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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on January 25, 2019, 11:47:04 PM
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After 5 years, removed wheel from my LIKE200i last year for a new Michelin - spent 2 hours cleaning things up. Metal not looking too bad.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yqf8BQ0k/0000.jpg)
After two years of ownership - a Burgman 400. (N0, never ran it in salt)
Very disappointing!
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwRSCMhz/000burr.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKghjWs8/000burrr.jpg)
Why can't scooter manufacturers put a better finish on the engine case & parts?!
Motorcycle owners don't have to put up with corrosion this bad & this quick.
I present this Honda's engine:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGcFwXgD/0000honda.jpg)
And a real life pic of my son's Honda taken today - same age as the above Burgman:
(https://i.postimg.cc/SK8fV9ww/P1020496.jpg)
Motorcycles cost more, you say? Burgman's are not cheap! I believe the Suzuki Burgman and the Honda CB500X sold for about the same price.
Anyway, after seeing the condition my Burgman was in, I replaced a few items with stainless fittings - and discovered ACF-50 and applied it liberally to all our two wheelers.
Do not regret selling the Burgman - for the same $ could have had a nice, bigger, motorcycle.
(replacing a chain and sprocket on an R6 is no harder than replacing a belt on a Burgman)
Stig
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Wow Stig! Those bolts are just about gone! I hate to say it but maybe swap those out for stainless. Now a days, bikes come with aluminum bolts to save weight and money but it hurts us in the end.
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Wow Stig! Those bolts are just about gone! I hate to say it but maybe swap those out for stainless. Now a days, bikes come with aluminum bolts to save weight and money but it hurts us in the end.
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See post again...I did replace with stainless.
Crazy.
Stig
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Oh crap! Okay I went through the read fast. Sorry.
Stainless already, okay now I’m stumped.
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Ever heard of gunk? That is the way we used to clean engines on motorcycles----Last time I bought it, was at Fleet Farm in WI---cut with Diesel, brushed on, off with low pressure water, get rid of unwanted grease/crud. Also leaves some protection on metal.
Both my Burgman 400's, cases remained clean looking in spite of once in awhile road salt.
Right now I use WalMart engine cleaner, kinda does same thing.
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I’ve used this on everything from my VWs to small plane motors and it will slow the process.
https://boeshield.com/automotive-motorcycle/
As far as stainless fasteners on cast metal, not always the best idea. Could end up with the case getting eaten away.
https://galvanizeit.org/design-and-fabrication/design-considerations/dissimilar-metals-in-contact
AMAC
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looks to me Burgman oil filter cover was never off.
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I’ve used this on everything from my VWs to small plane motors and it will slow the process.
https://boeshield.com/automotive-motorcycle/
As far as stainless fasteners on cast metal, not always the best idea. Could end up with the case getting eaten away.
https://galvanizeit.org/design-and-fabrication/design-considerations/dissimilar-metals-in-contact
AMAC
Thanks for the info AMAC.
Good enough for Boeing....shoul be good on a scoot.
As far as having installed a few stainless bits on the Burgman....I'm emailing your info to the fellow I sold it to. He only rides all over the Portland area and the dry Northwest, so....he might want to go back to Suzy parts!😊
Still learnin' here --- Stig
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looks to me Burgman oil filter cover was never off.
Checked my records...owned for exactly 24 months, sold at @6,200 miles - 4 oil and filter changes....(using OEM oil & filter) not counting the one I did before it was shipped to Portland, Oregon. (had the Suzy oil and parts - so, why not)
Stig
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Yeah, was going to mention that about stainless in aluminum. Gotta use antiseize!
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Ever heard of gunk? That is the way we used to clean engines on motorcycles----Last time I bought it, was at Fleet Farm in WI---cut with Diesel, brushed on, off with low pressure water, get rid of unwanted grease/crud. Also leaves some protection on metal.
Both my Burgman 400's, cases remained clean looking in spite of once in awhile road salt.
Right now I use WalMart engine cleaner, kinda does same thing.
Gunk: old, original diluted with diesel. What color was gunk in the can before you diluted it? I seem to recall Dad using Gunk on his flat-head 74 cu. in. Harley being very dark brown if not black with that WONDERFUL smell! I also recall Gunk changing from dark, syrup-like to light, amber-greenish with a slightly different smell. No dilution required. But, hey! I'm old! What do I know!