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General => Technical | How To => Topic started by: jbcinzio on July 14, 2010, 12:38:04 PM
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Hi Guys (& Girls)
I've been running around like an idiot for the past month or so....
Forum to forum, shop to shop, ebay, "experts", know-it-all's (who, incidentally, DO NOT know its all!)
I have a Like 50 4T 2010 in black. Love it, couldn't live without it, and I have some big plans for it.
Now, as these are a "New Release" in Australia, not many people have them. Suffice to say, I've only ever seen 2. Ever.
Mine, and a Demo in the showroom. Consequently, the aforementioned experts haven't quite figured out how (or even if its possible) to remove that nasty rev-limiter on the CDI.
Can anyone help me please?
I have thought about going to an aftermarket CDI, however:
a) They are ridiculously expensive when compared to 2T CDI's Super 8's, 9's and all the rest.
b) No one can tel me 100% " Josh, this will fit AND your scoot will actually start.
So far, you have all given me many brilliant ideas, tips, tricks and advice.
Please let there be someone out there with some sort of suggestion or answer.
(I have attached some photos of my CDI as I'm sure someone would like to see what all the fuss is about ???
Thanks Guys,
Josh.
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..where are those pics???
..sure woold like to see that cdi!..
;D
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Sorry... Had a brain fart :-\
My bad!
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And now the CDI....
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I have never seen that one,My guess would be one of the green,leave room to splice back together ;)
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You may not have to cut and splice a wire, instead the pin may be able to be pulled out of the connector without cutting. They make a tool that slides over the pin to depress a clip on the side of the pin, or maybe you can fabricate one. If you get it out, it can be re-inserted. This is assuming your connector has those kinds of pins.
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I have done that with a small icepick or screwdriver,but i think there on to us with the cdi ;) .It is worth a try.This will work with the vespa's and genuine stella's for trouble shooting.(damn kill switches)
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Yeah, these connector blocks are the type where you just remove the yellow "center cage" and then use a jewelers flat screwdriver to release a small catch that holds the bronzed connector of your chosen wire.
To re-insert the wire into the connector block, just line the bronzed connector up and push until it clicks back into place.
Hey presto! - No more cutting and splicing.
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The end of the connector block, and below, my toy in question ;D
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By the way, I found this picture (either on this forum or a Danish site?) and tried to translate/reference this to my CDI connector block - Hope it helps!
Josh
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For the German Like 50 CDI there is a 5cm purple cable loop to cut (pulling a pin).
Edit (found your last posting too late): Like the Danish CDI.
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For the German Like 50 CDI there is a 5cm purple cable loop to cut (pulling a pin).
Edit (found your last posting too late): Like the Danish CDI.
ts1: You're talking about the purple wire on the 2t (2Stroke/2Takt) model yes?
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Purple yes, but 4T. Like with 2T ???
From the German Kymco Forum
http://zzip.de/forum/index.php? (http://zzip.de/forum/index.php?)
with its subforum "Kymco Viertaktroller 50ccm" -> "Like 50"
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Cool good stuff to know!
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Purple yes, but 4T. Like with 2T ???
From the German Kymco Forum
http://zzip.de/forum/index.php? (http://zzip.de/forum/index.php?)
with its subforum "Kymco Viertaktroller 50ccm" -> "Like 50"
Hmmmm.....
Thanks for that mate, i'll look into it!
Josh
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I have the same Australian model black Like 50 4T, now one week old. The dealer told me that it did not have a restricted CDI. How can I tell? Please excuse my ignorance, I haven't been on a bike in over twenty years.
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If you can go over 65 klm or 45 mph you should be de restricted,you may need to be going down hill to do this.
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If you can go over 65 klm or 45 mph you should be de restricted,you may need to be going down hill to do this.
Nope, can't go faster than 65kmh. Wonder how the OP went with his mod?
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You may have a restricter in the veriater drive boss,look around a bit you will find some info on it.The cdi restriction will cut power to the sparkplug and is quite noticable,almost like its cutting out. I'd start there.
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The restricted drive boss will be swapped out at first service. Will need to work out how to do the CDI mod.
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It may allready be you'll know when it kicks in. The drive may be holding you back from reaching the speed needd to activate it. If you get over that 65kl hump with no hickups you are there. Till ya start modding it of corse ;D
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G'day Glennza!
In response to your questions, after much deliberating I have come to the conclusion that The Like 50 4T does NOT have a rev-limiter on the CDI.
I have spent many many hours trawling the forum's, chatting with dealers and googling and have been assured that there is nothing cutting off the power at a certain rpm/speed.
However, there are 3 things that will be holding us 4T riders back...
1/ Variator Drive Boss. Modifying that drive boss at first service (same time as mine) will do wonders! - The thing rides like a new machine, and you can enjoy 70 - 75km/hr on the flat, and 80 - 85 on a slight downhill. The up-hills are another story though.... :(
2/ Breathing is a big issue. From what I understand, changing the exhaust will do wonders. Obviously, if the CDI isn't restricted and its running out of steam on a downhill, then it probably can't get the air out fast enough! I've Just ordered a LeoVince SP3 exhaust from Italy that is still reasonably quiet, but will flow much much better.
3/ Fuel. With a better exhaust bolted on I believe that the stock (19mm) carb will be the next thing to hold me back. Even with bigger jets and a pod filter, there's only so much air the lil' sucker will er.. suck.
Now I've just ordered a 24mm Keihin CV carb that while some disbelievers will argue that its too big, I am told that I can always restrict the inlet side of things should I need to. Well it's easier to do that rather than trying to force more air down a smaller carb now, isn't it?
Good choice of ride, too.... although i'm slightly biased ;D
Happy Scooting,
Josh.
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...excellent post jb!!
..good luck with you 24mm carb!!
..i bet you'll love it!!
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Cheers 'Slinger ;)
Hopefully I'll crack the elusive "Comfortable" 85 km/hr....
As they say, The proof is in the riding!
Josh
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..i have a 20mm Keihin CVK that i had on my guilty once before...
..imma put it back on tomorrow...can't wait to see what i can get out of it now....
:o
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Well good luck 'Slinger & let me know how you go!
When you get a chance, can you let me know your thoughts on the best way to optimize my CVT/Clutch?
I'm wanting to know what you're using in your 4T, and what you'd recommend.... (can be 2 completely different things, yes?!)
Josh