Karl and it is very bad here to find a place. The past 3 or 4 years there is basically no rents. We have the Chinese moving into PEI daily and they are buying out everything and kicking us all out! :) I am pretty overwhelmed with this right now I tell ya. I am selling most of my stuff (which isn't much) and becoming as minimum as I can get here.
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That sucks. Maybe time to up anchor and relocate...BC? Yukon? Get a green card and pick somewhere here in US. Naturalize if you like it...gotta be somewhere the winters are not so brutal.
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Dang Kat! - sorry to hear of this.
I had to look up "PEI" to see what we were talking about.
Living on a big 'ol island out there in the N Atlantic! --- do you put your scooter on a ferry to get to the mainland very often?
Anyway - talking with my street gang in my little coffee village I've learned that the wealthy have moved heavily into this quirky little town as well. House prices are crazy - apt rents are priced like house payments. Rentals are gone by the time they're listed in the paper - you have to know someone to find a place.
They tell me that there is a lot of "couch surfing" going on. Young singles or couples staying with friends who have an apt - sleeping on couches or the floor. With many young people hammered by college debt there is little extra $ sometimes. A LOT of youngsters moving back to live with their folks.
Don't know your income or financial situation - but maybe you can bunk with some friends - or relatives, until things look better for you?
Well, as Red Green used to say - "You don't want to argue with anyone larger than your van!" No, wait - that's not it.
Anyway - hang in there and know that you have a whole gang of Gringos down here pulling for you up there!
Stig
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Yes, Tennessee was the LAST place on earth I ever expected to toss down my sea bag but it has a lot going for it: no state income tax, lotsa little settlements way in the sticks or even near big toens like Nashvile (where they have TWO Kymco dealers!) and lots of twisty roads. Alabama, too! Winters that are tolerable and the Deep South has a charm to it. Plus there is the Gulf Coast 8 hours south from anywhere in TN. Summers are hot and humid but much better in East TN at higher elevations...
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I just replaced my sliders and I am now cruising at 60km/h at 3000rpm. Feels weird.
Wow just saw this. That is very different from me. 60km for me is like 6000rpm. Yeah my bike always feels like it is pushing really hard and it is.
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Dang Kat! - sorry to hear of this.
I had to look up "PEI" to see what we were talking about.
Living on a big 'ol island out there in the N Atlantic! --- do you put your scooter on a ferry to get to the mainland very often?
Anyway - talking with my street gang in my little coffee village I've learned that the wealthy have moved heavily into this quirky little town as well. House prices are crazy - apt rents are priced like house payments. Rentals are gone by the time they're listed in the paper - you have to know someone to find a place.
They tell me that there is a lot of "couch surfing" going on. Young singles or couples staying with friends who have an apt - sleeping on couches or the floor. With many young people hammered by college debt there is little extra $ sometimes. A LOT of youngsters moving back to live with their folks.
Don't know your income or financial situation - but maybe you can bunk with some friends - or relatives, until things look better for you?
Well, as Red Green used to say - "You don't want to argue with anyone larger than your van!" No, wait - that's not it.
Anyway - hang in there and know that you have a whole gang of Gringos down here pulling for you up there!
Stig
Ha no Stig we have that 13 km bridge now! I can do the ferry as well but don't need to. LOL funny with the Red Green thing. I appreciate all your kindness and support. I am scared. It isn't so easy for me to do what you suggested oh boy if ya only knew. :)
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Yes, Tennessee was the LAST place on earth I ever expected to toss down my sea bag but it has a lot going for it: no state income tax, lotsa little settlements way in the sticks or even near big toens like Nashvile (where they have TWO Kymco dealers!) and lots of twisty roads. Alabama, too! Winters that are tolerable and the Deep South has a charm to it. Plus there is the Gulf Coast 8 hours south from anywhere in TN. Summers are hot and humid but much better in East TN at higher elevations...
Hey Karl, sounds all good but not so simple for me. I have no or very little money. Have been sick for years with food and chemical sensitivities that cause me to collapse with no life force when I disrespect Kat's rules lol. I was dying but I reversed alot but I still suffer and must be careful. Stigs suggestions to go live with someone is a nightmare on me cause I have to have my sleeping space free of just about everything. I need Karl to be in a warm place with my tent I would be very happy gal. I don't need anything the world has to offer as far as material things except my art stuff and bike and tent :D The rest I am not interested. I just want to be free. I need out of this toxic moldy place asap. Where I go it is always a huge worry cause I know how sensitive I am.
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I am preparing to do my test making a video for you all to see. Tell me that paper thingy lol sorry is hiding the back part of the belt can I just take that off and not worry about it. I doubt if I remove it I can get it back on. I want to be able to see the belt more. Or maybe I don't need to remove it to see what this thing is doing?
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How high to I need to rev it before I see movement? Just had it reving 5000 rpm and nothing moving from what I see.
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That sucks. Maybe time to up anchor and relocate...BC? Yukon? Get a green card and pick somewhere here in US. Naturalize if you like it...gotta be somewhere the winters are not so brutal.
Please see my video. I reved it to 5000rpm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2NITOou7w&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2NITOou7w&feature=youtu.be)
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Please see my video and I reved it to about 5000 rpm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2NITOou7w&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2NITOou7w&feature=youtu.be)
Dang Kat! - sorry to hear of this.
I had to look up "PEI" to see what we were talking about.
Living on a big 'ol island out there in the N Atlantic! --- do you put your scooter on a ferry to get to the mainland very often?
Anyway - talking with my street gang in my little coffee village I've learned that the wealthy have moved heavily into this quirky little town as well. House prices are crazy - apt rents are priced like house payments. Rentals are gone by the time they're listed in the paper - you have to know someone to find a place.
They tell me that there is a lot of "couch surfing" going on. Young singles or couples staying with friends who have an apt - sleeping on couches or the floor. With many young people hammered by college debt there is little extra $ sometimes. A LOT of youngsters moving back to live with their folks.
Don't know your income or financial situation - but maybe you can bunk with some friends - or relatives, until things look better for you?
Well, as Red Green used to say - "You don't want to argue with anyone larger than your van!" No, wait - that's not it.
Anyway - hang in there and know that you have a whole gang of Gringos down here pulling for you up there!
Stig
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Please see my video. I reved it to 5000rpm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2NITOou7w&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d2NITOou7w&feature=youtu.be)
Now, THERE is your problem! Inspect front pulley.
Why two videos? Is this the latest video? Where it does not move...
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Hey Kat!
I have an extra bedroom...and three extra scooters.
And I'm in sunny California!
Can you cook?
Stu
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Why two videos? Is this the latest video? Where it does not move...
Hey Karl, no this was the very first video where I only rivved it up to 5000 rpm and stopped it. We see no movement with that rpm. Next videos I went up to 7000 rpm and a little higher.
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Hey Kat!
I have an extra bedroom...and three extra scooters.
And I'm in sunny California!
Can you cook?
Stu
Ha Ha Ha Ha, No I eat raw food! I clean you cook. :D Oh my all the scoots I want in California!! So tempting!
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Hey Kat!
I have an extra bedroom...and three extra scooters.
And I'm in sunny California!
Can you cook?
Stu
I am a good cook when it is for someone I really like :D
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An' Stu ain't it!
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Gee, thanks a lot, Karl.
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wish I was closer to you , I feel I could fix that in 15 min. I t has to be the ramp has lost its, teeth, or the front ( outside ) pulley is slipping loss of teeth again,
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wish I was closer to you , I feel I could fix that in 15 min. I t has to be the ramp has lost its, teeth, or the front ( outside ) pulley is slipping loss of teeth again,
Oh how I wish to!! I am wanting so bad to find someone who would kinda take me under their wing and teach me!! I am so into learning how to do all t his myself but I feel a little intimidated to dive in on my own. Cause I know things are never as simple as it seems. I have to find out what the belt number is on the scoot and the rollers now and compare to what you all have told me. Cause if it isn't those things and it appears to be moving properly than???
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I just replaced my sliders and I am now cruising at 60km/h at 3000rpm. Feels weird.
What did you get Mouse? Weight etc?
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Ok just replaced my sliders, now 4500rpm @60km/h (normal for me).
New sliders were slightly too large, causing the variator to stick. I had to file them down a bit so they would move freely in the variator. This caused the unusual 3000rpm @70km/h issue.
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Ok just replaced my sliders, now 4500rpm @60km/h (normal for me).
New sliders were slightly too large, causing the variator to stick. I had to file them down a bit so they would move freely in the variator. This caused the unusual 3000rpm @70km/h issue.
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Sounds like mine is like yours than. What is the RPM at say 100km/h
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Still no top-speed like I use to have. I get reach 75 mile per hour and that is it. I use to do easy 85. New filter K&N New heavier rollers (better rpm) when I reached 75 mile this morning it was maxed out 8000 rpm.
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Who was it that said they get there bike up to 160km/h!!!! how do they do that!
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steep downhill with the wind at your back or get a bigger scooter, even my Piaggio b v 350 is electrically cut off at 85 MPH, with power to spare,. Alex at scooter west .com has modified his for 100 MPH. the manual warns us not to go to fast with windshield and top box on the scooter,. on my trip to east coast I went over 160 Kmph,. with no bad feeling with scooter, with wind shield and large top box,. just for short runs, I allways stick to the speed limits on long trips, or ride with the flow of traffic,.
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Now this thread is really getting interesting. I always thought scooters are only for people who like cruising at mild speed but I clearly got it all wrong lol
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Yeah, and De dee is like Burt Monroe, he is over 80 and still rides the World's Fastest Indian! Har har!
(I can razz him 'cause I'm 78!)
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Now this thread is really getting interesting. I always thought scooters are only for people who like cruising at mild speed but I clearly got it all wrong lol
Ha Ha Yes I am mild and always slow intown and always stay far back from everyone watching every move everyone makes but I tell ya when I hit the highway I like to open it up in safe areas and if I am passing which has to happen at times I like to have the leverage if need be!! zoom zoom! :D
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Yeah, and De dee is like Burt Monroe, he is over 80 and still rides the World's Fastest Indian! Har har!
(I can razz him 'cause I'm 78!)
Ah I love wiser gentleman who have gone the distance. High respect. :D Bless you always...
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did a little run on 5the 401 highway about 100 km. followed the cars at 120 to 140 km.s my tach. read 6000 rpm to 6500.rpm. at 120 kmph. that is with the modifiyed variator I filed 5 years ago., not bad for a couple of hours work, with the variator out of the scooter, with no cost,. except for the belt file I bought , 1/2 " wide just right size for the variator ,. I found out it is what malossi speed variator does with there units, they must have coppied my work, HA HA
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did a little run on 5the 401 highway about 100 km. followed the cars at 120 to 140 km.s my tach. read 6000 rpm to 6500.rpm. at 120 kmph. that is with the modifiyed variator I filed 5 years ago., not bad for a couple of hours work, with the variator out of the scooter, with no cost,. except for the belt file I bought , 1/2 " wide just right size for the variator ,. I found out it is what malossi speed variator does with there units, they must have coppied my work, HA HA
Ha Ha yes. I am now about 6500 rpm at 120km's :D
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:D ;D ;D ;D
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Still no top-speed like I use to have. I get reach 75 mile per hour and that is it. I use to do easy 85. New filter K&N New heavier rollers (better rpm) when I reached 75 mile this morning it was maxed out 8000 rpm.
I watched your video. Variators don't seem to be opening and closing it might be a good idea to dissemble and recheck everything and maybe just replace the belt if the existing one is the correct size you could label the date & miles and save it. Also, at around 18K I had to take off my rear variator and regrease it because it wouldn't disengage into neutral it was dragging like I was still in gear when I came to a stop.
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I have not been impressed by your "mechanics," Kat. They should have found the problem by now or at least, eliminated the many suggestions on here. I had a ride on the freeway/motorway/interstate today and 60 mph = 6000 rpm, 65 mph = 6200 rpm and 70 mph = 6500 rpm. I think that is what I have been seeing since 2013 on this model. 'Course this is all a repeat of what has been posted. I think MrBios has a good point. Your mechs/techs need to listen to him.