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Title: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 18, 2018, 02:59:45 AM
Hi Everyone,

Just changed my oil today and noticed that the underside of the crank case and engine is coated in an black oily dirty mix. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this, the scoot seems to be performing normally and generally I put about 150 miles on it a week. On the last oil change I didn't notice this build-up, but prior to that had noticed the shop overfilled the oil on the bike and upon changing the air filter after a dirty NYC winter of riding noticed some oil in the air box.

I intend to clean the buildup off later this week and try to locate the source of the oil leak but any tips on where to look would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Jon   
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: David E on July 18, 2018, 03:02:32 AM
Drain it and properly fill it.   The reason for the oil in the air box is due to the overfill.   Same thing happens with my other bike only that one is 1800cc!   Over fill it and it will bleed into the air box.   Clean it all up with Simple Green or something similar and check it again later.


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Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 18, 2018, 03:54:47 AM
Thanks David,

 But when I noticed the oil in the air box it was 2000 mi ago and I then drained and properly replaced the oil.

 I changed it again today and that's when I noticed the oily gritty coating on it's underside.

I just am wondering what could be a likely source.

Jon
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: David E on July 18, 2018, 03:57:30 AM
Ah okay Jon.  Sorry for I am new to these little scoots.   If it were me I’d throughly clean it, ride it and then check it to see where it’s leaking from.   


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Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 18, 2018, 04:02:05 AM
Thanks David, simple green is now on my shopping list, have a good night.

Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Viper254 on July 18, 2018, 07:02:05 AM
Hi,

Mine's continuously covered in scuzz underneath, much of which is oily road dirt. I think of it as corrosion prevention; I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 18, 2018, 11:04:55 AM
Yeah, clean it up with some waterless cleaner (brush and rags), then remove seat bucket and center panel. Check around valve cover for oil. Check cover bolts for snugness ...do NOT overtighten. Just small tool snug.
Some road crud is normal - but you seem to be describing something more than that.
Stig
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 21, 2018, 03:48:07 PM
Thanks guys,

I'll get it cleaned up as soon as my work slows, hopefully next week.  Stig, as for taking out the seat bucket, the thought didn't occur to me but it is good idea to take a look from both top and bottom and something I haven't tried yet.  I have always wanted to add an iridium spark plug, so perhaps the benefit will be two fold, and I'm sure it could use a good cleaning under there.

Jon 
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 21, 2018, 03:59:46 PM
Stig,

If you have any other suggestions as to under the seat bucket maintenance that I might want to perform at 5400mi, I would appreciate your suggestions; as it's a lot of work to find the time and space to take the like apart in this town.

Thanks, Jon
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 21, 2018, 04:16:55 PM
Drain the "Puke tube!"
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 21, 2018, 04:40:32 PM
Stig,

If you have any other suggestions as to under the seat bucket maintenance that I might want to perform at 5400mi, I would appreciate your suggestions; as it's a lot of work to find the time and space to take the like apart in this town.

Thanks, Jon
No Jon, at 5400 miles not much needs doing under there. I just like to wipe things down, maybe some armorall and ACF-50 on rubber & metal parts, the Iridium plug after the front panel is off.
Stig
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: mousejunks on July 22, 2018, 04:39:47 AM
It probably just road grime. On my Kymco, oil leaks from the valve cover gasket and stator wire insert.
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 24, 2018, 10:33:36 AM
Karl, what's the puke tube?  I have noticed a rubber/silicon tube hanging down on both my scoot and my friend's Zuma, not sure what it's purpose?  Is it the puke tube?
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 24, 2018, 11:23:05 AM
Black plug in the end? That's the puke tube if there is a plug. Nasty fluid inside, smells gassy but will falter the engine if not stop it if it fills up. An unplugged tube is for carb overflow or battery. You don't have a carb on the Like and batteries don't have a drain anymore on Kymcos.
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 25, 2018, 11:07:35 AM
Karl,

So I cleaned out the crank breather puke tube, and there was some nasty stuff mixed in with a small amount of oil, she has been running a bit rough lately, so the tip was appreciated. 

That said, there were also two more tubes, one fairly long 6"- 8" with a very small diameter hose and one right next to the puke tube and about the same length and diameter, neither with plugs.

Any idea what those are for?  I can't imagine they are artifacts of batt/carb drains, but I don't know.

I just don't have a lot of experience with these modern small engines, trying to learn.

Thanks, Jon

Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Stig / Major Tom on July 25, 2018, 11:14:49 AM
One of those will be the over-flow for the gas tank. Fill neck has a rubber cup with drain hose attached to collect gas if you over fill the tank....or spill some while filling. Other is a breather for evap system I'm pretty sure.
Stig
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: Jonnielights on July 27, 2018, 05:59:46 AM
Karl,

That puke tube cleanse has really helped my scoot to run more smoothly, night and day!

Thanks for the tip, Jon
Title: Re: Oil coating underside of Kymco 2016 Like 200i
Post by: CROSSBOLT on July 27, 2018, 11:00:17 AM
 ;D