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Scooters - 50cc => Agility 50 => Topic started by: superkymco on July 14, 2010, 08:44:18 AM

Title: startup and variator
Post by: superkymco on July 14, 2010, 08:44:18 AM
so i have two questions, i have naraku 85cc cylinder and he don't want to start up when it is warm, but over a night he starts up by one kick, and anyone knows what variator i need to buy for my 85cc naraku cylinder kit? thx for answers  ;)
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: art on July 14, 2010, 04:33:00 PM
I don't know your kit but I would pay close attention to your jetting hard start after worm may be running to lean,may need to go up on your pilot jet also,mallossi seems to be the prefered veriater kit.Good luck and Welcome to the forum
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on July 17, 2010, 04:19:46 AM
..absolutely....

..welcome....

..so, other than your kit, what other mods??



peace
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: sticlistul on July 17, 2010, 03:13:54 PM
how works naraku kit on a50 ? I would like to have on 90 cc and from what I saw naraku is a good company . keeps us intuch with infos about that kit in time /kilometers .
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: superkymco on July 17, 2010, 05:41:21 PM
thank you for gratz :) sorry iam not best in english so i don't understand 100% of what u are talking about,only kit and full stock, ps. all limiters cutted out, and it runs great just my variator are almost f***ed up :D but u can  buy naraku it is awesome, oh and what i can put more in my scooter to boost it up :P
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: sticlistul on July 18, 2010, 09:14:32 AM
there are a lots of parts for A50 ,all you need is money from them

http://www.centralscooters.co.uk/index.php?cPath=514_657_703 (http://www.centralscooters.co.uk/index.php?cPath=514_657_703)

here is my favorite site with parts they have almoust everything. But I can only enjoy waching ... :))
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: superkymco on July 18, 2010, 10:26:56 AM
thank u  for post, found a good variator ill better stick to naraku i think, i have red on some other websites that the naraku hs variator are best decision
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: sticlistul on July 18, 2010, 01:25:05 PM
ok keep in touch with us and tell your opinion about it :)
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 03, 2010, 02:28:18 PM
i have a kymco agility 50 4 stroke i have just fitted a new starter motor to it n tried starting it but it sounds like its spinnin but the engine isnt ticking over anyone no what it is?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 03:05:09 PM
...is it just the starterr motor spinning or does it sound like the bendix is engaging...

..some generic starter motor's output shafts are shorter than kymco's...

..also, make sure you didn't push the bendix forward out of place when inserting the starter motor..
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 03, 2010, 03:16:44 PM
i prob sound stupid lol but what is the bendix n how do i go about checkin it?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: art on August 03, 2010, 04:20:55 PM
  The bendix is a rod and gear that sits at the other end of the starter. It pushes out to spin the gear on the veriater to start your scoot. You will have to pull the cvt cover to have a look it probably has moved out of place.
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 05:25:31 PM
...tag-team...!!



..there are no stupid questions jay20...  ;D

..except for the ones you don't ask..

..and don't be afraid to ask about anything...your question might be rigt on the tip of someone elses tongue...

..we ALL learn from each other...


peace


Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: art on August 03, 2010, 05:52:07 PM
Ha! check the people 50 thread I'm stuck  ;D
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 03, 2010, 07:11:19 PM
lol ok then and i am gettin a kick start and the bar that goes into casing with the cog on end im just wonderin is it easy to fit?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
..if the spring mechanism is still in place, inside the cvt cover, it's not too bad...

..if the torsion spring had been removed, then you're in for a pain in the ass....
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 03, 2010, 08:29:48 PM
with this bendix thing is it just a case of pushin it back towards the starter motor or more difficult?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 09:24:47 PM
...should be about as easy as that...

..once you remove your cvt cover...

..might have to twist it a bit to get it to line up...

..it's a loose fitting device anyway, when the cover is off...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 09:26:50 PM
...so, you havent been able to start your scoot??

..no starter, and no kick-start...

..that might be a good thing, if the bendix is out of place...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 03, 2010, 09:31:22 PM
what u mean it mite be a good thing if its out of place?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 09:43:13 PM
..no, i mean the good thing is that you havent started it...

..if the bendix was out of place, and you started you scoot via kick-start, your belt might have suffered some damage...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 03, 2010, 09:47:53 PM
aaa rite now i get ya i cant wait to get stuck in n get it sorted thanks for all the help n will let you no how it goes...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 03, 2010, 09:49:54 PM
...yeah dude, post back!!!...

 ;D
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 04, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
had no look with it i have been told that i need a new bendix coz when the starter motor spins it its not movin out towards the bigger cog is that rite?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 04, 2010, 09:31:51 PM
..well, that's wat the bendix does, it extends to the drive face when the starter motor spins it...

..if the starter motor's output shaft isn't long enough, it will not spin the bendix..

..you can easily see this by removing the cvt cover, and taking a look at it...

..should be able to see the end of the motor's output shaft where it's teeth mesh with the teeth of the bendix...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 04, 2010, 09:37:42 PM
the bendix does spin but does not move outwards so was told it was spring in bendix does that sound about rite?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 04, 2010, 09:52:40 PM
..what direction is the bendix spinning...clockwise or counter?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 04, 2010, 10:02:36 PM
clockwise i think what should i do if its counter?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 04, 2010, 10:16:22 PM
..it should spin clockwise...i'm not sure how to reverse the motor's polarity...hhmmm...

..but if it is spinning the wrong direction, the bendix will not extend...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 04, 2010, 10:25:09 PM
is it possible to fit a 125 engine to 50 frame?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: art on August 05, 2010, 05:58:29 AM
Nothing is impossible!!!  But you will need some tools  ;)
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 05, 2010, 11:46:10 AM
the cog that the bendix goes onto seems quite stiff it still turns but cant do it by hand is usual or is there summat wrong?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 05, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
the cog that the bendix goes onto seems quite stiff it still turns

..do you mean the one that's about 4 inches in diameter??

..if so, that's your drive face, and the stiffnes is a result of the cylinder's compression...

..did you verify that the bendix is spinning in the right direction?

..there has been instances where a newly installed starter motor would turn backwards...
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 05, 2010, 01:31:30 PM
when the bendix spins it spins anti clockwise and comes out...how do i change it to clockwise?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 05, 2010, 09:43:11 PM
..imma have to google the fix for that one, because it has only one wire for voltage..and a ground wire that is attached by a screw...


..anybody know how to reverse the polarity of the starter motor??

 ???
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 05, 2010, 10:27:48 PM
when the bendix spins it spins anti clockwise and comes out

..are you saying that it falls out of it's seat? or extends....
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 05, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
no i mean it comes out to the other cog but then it stops so is that weak battery?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 06, 2010, 12:04:13 AM
...possibly..

..but we need to combine these two threads...

..im getting confused...lol..

..post on the other one with the vid..k?


peace
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: sefton on August 06, 2010, 01:11:16 PM
my electric starter wont work does any1 know how i can fix this please ??
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: jay20 on August 06, 2010, 01:43:06 PM
have you took your starter motor out n see if it spins?
Title: Re: startup and variator
Post by: wordslinger on August 07, 2010, 01:59:12 AM
my electric starter wont work does any1 know how i can fix this please ??

..also, make sure the wire is connected to the motor...

..mine fell off once before...

..what happens when you try to start your scoot with the pushbutton??

..i ask because there are MANY reasons a starter won't run...

..let's narrow down the possibilities..  ;D


peace