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Title: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 06, 2010, 01:06:09 AM
OK, so I tried the Harbor Freight 1/2" drive corded impact and it wouldn't budge,

Next recommendation Please!

I have new tires coming tomorrow and gotta get this axle nut off to get the wheel off.

HELP.

BTW getn the Avons you guys seem so fond of,  ;D
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: wordslinger on August 06, 2010, 01:11:37 AM
..ok so, hold th brake..

..use a 1/2" drive ratchet, or a pull-bar..even better.. and put a 18" piece of pipe over the ratchet's handle...

..get a lil more torque on it and it'll come a'loose...


 ;D
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 06, 2010, 01:43:43 AM
I had my G/F sitting on it and holding both brakes and I was using a 1/2" breaker bar, I was just shocked the 1/2" impact from HF wouldn't budge it, she ain't but maybe 112lbs.

Makes me think the quality is a tad les then the 240ft/lbs they advertise. I mean the lug nut son my Civic are on at 80ft/lbs,

Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: art on August 06, 2010, 03:00:07 AM
  They seem to go a little nuts  ;D at the factory on those damned things A bigger bar and a hammer to break it loose Usually will do it, if not try some pb blaster or = to help free it up. You will find lots of uses for your driver Almost a must have for your scoot. May want to lube that axle when you get it apart should keep it from happening again. I've noticed they are pretty stingy with the grease on most the kymco's i've owned.
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 06, 2010, 03:08:05 AM
Thanks again art, I was laying the PB blaster to it liberally and man it kept soaking it in and soaking it in, My g/f is pretty sure she'll come off tomorrow as I was shocked how much PB blaster I used and it wasn't dripping off.

I'lll have my new tires tomorrow night after I get outta work, can't wait to try it again, I don't mind using my breaker bar however there isn't a nice way to brace the wheel w/out the fear of damaging the wheel itself.

Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: art on August 06, 2010, 03:12:39 AM
Ha! It sometimes literally takes a bigger hammer to get the job done. You'll love the viper stykes good all round tire.
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Hoolander2 on August 06, 2010, 03:48:21 AM
I put one foot on the breaker bar and put all my weight on it.  Even have to jump on it a little.  Then Pow she breaks loose. 
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: thebatman on August 06, 2010, 10:52:52 AM
makes me wonder if its been around any salt water, being so tough..... its corrosion id say, i cant believe it didnt break with a impact..harbour frieght does sell several DIFFERENT types pf impacts, maybe you have the weakest one
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 06, 2010, 11:18:22 AM
Naw, no salt water, and yes it has me wondering if the Harbor Freight 1/2" impact is really a 240 ft/lbs machine.

If I can't remove it tonight I'm gonna see if it will take off a lug nut on the car.

I am hoping all the PB Blacter I soaked into it is working wonders right now and it'll come free tonight,

Thanks for the info guys,

Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: thebatman on August 06, 2010, 02:17:24 PM
itll come off tonight... i have a i.r impact but that one should break it loose(unless someone before you messed it up).. no disrespect at all,   but you are turning the correct way, right?!?!...lmao
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 06, 2010, 03:27:01 PM
Oh yeah,

10 years as a service advisor for Honda/Acura and BMW. I tripple checked the threads and it's normal right hand on/ left hand off,

Even tried to impact it on and off, trick from the car world that sometimes works.

I really hope the PB works itself in there and gets the job done.  :(

Or I have to try and wrap a motorcycle style tie down around one wheel spoke and the actual CVT and tighten it down and sit behind it and force this thing off with the braekr bar and pipe ext on it, MAN it's work... ::)
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Hoolander2 on August 06, 2010, 04:24:31 PM
Could you back it up against a firm wall?  Put on side stand, then tie the rear brake lever tight with rope or tape, then use breaker  bar? 
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 06, 2010, 07:12:17 PM
Rear brake is kind of useless as it's a drum brake  :D

I'll let you know what it takes to get it loose!!!
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: sidthesloth on August 06, 2010, 11:29:24 PM
I thimk you should get it by having someone sitting on the scoot and holding both brakes and using the breakeq bar, just takes some persistence. Otherwise, the impact wrench should get it, though give it some time. I may seem like it is not working but is very slowly breaking the lock. I had the same problem when I replaced the drive shafts on my wifes car earlier this year. when I took the rear wheel off my scoot I managed with the bar (and my wife on the scoot holding the brakes.
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 07, 2010, 12:30:16 AM
Well, it came loose tonight with the Harbor Freight 1/2" impact, guess the PB Blaster I laid to it soaked in enough to work.



Whew...

Now comes the hard part and thats getting the rubber off and the new rubber on...


Before I started...
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e116/Greenbean_2008/IMG00007-20100806-1850.jpg)

Went with the Avons as the local dealer got em for me next day for 98 bucks...
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e116/Greenbean_2008/IMG00008-20100806-1850.jpg)

Finally got it off!!!
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e116/Greenbean_2008/IMG00009-20100806-1853.jpg)



 
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: wordslinger on August 07, 2010, 01:44:48 AM
...you're gonna >>LOVE<< those frikin' tires greenbean.....

..same as mine on my suped-up a50!!...  ;D

..they stick like glue, and seem to wear not at all...

..best tire i've ever bought for ANY type of vehicle...

 :D
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 07, 2010, 04:46:05 AM
I tried to remove the tire tonight and am pretty upset w/myself, I put some bad scratches and took some paint off the lip of the rim, inner edge only,

I gotta get some rim protectors and the special tire irons with the bend in them,

Pics to follow afterwards, I wanted to throw up after I saw what I did thinking the rag between the metal and the paint would be sufficient.

 :'(
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: art on August 07, 2010, 04:50:29 AM
  Damn! Lots of soapy water and some cardboard Will usually do it. The bends do help.
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: Greenbean on August 10, 2010, 09:12:18 PM
I am getting rim protectors tomorrow,

I will let you guys know and post a pic of the damage also,

I am waiting on a call back from the local Kymco dealer on touch-up paint, LOL...
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: TechGuy on August 22, 2010, 04:36:10 AM
Too late to help... but wouldn't a piece of a 2x4 lumber, placed in the the spoke of the wheel and a short screwdriver or Allen key placed in one of the holes inside of the the clutch bell hold everything in place?  Wood would press up against cvt housing and the metal in the clutch would hold all the drive components still.

just an idea.
Title: Re: Need help with Super9 A/C rear axle nut!!!
Post by: blue on August 22, 2010, 05:27:11 PM
I took my tire off with some big clamps and layed a small piece of wood in between each one
it did all right just a few scratches a little flat black paint well touch it up good.