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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: Cloud on July 19, 2010, 11:44:20 PM
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I know you have talked about Seafoam and I did not pay attention at that point. I want to use it in my 04 People 50.
The 50 has 20,000 Km on it. Where do I put it in and how much? After it is in the scooter do I ride it immediately? Then, how often do I use Seafoam? Also, how long before I see results?
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Put some in the gas tank an ounce or two to a tank,than ride once you do that I put a cap full or 2 every other tank,this oxigenated gas seems to create is own water vapers not good on a little one cylinder,some times right after you put it in you will see steam in the exhaust smoke.over night seems to do the trick for most if carbs a bit dirty It kinda works weather you are moving or not,but suggest a few miles be put on to aggitate things.
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I have been using it since I got water in the gas of my Benelli 50cc a couple of years ago. I now have a SYM HD 200 and a People S 200
I fuel up from gas cans in my garage. That way I can keep the bikes topped up without constant trips to the gas station. And it is important to keep the tank full, that makes condensation less likely.
I add one OZ Seafoam per gallon of gas in the can.
In the last 8500 miles of riding on three bikes I have not had a stall, hard start or any other engine or carb problem, so I would say the stuff works, or at the very least it does not hurt.
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..i bought a 2001 ppl 50, with 7500 kms on it...
..had been in storage for over 2 yrs...
..seafoam cleared all the crap outta the fuel system in one tank...
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Thanks for your information. Since I put Seafoam in my People 50, it runs much better. Starting, acceleration and gas mileage have really improved.
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...ssweeet....
;)
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Now install a ngk iridium plug and you will see more improvements . Good luck .
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..yeah, i just put ngk iridiums im my daughter's eclipse...wowww...
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;D see
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..yeah..just put over 400 bucks of PM in her mitsi..damned good thing i get to work a lot...
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..those.... MASS IRIDIUMS..are th' bomb....
;D
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just a bit of useless info for any dummies like myself.................. NO seafoam in a 2t oil tank, i believe that was the problem, going back out for a short test run...must work in gas tank, had to clean it twice JUST AFTER putting in tank(debrised the screen that quick)......
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NO seafoam in a 2t oil tank
..noted.....
;)
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just take it easy with that stuff to much is no good. after time you well have to clean your carb.
and maybe even replace any rubber parts in your carb. it well eat rubber seal.
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That is good to know blue, sometimes we forget about possible side effects.
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..one oz per gallon...use it everywhere!!!
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I might need some of this already. Was a little chilly here today so I let it run a good little while before jumping on and it just wanted to sputter, then rev, then gag. Could be just the weather, but I'm gonna get me some soon anyway. Sounds like good stuff.
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Sounds like you've discovered that the agility doesn't like the cold much.
An extended warm up period is a necessity as it gets colder.
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An extended warm up period is a necessity as it gets colder.
...true...
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I don't mind doing the warm up in the morning - I can just go back inside and stay warm.
A lot less fun on the way home when I have to stand outside the subway station waiting for the scoot to heat up.
Some guy walked by on the way out of the subway last winter and told me he sees me standing in the bitter cold next to a my scooter watching it warm up every night. He wanted to know why I do that.
I told him that he clearly had no appreciation for performance art and should move along...
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..during the winter, i ride my scoot in 20 degree weather...
.have for over two years..
..it'll warm up okay...
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lol good for you telling him to just move along.
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The coldest I've ridden in is 8 degrees.
At that point it's not the scoot you have to worry about warming up...
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cant wait to try my new tires in the snow lol.
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...dang..8 degrees.......dang..i don't even WANT to!!
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cant wait to try my new tires in the snow lol.
..wow...thems some grippy tires!!!
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lol "performance art"
I do like dem tires, blue. They're pretty nice.
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ya did some off roading with theam the other day just to see how good they work.
and I loved it cant wait to get the front tire on.
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Let me know how the tires work.
I ride year round including snow and I'm still using the oem tires.
Probably need to do something about that soon.
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they work great just look for kenda tires.
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My tires say: Cheng Shin.
Never heard of 'em before. They don't look bad, but they are plain, certainly not off-road or all-terrain or anything fancy. I'm always jealous when I see pics of the nicer ones.
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My stock tires got bad and I was thinking of kendas because I ride all year and because of the streets here a lot of gravel on the corners from construction and they are good in the mud and on wet roads
to me its just a safty thing have tires that well grip the road.and go threw anything.
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Oh that sounds like exactly what I need, blue. We have a lot of construction here, too, and a bunch of loose gravel. One spot I passed through today the road was almost white from all of the dust and there was gravel everywhere. I decided I would just hang on for the ride and try not to overreact if the tires didn't like it. lol. Did you get yours local or order them online?
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The Cheng Shin are the stock tires.
I'm still using them, but other forum members have said that there are much better tires out there. Might be something I'll have to think about with winter approaching.
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Yeah, oswaldters, that's what I'm thinking too. I dunno if my budget will have room for it this winter, but it would probably be a good idea if you'll be riding year round.
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The motorcycle superstore has a good selection of tires . Good luck .
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I think I would go with the motorcycle superstore since they'll ship the tires to the service center.
They have a good selection and their prices seem competitive.
I just hate to have to transport the sccot to the shop. I've done all my own work to this point but tires are beyond my ability.
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Thanks, juice!
Wow, that's cool, oswaldters. I didn't know they would ship them like that. I don't know how the dealer handles tires. Probably need an appointment for everything. But a couple of the local tire shops will just change out the tires on your car while you wait, without an appointment. Could have them done in like 15 or 20 minutes, anytime you had the time to ride over there, if your old tires were still usable enough to get you there. That would be nice.
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They don't look bad, but they are plain, certainly not off-road or all-terrain or anything fancy. I'm always jealous when I see pics of the nicer ones.
Like these tires?:
http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=5&rtyp=16&sv=1&profil=96&pic=58 (http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=5&rtyp=16&sv=1&profil=96&pic=58)
(onroad snow&ice tire)
http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=5&rtyp=16&sv=1&profil=92&pic=75 (http://www.reifenwerk-heidenau.de/modules/reifenliste/view.php?point=5&rtyp=16&sv=1&profil=92&pic=75)
(mud&snow tire)
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wow ts1 theam look good also. I got mine from a dealer close to home because the coast of theam to be set to me oline is like buying 2 tires so a dealer can get theam cheaper because they all ready have a big order going threw so they get a price cut. check with your local scoot dealer befor ordering on line.
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ooooohh, those are pretty, too!
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They do look nice!
Should be able to handle any weather.
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"http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/5/32/404/12081/ITEM/Avon-AM63-Viper-Stryke-Front-Scooter-Tire.aspx"
..these are th' bomb!!
8)
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I've been looking at those as well.
Looks like they would handle the rain nicely - my key consideration.
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..they handle awesomely in the rain...i ride rain or shine..
..i have no choice in the matter if i wanna get to work every day...
..these tires have hauled me through downpours with confidence...
..keep in mind, NO tire is going to stick to a water/oil patch, so always ride with caution on newly wet roads...
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A good point.
I've ridden through a few rainstorms myself on the Chen Shins. Have to say they handled fine, but I'm still thinking I should upgrade.
I too ride my scoot each day as part of the commute to work. That's how I ended up riding when it was 8 degrees out ;D
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..i've ridden at 18...not had to at 8....yet....
..mine was a 17 mile trip....
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17 mile trip trumps my 5 miles in 8 degree weather.
Still, being out there riding in that kind of weather impressed even the sport bikers!
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..everybody just said i was f*ckin' crazy...
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..everybody just said i was f*ckin' crazy...
...that's how sport bikers show acceptance...
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..lmao...
;D ;D ;D
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I pulled this information off the Seafoam web page (Seafoam.com)
To control moisture buildup in oil, add 1½ oz. Sea Foam to each quart of oil. Sea foam will prevent phase separation of moisture that accumulates in oil. Moisture will evaporate under the heat of the crank case. Change oil and filter when dirty.
Their web page explains what and how Seafoam can be used .
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I have been puting seam foam in the last few times when I fell up.and also but some in the oil its been about a good month now should I change the oil and clean the filter to make sure all the lose dirt is gone if there is any. the oil is like new that is in it now. I did get a good back fire out of the scoot after like 2 days of rideing it.
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Change your oil
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..agreed with cloud...
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im right on that thanks.
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ok this is about 1 month after I had sea foam in looks scary. a lot of dirt. so should I but more sea foam back in or just run with out. I was thinking more just for a addative
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ok this is about 1 month after I had sea foam in looks scary. a lot of dirt. so should I but more sea foam back in or just run with out. I was thinking more just for a addative
Most likely that's carbon not dirt. Do you run 92 octane?
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just regular
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what is that? a fuel filter?
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its the oil filter every scoot has one its good to clean theam ounce in a while.
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what is that? a fuel filter?
GY6 Drain Bolt and Screen filter (acts as an oil filter)
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my scoot has a 2 drain bolts one has the screen in it.
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This is from the Seafoam website:
Sea Foam is a blend of highly refined additive oils and is compatible with all motor oils including synthetics. It is safe for all internal engine components and will not affect any seals, gaskets or o-rings. Sea Foam cleans oil deposits and varnish in your crankcase by safely/slowly re liquefying the old oil residue so contaminants may flow and be filtered. The longer Sea Foam is in your oil the cleaner your crankcase will become. When adding Sea Foam to clean oil, for long term maintenance cleaning, you must check your oil periodically for color and clarity, when your oil looks dirty change it. Because you added cleaning oil (Sea Foam) to your oil you may have to change oil before the expected service interval.
When adding Sea Foam to dirty oil before an oil change, for best results use 1 ½ ounces per quart of oil at least 100 miles before oil is changed.
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thanks that helps a lot. now I under stand.
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my scoot has a 2 drain bolts one has the screen in it.
..WHAT!?..
..where's the other??
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my scoot has a 2 drain bolts one has the screen in it.
..WHAT!?..
..where's the other??
Lower left side of the case. 17MM I believe
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...well i be damned...for draining on the kick-stand...
..looks like that might be a more thorough drain...
..i never knew.....
???
..i love this forum......................
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...well i be damned...for draining on the kick-stand...
..looks like that might be a more thorough drain...
..i never knew.....
???
..i love this forum......................
LOL! You can also use this for an oil temp gauge. Sunpro makes the metric adapter so you can use a gauge to monitor your oil temp.... if you care what it is.. ;)
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..i would reckon oil temp would relate to how hot your fuel mix is burning..in a air-cooled single cylinder 4t engine...
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..i would reckon oil temp would relate to how hot your fuel mix is burning..in a air-cooled single cylinder 4t engine...
To an extent. More so with a lean condition the temp increase is in the top end with the combustion. Fuel actually cools the combustion. If you are wanting to use temp as a way of AF tuning I would use a temp terminal lug attached to the cylinder head stud, or an infrared temp gun to measure the exhaust pipe near the head.
A lean condition will cause engine oil temperature to increase to an extent. But in this application its used to monitor how hard the engine is working. My GY6 stock engine would run around 175-180 on a summer day during normal riding conditions. The temperature would increase when going up a long incline.
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But in this application its used to monitor how hard the engine is working. My GY6 stock engine would run around 175-180 on a summer day during normal riding conditions. The temperature would increase when going up a long incline...
..good to know..thanx...
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But in this application its used to monitor how hard the engine is working. My GY6 stock engine would run around 175-180 on a summer day during normal riding conditions. The temperature would increase when going up a long incline...
..good to know..thanx...
Gauges can catch problems before they do damage IF you monitor them and learn what they should be at. I just like gauges and LED indicators. LOL!
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I haven't seen the MSDS sheet for Seafoam yet since I can't download any PDF's at the moment, but I saw this today about another product and how it compares to Sta-bil when dealing with ethanol and for storage purposes. It was interesting. It's the 5th question down:
http://www.agscompany.com/faq (http://www.agscompany.com/faq)
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I haven't seen the MSDS sheet for Seafoam yet since I can't download any PDF's at the moment, but I saw this today about another product and how it compares to Sta-bil when dealing with ethanol and for storage purposes. It was interesting. It's the 5th question down:
http://www.agscompany.com/faq (http://www.agscompany.com/faq)
http://www.seafoamsales.com/component/option,com_rokdownloads/Itemid,42/view,folder/ (http://www.seafoamsales.com/component/option,com_rokdownloads/Itemid,42/view,folder/)
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So how do you put da seafoam in da tank? Do you start it up after you put it in? Or take a ride? Or just dump and done?
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Any of the above.
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Thanks, oswaldters!
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It'll work its way through the system as you ride.
If you're planning to store it (and I know you're not) then after putting it in you would want to circulate it first before you store it.
But in your case, just let it work as you go about your normal riding.
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Old question answered thanks guys, just bought my first can of Seafoam, but the instructions on the can were bland. I have been using Stabil as an additive for about a year now, but have read the boards and this should be some good stuff. I have all stock on my A50 and is 2 years old. I saw someone posted they were riding theirs in 8 degrees - ouch. I only had to that about 3 times, so I know the feeling.
Thanks
B