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Scooters - 125 to 300 => LIKE 200i => Topic started by: jmcdo13 on July 08, 2018, 01:17:30 AM
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I bought a cheap used Chinese scooter last year to see if scooting was practical for me and enjoyable. It was! I have been doing research and decided on purchasing a 2018 Like 200i. The dealership I am working said that "they needed to locate" the scooter I wanted because they didn't have the color (Matte black). Is this normal? don't they just order a new scoot from Kymco?
Anyway, my real question is how in depth should I go when checking out the scoot before leaving the dealership? I have done all the work on the current Chinese scooter. Are there any issues that have arose after leaving the dealership with your new scoot? I just read the post about the wobbly wheel.
Any help/ advise would be appreciated.
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I would consider the new Like 150i, if I were you. (Literally bought a brand new one today). Much better then the 200i, at least in my opinion. But if you are stuck on the 200i, make
Sure they give you the 4 year extended warranty that Kymco is offering on them right now. Other then that make sure they did a good pdi. Check tire pressure, oil, and lights.
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Why do you feel the like 150i is better than the 200i?
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Please check the specs and compare the old 200i vs the new 150i. The new LIKE150i was selected as "Scooter of the Year" for many reasons.
2 wheel ABS. brakes, MUCH better headlight, more powerful engine, better MPG, price is nearly the same, LEDs, better seat.
The LIKE200I is a very good scooter - the new, 2nd generation Like150I is improved in so many ways, and is a better scooter.
It might come down to appearance for some - but you get so much more with the new LIKE150i. ...at nearly the same price as the old one! What's not to like?!
Don't let your dealer talk you into the 200i, just because he doesn't have the totally new model in stock.
Stig
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If price is a factor - the dealer better be knocking $500 off the list price of the 200i ! Otherwise, it's a deal breaker IMHO. (and I say this after 5 yrs of happy ownership of a LIKE200iLX! )
Buy the new 150i!
Stig
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Why? Well, maybe because it has a way better seat and a better suspension for smoother rides, better smooth and silent 4 valve engine, LED Lights all around, Fueltank underneath the floorboard with better and lower center of gravity, easy access to fuel filler cap, battery underneath the seat for better access, ABS on front and rear wheel, better digital Display with more functions available, better overall design/style (more Vespa like),....
But there are a few minor downsides on the new model as well imho:
Thinner front tire (only 110 instead of 120) - which looks a bit girly like, Iwould change it soon to a 120
Smaller engine size (150cc instead of 163cc) - but maybe these 13cc dont make much of a difference
Low position of fuel filler cap on floorboard - might cause some spilling out of the pipe while filling, one might need to get used to it and exercise a bit
Heavier in general than the old model - if this matters depends on where you preferably need or want to ride, but it also shouldn´t bother too much
The design of the exhaust pipe is a catastrophy - very unsexy and unmanly but very girly like
Parts more expensive if needed (LED lights, ABS parts, Display etc.)
If I had to, I would invest my money in the new model at this time. Except I could get the 200i very cheap.
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damn, I should have posted this question a couple weeks ago. I am already deep in the process. I just emailed the dealership. The 200i is in the works. I hope that I will still be happy with it. Im sure that it will still be a huge up grade from the Chinese scoot. Thank you for all the advice.
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I also bought a 2018 Like 200i, and chose that over the new 150 based on size and price. While I do appreciate the improvements made in the new model it felt smaller to me, especially the leg room. And I got an incredible deal on the 200: $1695+ fees and taxes, total was $2392 out the door. Only problem I had was a SEVERELY out of round front tire which made the bike unrideable over 40mph. Dealer replaced it and everything else has been fine. Coming up on 600 miles now, and other than the need for a more comfortable seat I am very happy with my decision. So, if it fits better and you can get a great deal, perhaps the 200i would be a good choice for you too.
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damn, I should have posted this question a couple weeks ago. I am already deep in the process. I just emailed the dealership. The 200i is in the works. I hope that I will still be happy with it. Im sure that it will still be a huge up grade from the Chinese scoot. Thank you for all the advice.
Nothing says you gotta be a nice guy....if you can change your order. Did they tell you about the new model 150i? ?
My salesman never showed me the LX model. Did the paperwork on a red one. Then while shopping my free helmet, spotted the blue white LX. Told him to rip up the papers and start over --- "I'm buying the LX!"
Are you in some legal manner committed to the 200i?
Sure would at least get a big knock down in price of any left over 200i's !
Stig
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The 200i is nice but it's now at the end of it's run. You'll be fine with it but if you can get a 150i instead then it'll probably be worth it.
The 200i is good though :)
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OK, to reply to your thread questions:
After 5 years with my 2013 LIKE200iLX I can report that there were no faults with it upon leaving the dealership. I don't know how much the dealer has to do to set up the scoot - there are paint dabs everywhere on the fasteners - applied at the factory after shooting on the fasteners.
If anything, I found them to be bleedin tight when I tried to loosen them for servicing!
A small % of models which came off the line in 2012 calendar year developed faults in the TPS (throttle position sensor) which were, in my case, taken care of under warranty with a new throttle body. Nevertheless - the scooter never failed to start, run, or get me home even with the faulty TPS.
Reading this forum for 5 years >>> Have not heard of any other issues with the powertrain in the other model years. One shock came loose; one rear footpeg came loose: a plastic panel tab broke. And we have heard here of maybe 3 LIKE's with faulty tires/wheels.
Pretty darn good track record for what so many of us consider (around the world - for fun check out the LIKE club in the Philippines) a rock solid scooter. (doesn't seem to be much the dealer can do to screw up the LIKE200i!)
As for paying for extra years of warranty - beyond whatever ifs offered as standard warranty - I would NOT.
If this scoot is going to fail - it will be within those warranty years 99% of the time....and if not, parts are cheap.
You've got a great scooter! Easy to service. Uses less than a Qt of oil at changes. (so, I do it often!)
If going to do any rain riding - recommend swapping out those nylon Kendas for some Michelin City Grips.
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6ui1l8ewf/20160511_064716_2.jpg)
Stig
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Having assembled a few scooters out of the box, the deal usually fits the luggage rack, fits the front wheel, attaches the mirrors and does general checks that things are bolted on correctly!
Aside from that they don't do all that much to them! They should thoroughly check everything's OK.
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Kymco is offering a free extended 4 year warranty on the left over 200i probably to move them.
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Having assembled a few scooters out of the box, the deal usually fits the luggage rack, fits the front wheel, attaches the mirrors and does general checks that things are bolted on correctly!
Aside from that they don't do all that much to them! They should thoroughly check everything's OK.
I helped uncrate my Piaggio Liberty150i to look for the color I was after
All it needed was mirrors attached. I test sat it while it was still fixed to the wooden skid. (then bought it)
Stig
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I helped uncrate my Piaggio Liberty150i to look for the color I was after
All it needed was mirrors attached. I test sat it while it was still fixed to the wooden skid. (then bought it)
Stig
It's good to see that Piaggio do it better. I've started saving for a Medley 300 now to eventually replace the Like 200.
The only stuff I uncrated were Lexmotos - sometimes the biggest selling brand in the UK, but doesn't exist outside of the country!
A block of wood goes between the front forks and the spindle holds the forks through the block of wood, hence locking the bike in place. It's not a bad system actually.
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As far as your question about pre-delivery inspection goes, CHECK EVERYTHING YOU CAN! Like mentioned, the dealer does not really have to do that much so his assembler cannot screw up much. Engine oil can be low or WAY OVER FULL. Found that on a demo Like my wife had the hots for. Big item is make sure the parts that were robbed are back on properly. I am saying some dealers are really bad about this and if you don't know they are doing it you WILL find out later that it was done to you. Hopefully, there will be more than one model of what you want so you can prepare.
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Thanks everyone for the good info. after reading your reply's. I decided to change my order to the 150i. I talked with the dealership today and should be good to go.
It looks like the rear "rack" wont fit a top case. The Kymco website doesn't seem to have one either. What do the Like 150i riders do to get a top case on?
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Thanks everyone for the good info. after reading your reply's. I decided to change my order to the 150i. I talked with the dealership today and should be good to go.
It looks like the rear "rack" wont fit a top case. The Kymco website doesn't seem to have one either. What do the Like 150i riders do to get a top case on?
Well Hot Dang!
Good for you. 😊!
As to a top case. ....try google image searches - see if you spot a new 150i wearing one. You won't be the only one wanting a case. Remember to search 125i too, many countries only get that engine, not the 150i.
Post up with your impressions, please, when she comes in.
Stig
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I'm excited for you - the Like 150i looks great.
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I swear I remember them advertising top cases for the Like 150i, maybe I am wrong. But I just bought the Like 150i on Saturday and the underseat
Storage is massive, I won’t need a top case. Biggest storage compartment I have seen on this sized scooter.
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Glad the dealer let you change your mind, so there's no regrets. What kind of price were you able to get on that new 150? By the way, there's another post that shows one with what looks to be a Shad topcase.
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By the way, there's another post that shows one with what looks to be a Shad topcase.
Yep, that one is mine. Here is the post with images:
http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=26194.msg186640#msg186640 (http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=26194.msg186640#msg186640)
The underseat storage is really big, but would not fit a full face helmet, so we got the rear case. A 3/4 helmet would likely fit under the seat, but I value my chin.
The rack the dealer ordered from Kymco, and the shad case is just that. Dealer installed both, so I can't comment on how hard they were to get on there. Very happy with the case and rack. With the Shad you can turn the key the other direction and the top case comes off completely, leaving just the rack...super nice.
You made the right choice switching to the 150i from the 200i. We have 72 miles on our 150i and it is awesome. Very fast for a 150 and great features. Rides awesome. No issues to report so far, just wish we would get a dedicated forum here for the bike.
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Yep, that one is mine. Here is the post with images:
http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=26194.msg186640#msg186640 (http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=26194.msg186640#msg186640)
The underseat storage is really big, but would not fit a full face helmet, so we got the rear case. A 3/4 helmet would likely fit under the seat, but I value my chin.
The rack the dealer ordered from Kymco, and the shad case is just that. Dealer installed both, so I can't comment on how hard they were to get on there. Very happy with the case and rack. With the Shad you can turn the key the other direction and the top case comes off completely, leaving just the rack...super nice.
You made the right choice switching to the 150i from the 200i. We have 72 miles on our 150i and it is awesome. Very fast for a 150 and great features. Rides awesome. No issues to report so far, just wish we would get a dedicated forum here for the bike.
Nice! Just passed 82 miles on mine. Only issue I have on mine is my seat lock will only pop open when the ignition is on. Dealer is gonna adjust the cable on Friday. My back break seems to be squeaky, assuming that is just break in, but are yours?
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Nice! Just passed 82 miles on mine. Only issue I have on mine is my seat lock will only pop open when the ignition is on. Dealer is gonna adjust the cable on Friday. My back break seems to be squeaky, assuming that is just break in, but are yours?
Yeah brakes are squeaky but not too bad, I think it is just break-in stuff.
At first my seat wouldn't open at all it seemed like and then suddenly it just started working fine, have not had any issues with it since that first day when it acted strange.
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I like the short length of the LIKE200I cable....less to go wrong.
Can't understand why they can't put the key straight into a seat latch. ..forget about the cool stand-off mechanisms!
The Liberty has an electric seat release button ( with a back-up cable release)
The odd times that I have brake noise...I use a green kitchen scrubby on the discs. Grab disc with scrubby and spin the wheel.
Removes whatever was causing the issue.
Stig
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I like the short length of the LIKE200I cable....less to go wrong.
Can't understand why they can't put the key straight into a seat latch. ..forget about the cool stand-off mechanisms!
The Liberty has an electric seat release button ( with a back-up cable release)
The odd times that I have brake noise...I use a green kitchen scrubby on the discs. Grab disc with scrubby and spin the wheel.
Removes whatever was causing the issue.
Stig
Oh cool thanks. Will hit my disks with the green scrubby. Yeah I am jealous of my girlfriends Sprint 150 electric seat latch as well. Part of me almost wishes they at least
Would’ve had the Liberty on the floor at least for the option, but everytime I ride my Like 150 I like it more and more. I also wish it had an oil filter like the Piaggio/Vespa 3 valve motor as well, get those longer service intrevals, plus imagine extra capacity as well for bit better cooling.
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I like the short length of the LIKE200I cable....less to go wrong.
Can't understand why they can't put the key straight into a seat latch. ..forget about the cool stand-off mechanisms!
The Liberty has an electric seat release button ( with a back-up cable release)
The odd times that I have brake noise...I use a green kitchen scrubby on the discs. Grab disc with scrubby and spin the wheel.
Removes whatever was causing the issue.
Stig
Some SYM bikes have an electric one on the handlebars.
My Suzuki used to be that if you turned the ignition key left, the seat would pop open!
To be fair, I've never heard of anybody snapping one of the cables...
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Oh cool thanks. Will hit my disks with the green scrubby. Yeah I am jealous of my girlfriends Sprint 150 electric seat latch as well. Part of me almost wishes they at least
Would’ve had the Liberty on the floor at least for the option, but everytime I ride my Like 150 I like it more and more. I also wish it had an oil filter like the Piaggio/Vespa 3 valve motor as well, get those longer service intrevals, plus imagine extra capacity as well for bit better cooling.
True, my 155cc Piaggio Liberty holds much more oil than my 163cc LIKE200iLX.
Stg
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Yeah brakes are squeaky but not too bad, I think it is just break-in stuff.
At first my seat wouldn't open at all it seemed like and then suddenly it just started working fine, have not had any issues with it since that first day when it acted strange.
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Well I guess I am just retarded. My seat worked this whole time. Brought it in to the dealer and the mechanic was like I don’t have time for this sh** (said light heartedly). Went to look at it and pops it open first try (in the ignition off position). And I was like how the hell did you do that?! Watch I can’t, and I fail to pop it...turns out on I was so used to having to push the key in on every other scooter I have used. On my Like 150i, you only push in on the ignition on position, but the off position you don’t push in, just turn. Well makes me feel better on quality control now. They at least had my plate waiting for me so not a wasted trip there at least, even though it’s only 5 minutes up the street and I need more break in miles anyway. Ha ha ha
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Hey, but you can open the seat now ^.^
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My 150 came in a couple days ago. Picking it up tomorrow. Can't wait! Ill post my thoughts on it after a little riding. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
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My 150 came in a couple days ago. Picking it up tomorrow. Can't wait! Ill post my thoughts on it after a little riding. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
congrats! What color did you get? Going on 2 weeks since I got mine and love it more everytime I ride it. Halfway to the first service
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I love my Like 200i, she has not let me down once, all weather, all temperatures, all sorts of hard and fast driving and even one crash.
On paper the 150 seems a better choice, but regardless of if cost, style and warranty are a factor for you, just know you'll almost certainly be making a good decision either way.
Ride Safe!
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So picked up the Like 150i a couple weeks ago. I have not put as many miles on it as I would have liked, it has been raining here just about everyday, since I picked it up.
I got the metallic Blue. I think it looks great! I'm 5'7" and It fits me well. It's seat is a little higher than my old Chinese scoot. I am still able to put both feet down without a problem. The seat is also way more comfortable. There is an audible blinker alarm. Its not too loud ,but you can hear it up to about 40 mph, which it can prevent you from looking like an idiot with your turn signal on driving down the road. I have ridden a Kymco Agility 50 and the turn signal alarm was loud and annoying.
The head light is bright. There are a couple of roads near my house without street lights, that when I used to drive them on my old scoot, I would have to turn my high beams on and I still couldn't see well. Not a problem the the Like, just using the running lights. With the brights I saw everything.
Its under seat storage is pretty large. Larger than my old scoot. It does NOT fit my full face medium helmet, but I am able to keep some tools, rain gear, grocery bags with room to spare. The glove box has a USB port. The glove box shape is awkward. I can fit my cell phone in it, but its kind of like playing Tetris to get it to clpse. It does not come with a rear rack for a top case, just a grab bar. I looked everywhere to purchase one. I ended up having to use Amazon.fr.(French Amazon.) I found one (Part #gv-sr6109- same as in the US) for a good price (about $80), but its getting held up in customs. I am hoping to have it soon.
As for the ride. It accelerates well. I'm still breaking it in, but it can get up to 50 mph without even realizing it. I haven't pushed it too hard, but I got it up to 65 mph once or twice for short distances. It still had some throttle left. It does idle pretty hard when stopped at a light and there is also a little bit of a rattle coming from directly under the seat , but I am assuming that it just needs to be broken in. I will investigate the rattle soon. Brakes work great, even in the rain. Tires feel secure on wet winding roads.
The speedometer is analog, but everything else is digital. It has 6 bar fuel gauge. It has your normal "Trip 1", "Trip 2", but it also has "Oil Trip", "Belt Trip" and of course the regular odometer. It has a clock, a temp gauge (outside temp, not engine temp.) and also a battery volt meter.
Overall I love it. I'm looking forward to when I can open her up, after she is all broken in.
I tried to attach some photos, but its not working.
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So picked up the Like 150i a couple weeks ago. I have not put as many miles on it as I would have liked, it has been raining here just about everyday, since I picked it up.
I got the metallic Blue. I think it looks great! I'm 5'7" and It fits me well. It's seat is a little higher than my old Chinese scoot. I am still able to put both feet down without a problem. The seat is also way more comfortable. There is an audible blinker alarm. Its not too loud ,but you can hear it up to about 40 mph, which it can prevent you from looking like an idiot with your turn signal on driving down the road. I have ridden a Kymco Agility 50 and the turn signal alarm was loud and annoying.
The head light is bright. There are a couple of roads near my house without street lights, that when I used to drive them on my old scoot, I would have to turn my high beams on and I still couldn't see well. Not a problem the the Like, just using the running lights. With the brights I saw everything.
Its under seat storage is pretty large. Larger than my old scoot. It does NOT fit my full face medium helmet, but I am able to keep some tools, rain gear, grocery bags with room to spare. The glove box has a USB port. The glove box shape is awkward. I can fit my cell phone in it, but its kind of like playing Tetris to get it to clpse. It does not come with a rear rack for a top case, just a grab bar. I looked everywhere to purchase one. I ended up having to use Amazon.fr.(French Amazon.) I found one (Part #gv-sr6109- same as in the US) for a good price (about $80), but its getting held up in customs. I am hoping to have it soon.
As for the ride. It accelerates well. I'm still breaking it in, but it can get up to 50 mph without even realizing it. I haven't pushed it too hard, but I got it up to 65 mph once or twice for short distances. It still had some throttle left. It does idle pretty hard when stopped at a light and there is also a little bit of a rattle coming from directly under the seat , but I am assuming that it just needs to be broken in. I will investigate the rattle soon. Brakes work great, even in the rain. Tires feel secure on wet winding roads.
The speedometer is analog, but everything else is digital. It has 6 bar fuel gauge. It has your normal "Trip 1", "Trip 2", but it also has "Oil Trip", "Belt Trip" and of course the regular odometer. It has a clock, a temp gauge (outside temp, not engine temp.) and also a battery volt meter.
Overall I love it. I'm looking forward to when I can open her up, after she is all broken in.
I tried to attach some photos, but its not working.
I noticed that rattle under my seat too. At first it wasn’t there but now it is. Haven’t found it yet. About to do the first oil change (I am at 450 miles) so hopefully I can figure it out then. Mine idles really well at a stop. But I do notice a back fire on deceleration coming to a stop. So update: did my first service, and investigated under the seat...got excited when I realized the exhaust bolts were loose (all I could find) made the overall rattles a little quiter but under seat vibrations still there
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So picked up the Like 150i a couple weeks ago. I have not put as many miles on it as I would have liked, it has been raining here just about everyday, since I picked it up.
I got the metallic Blue. I think it looks great! I'm 5'7" and It fits me well. It's seat is a little higher than my old Chinese scoot. I am still able to put both feet down without a problem. The seat is also way more comfortable. There is an audible blinker alarm. Its not too loud ,but you can hear it up to about 40 mph, which it can prevent you from looking like an idiot with your turn signal on driving down the road. I have ridden a Kymco Agility 50 and the turn signal alarm was loud and annoying.
The head light is bright. There are a couple of roads near my house without street lights, that when I used to drive them on my old scoot, I would have to turn my high beams on and I still couldn't see well. Not a problem the the Like, just using the running lights. With the brights I saw everything.
Its under seat storage is pretty large. Larger than my old scoot. It does NOT fit my full face medium helmet, but I am able to keep some tools, rain gear, grocery bags with room to spare. The glove box has a USB port. The glove box shape is awkward. I can fit my cell phone in it, but its kind of like playing Tetris to get it to clpse. It does not come with a rear rack for a top case, just a grab bar. I looked everywhere to purchase one. I ended up having to use Amazon.fr.(French Amazon.) I found one (Part #gv-sr6109- same as in the US) for a good price (about $80), but its getting held up in customs. I am hoping to have it soon.
As for the ride. It accelerates well. I'm still breaking it in, but it can get up to 50 mph without even realizing it. I haven't pushed it too hard, but I got it up to 65 mph once or twice for short distances. It still had some throttle left. It does idle pretty hard when stopped at a light and there is also a little bit of a rattle coming from directly under the seat , but I am assuming that it just needs to be broken in. I will investigate the rattle soon. Brakes work great, even in the rain. Tires feel secure on wet winding roads.
The speedometer is analog, but everything else is digital. It has 6 bar fuel gauge. It has your normal "Trip 1", "Trip 2", but it also has "Oil Trip", "Belt Trip" and of course the regular odometer. It has a clock, a temp gauge (outside temp, not engine temp.) and also a battery volt meter.
Overall I love it. I'm looking forward to when I can open her up, after she is all broken in.
I tried to attach some photos, but its not working.
Thanks for the rear rack info!
That should come in handy for a lot of new owners!
Stig