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Title: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 17, 2019, 02:59:30 AM: I just bought a 2018 UXV 450i. The manual gives many options on motor oil weights. I live in Ky, so it gets cold but not bitter. Any suggestions as far as oil weight? Should I use Synthetic? Just wanna make sure Iâ€™m taking care of my machine the best I can. Thanks for any help.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: airshot on January 17, 2019, 10:24:51 AM: Welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy your 450i as much as I have mine. If it is new then my recomendation is two regular oil changes first. First change at 100 miles then second change around 200-250 miles. Then switch over to full syn. Many oil debates out there, I just use 5-w40 Rotella T6 . Very popular oil for atv and motorcycles. Factory OK this oil.
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 17, 2019, 12:27:56 PM: Thanks for the info. Iâ€™ve worked for Valvoline for 29 years, so I better their ATV oil. Gotta ride for the brand ya know... I will switch to synthetic after my first two oil changes.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: airshot on January 17, 2019, 03:42:27 PM: You will be fine with that oil, I have used there oil for many years in my cars and trucks. You can use any weight of syn from 5-30 to 5-40 as long as they are wet clutch compatible. Yes there is an internal centrifigal clutch so be sure the oil is compatible.
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: souzamoto on January 17, 2019, 07:08:55 PM: The manual shows what viscosity oil to use based on the temperature. pick one.
degrees F:
10 to 45 - 5w
10 to 90 - 10/30
10 to 115 - 10/40
20 to 115 - 20/40
20 to 120 - 20/50
API service SJ or higher
cjs
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 17, 2019, 07:32:03 PM: Thanks man. Oh, and thanks again for letting me know about this forum.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: randyo on January 17, 2019, 08:21:51 PM: I have noticed that Rotella 0w40 is finally available locally, used to be exclusive to Canada & Alaska, but they finally realized that is dips below zero in the lower 48 as well

It was -8Â°f this morning when I was out doing chores with my 450i
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 17, 2019, 08:46:19 PM: Goodness gracious! Thatâ€™s cold! Weâ€™ve got single digits in the forecast. Looking forward to seeing how the 450 does in the cold weather.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: airshot on January 17, 2019, 10:12:49 PM: Different oil weights are not as critical with a synthetic oil. Due to the superior ability of synthetic to maintain stability no matter wha the temp. Many folks use 0- 40 all year round even summer heat with no issues . Unless you live in the desert where temps can be well over 100 degrees a 5- 40 full syn will suit from -20 to 100 degree summer heat and still have better protection than any dino oil. Syn oil is designed for temp extremes. With dino oil it becomes more critical to match temp to oil weight. To answer your cold temp question, my 450i has saw temps of -12 degrees and have had no issues and temps of 102 in the summer when the black seat gets to hot to sit on and still performs well. Like everything else, all functions get stiff in the cold temps! I will say the notchy shifter problems got better after switching to syn oil..so keep that in mind
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 18, 2019, 12:40:49 AM: Thanks for all the info guys. I appreciate the knowledge.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: randyo on January 18, 2019, 03:54:45 PM: Quote from: Aggie on January 17, 2019, 08:46:19 PM
Goodness gracious! Thatâ€™s cold! Weâ€™ve got single digits in the forecast. Looking forward to seeing how the 450 does in the cold weather.

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I've gone out on my motorcycle, a V-strom 1000, in temps as cold as -25Â°f, only reason I haven't been out colder is cause we haven't had colder weather where I'm at.

Cold Air = Free horsepower
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 18, 2019, 03:56:06 PM: Youâ€™re outside your mind!

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: CROSSBOLT on January 18, 2019, 04:19:39 PM: Yes, he is! Har, har!
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: airshot on January 23, 2019, 01:26:11 PM: We hit -10 degrees yesterday morning and it was hard shifting with 5wt syn oil, but after fully warm the shifting was much easier. Hate to see how hard it would have shifted with dino oil in her! Syn oil makes a big differenc under extreme conditions whether heat or cold!
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 23, 2019, 01:49:12 PM: Quote from: airshot on January 23, 2019, 01:26:11 PM
We hit -10 degrees yesterday morning and it was hard shifting with 5wt syn oil, but after fully warm the shifting was much easier. Hate to see how hard it would have shifted with dino oil in her! Syn oil makes a big differenc under extreme conditions whether heat or cold!
Installed RedLine in my VW Vanagon ......sure made a big difference shifting on cold New England mornings!
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 23, 2019, 01:54:33 PM: Iâ€™m definitely going with a full synthetic oil.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: randyo on January 23, 2019, 05:32:16 PM: Quote from: Stig on January 23, 2019, 01:49:12 PM
Installed RedLine in my VW Vanagon ......sure made a big difference shifting on cold New England mornings!

the Vanagon I had leaked so much from the pushrod tubes, I bought fleet grade dino by the 5 gallon pail , still miss it though
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 23, 2019, 05:46:44 PM: Restored those VW Vanagonâ€™s still sell for pretty good money.

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Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on January 23, 2019, 10:12:10 PM: Quote from: randyo on January 23, 2019, 05:32:16 PM
the Vanagon I had leaked so much from the pushrod tubes, I bought fleet grade dino by the 5 gallon pail , still miss it though
I kept the watercooled Vanagon for 21 years - my only regret was that the sunroof models and the red ones were gone from the dealers, docks, and ships by the time I scraped enough $ together to buy a new one.
My orange/cream aircooled one drank like a Buick and had the pick-up of a toddler dragging a couch. Kept it one year. Shoulda bought the Champagne Ed. baywindow beside it on the dealer floor. Same engine, cheaper, less weight.
All-time fav. VW's were the newish baywindow I owned after Vietnam and a white base model Rabbit in the mid 70's.

Stig
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: airshot on January 23, 2019, 10:54:31 PM: Extreme conditions is where syn oils shine. They flow better at cold temps and lubericate better under high heat. A 0w-30 syn oil gives better protection in heat rhan a 20w-50 dino oil. Syn oil is more slippery and flows into tiney spaces better than dino oil. If you ride in moderate conditions then dino oil is fine. But under any extreme conditions the syn oil is better protection!
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: randyo on January 24, 2019, 06:07:52 PM: Quote from: Aggie on January 23, 2019, 05:46:44 PM
Restored those VW Vanagonâ€™s still sell for pretty good money.

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mine was a '81/'82 last year of air cooled, I like the ergonomics. what I'd really like, a split windshield double cab transporter pickup ........with a gas heater, I had a gas heater in my Vanagon, a timer so I could warm the bus without starting the engine. A friend riding in the passenger seat with a youth hockey team in back on one -25Â°f night says to me, "geez, that's just like having a wood stove in here" although my summer time fuel economy of 25Â± would dip to as low as 6
Title: Re: Oil Weight
Post by: Aggie on January 24, 2019, 07:17:34 PM: Never heard of a vehicle with a gas heater.

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