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General => Roadcraft => Topic started by: CROSSBOLT on December 29, 2017, 04:11:54 PM
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Just another nerve rubbed raw by people who just CAN'T get away from that darn phone and CANNOT stay in their lane. I do not have to give details because you all have seen them in one form or another. Grrr!
Karl
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Walking through the grocer's parking lot today with daughter.....thinking again of carrying a nice H&B ball bat to get phone-drivers attention.
But, in my coffee village, almost every driver will stop if a pedestrian even looks like they want to cross the street. It is the custom, there.
I do the same when passing through on my scooter. I often get a wave and a smile from the J Walkers.
Stig
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I just had to sign in and post.
Bad drivers are my number one pet peeve.
I will be 68 years old in a few days. I have never in my life seen so many bad drivers on the road as now.
Every time me or the wife go out, we see infractions of all kinds. Where are these people getting their drivers licenses?.
Guess we are going to have to start calling these people out. They are maiming, killing people, and driving insurance rates up for everyone.
It makes me very angry that people are driving so careless.
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Happy, almost birthday, boo. 68 errr, still a youngster. A lot of this bad driving we see today, has it's roots in the 50's, with the advent of air conditioning and T.V. Now before you write me off as just another crazy old guy, let me try to explain. Before the above mentioned items became common place in our homes, we were outside doing things. We knew our neighbors and we helped them and cared about them and we respected their rights. As more things were sold to "modernize" our new contemporary life styles, we became a society of recluses. No one knew their neighbors any more and lost concern for them and their rights and welfare. That mentality carried over to our cars, which had many of the same amenities as our home. We have evolved into a society of isolationist and therefore
have much less concern for those around us. Think about it. Makes sense to me....
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Well stated, Mac. No one just drives anymore. They barely drive while doing so many other things that take their minds off of the task at hand. The one big thing I love about riding is there are no distractions - no phone, no GPS, no radio/stereo, no fiddling with climate control, nothing. Just riding.
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I think the recluse mentality seems to hold true in apartment buildings and condominium complexes. At least that's been my observations. I know all my neighbors in my neighborhood, and have good relationships with most (admittedly a few are jerks). My wife and I just placed a Christmas card in the door of a family who just moved in. She's a single mom, and a college professor from Bulgaria. We're looking forward to meeting them personally.
Our connections to people vary from town to town, place to place and region to region. I don't think it's an absolute. I do agree with you that our reliance on technology has made us more socially entitled. Everyone uses cell phones in all situations, even when it's not appropriate. I once had to tell a student to put she phone away after she was done taking a test. It was the first thing she did when she finished, and was visibly pissed off that I told her she wasn't allowed to do that least she look up the answers online, or take a pic of the test as well. Again, she was pissed that she was denied her phone and had to sit and wait while being stuck with her own thoughts.
I've seen people check their phones in church, and of course any situation where they are stuck waiting for something. I wish there was an easy (and safe way) to mark a person's car, kind of like a Scarlett Letter that brands a car as a cell phone user. Maybe one day.
- Wolf
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I think that as scooter riders we are keenly aware of drivers on cell phones because our survival depends on it. We see the dumb antics that drivers and pedestrians do every time we venture out in traffic. The MSF acronym SIPDE goes through my head whenever I ride through the world. (See-Identify-Predict-Decide-Execute) BTW Happy New Year to all!
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SIPDE is related to SMIDSY: Sorry Mister I Didn't See You!
Karl
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I think that as scooter riders we are keenly aware of drivers on cell phones because our survival depends on it. We see the dumb antics that drivers and pedestrians do every time we venture out in traffic. The MSF acronym SIPDE goes through my head whenever I ride through the world. (See-Identify-Predict-Decide-Execute) BTW Happy New Year to all!
Read that auto accident statistics are better for scooter and motorcycle riders, than for non riders.
We do in cars what we've learned to do on a scooter.
Stig
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Does anyone here use a helmet camera for recording bad drivers or near misses? Have been thinking of getting one but not sure if it is a good idea.
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Does anyone here use a helmet camera for recording bad drivers or near misses? Have been thinking of getting one but not sure if it is a good idea.
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I use one Paul. I think its a great idea! Its also kind of cool to be able to re-watch some memorable rides. You just never know what you're going to see out there.
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I've been using a Drift Ghost S for about 2 years, but not on a daily basis. I think its design -- cylindrical shape and rotating lens -- is better suited as a helmet cam than the GoPros. I've recently stated using 2 cameras -- one facing front on my helmet and one driver facing on my mirror to capture myself and the traffic behind me. Some action cams have a non-stop setting that will record over older footage allowing a rider to record constantly.
- Wolf
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When I was young, I got mad, then about middle age I got even and now in my old age I just try to get there.
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Thanks Guys, was thinking of this one. Not too expensive or bulky.
https://www.sena.com/product/prism-tube/ (https://www.sena.com/product/prism-tube/)
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When I was young, I got mad, then about middle age I got even and now in my old age I just try to get there.
I am not finished with my first cup of coffee this morning and you have me chuckling. I`m with you, otw s.
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The Sena is a good camera, especially with the dual mic set-up. If you’re interested in motovlogging see if there is a model that can record at 1080p 60fps.
- Wolf
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...Everyone uses cell phones in all situations, even when it's not appropriate. I once had to tell a student to put she phone away after she was done taking a test. It was the first thing she did when she finished, and was visibly pissed off that I told her she wasn't allowed to do that least she look up the answers online, or take a pic of the test as well. Again, she was pissed that she was denied her phone and had to sit and wait while being stuck with her own thoughts...
....I wish there was an easy (and safe way) to mark a person's car, kind of like a Scarlett Letter that brands a car as a cell phone user. Maybe one day.
- Wolf
Been in that situation in many classes, Wolf. Kids think that they must be on their phones every dang minute or they will die. It's become a huge entitlement issue and hassle that I won't miss now that I have retired from teaching. God forbid they have to rely on their own imagination and thoughts...
...as for the cars, well there's always spray paint! ;)
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I'm as mystified and concerned about constant use of phones as anyone.
But it's a different entitlement issue to expect anything (time, attention, respect, etc) from a room full of students forced to attend your class. Assuming you're not talking about a university class.
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It's a university class. I actually have less trouble when I teach high schoolers on weekend workshops, but then they want to be there. I't's been my observation that people tend to use their cellphones when they're waiting in line, or maybe stuck with their own thoughts. It doesn't leave a lot of time to think and wonder about things.
- Wolf
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I always bring a book to read while visiting doctor or getting car serviced.
Getting an oil change on my Scion at our new, mega fancy Toyota dealership with a huge waiting lounge -- reading proved impossible due to the women talking loudly on cell phones. Also noticed they both put the bottoms of their shoes on the new coffee tables in front of them.
Saw a bumper sticker yesterday in a book store, " My species embarrasses me."
Stig
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Wish I could get one of those stickers.
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The Sena is a good camera, especially with the dual mic set-up. If you’re interested in motovlogging see if there is a model that can record at 1080p 60fps.
- Wolf
Thanks for that.
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Good one , OTW: that's my new MO, too ("I just want to get there".)