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General => Roadcraft => Topic started by: CROSSBOLT on July 30, 2017, 08:23:58 PM
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Went for two rides this week: 140 miles round trip to get a haircut. 195 miles round trip to deliver used Walmart plastic bags to a trift store near Reelfoot Lake. 140 miles was in heat that would melt steel. The second trip was absolutely PERFECT! On the way back during the second trip I caught up with eight riders in a tight group. I fell in behind for a while and noticed several things: Ride discipline in the leader was disturbing as his speed varied a great deal from 65 to 48 and back without rhyme or reason. All riders were grouped side-by-side and generally 2 to four bike-lengths as the "formation" slinkied back and forth due to the changing speed. All were wearing helmets but that was it! No armored skid suits and few gloves. Bare arms and shorts. I finally got bored and went on during one of the slow segments. Waved to everyone and went my way. All Harleys. All that money spent. Very little safety gear and practically no sense!
Karl
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Went for two rides this week: 140 miles round trip to get a haircut. 195 miles round trip to deliver used Walmart plastic bags to a trift store near Reelfoot Lake. 140 miles was in heat that would melt steel. The second trip was absolutely PERFECT! On the way back during the second trip I caught up with eight riders in a tight group. I fell in behind for a while and noticed several things: Ride discipline in the leader was disturbing as his speed varied a great deal from 65 to 48 and back without rhyme or reason. All riders were grouped side-by-side and generally 2 to four bike-lengths as the "formation" slinkied back and forth due to the changing speed. All were wearing helmets but that was it! No armored skid suits and few gloves. Bare arms and shorts. I finally got bored and went on during one of the slow segments. Waved to everyone and went my way. All Harleys. All that money spent. Very little safety gear and practically no sense!
Karl
Karl !!
70 miles to the barber!?
95 miles to deliver used plastic bags.?!
Shee-oot, now I don't feel dumb going 30 miles for a cup of joe!
Dadgum, no accountin' for scooter riders!
I read about a big ball of string that's only 1200 miles away! (or maybe it was foil. Even better!)
As my granny used to say - "That man's a caution!"
Stig
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That group sounds like an accident waiting to happen Karl! Wish I could have been there buddy. We could have ridden at a smooth constant pace in a staggered formation. That inconsistent stuff drives me crazy.
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That group sounds like an accident waiting to happen Karl! Wish I could have been there buddy. We could have ridden at a smooth constant pace in a staggered formation. That inconsistent stuff drives me crazy.
I will second that, Mr. Paul. $15K to $25K on an HD with no safety gear and riding in a formation that guarantees a bowling alley spare should someone flinch....drives me crazy too.
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Never been a fan of group riding. Group meetup from various starting points, sure. 3 bikes or more starts to mess with the energy and freedom of bike riding and it becomes that little train at the park.
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Yah! 70 miles to the barber! 97.5 miles for an errand! Just shows ANY excuse to ride is valid! Any formation leader should know that steady and predictable makes for a good formation.
Karl
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Yah! 70 miles to the barber! 97.5 miles for an errand! Just shows ANY excuse to ride is valid! Any formation leader should know that steady and predictable makes for a good formation.
Karl
So a 30 mile ride to take a leak is the norm?!
Ah...America...[emoji1] [emoji106]
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No, Jeeves! That is not justified. I would not make it! Old guys are like $50 Cadillacs trying to pass a gas station!
Karl
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My days of group rides seems to shrink as I prefer solo riding now myself. Last time I was attending a motorcycle meet and greet, 2 Goldwings pulling trailers, collided in the campground parking lot knocking a rider off his trike and landed in the hospital and 2 bikes and trailers that had to be hauled a long distance back home. Too many accidents waiting to happen.
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I live out in the country so no trip is trivial. It's 22 miles r/t just to go to the gas station. I live on a 20 acre hilltop and sometimes I'll ride wifey's scooter or my CT90 the 1/4 mile to the mailbox because I don't wanna hoof it back up the hill.
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I live out in the country so no trip is trivial. It's 22 miles r/t just to go to the gas station. I live on a 20 acre hilltop and sometimes I'll ride wifey's scooter or my CT90 the 1/4 mile to the mailbox because I don't wanna hoof it back up the hill.
No neighbours nearby?
I envy you....[emoji106]
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It's funny how someone will pay double digit K for a bike, nothing for safety gear, then triple digit K for medial cost, or maybe a funeral. Maybe it's a matter of peer pressure overruling intelligence. Or no intelligence.
Karl, if you can do 200 miles for an Errand, you need to consider doing an Ironbutt run.
- Wolf
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Does Ironbutt tolerate stops every 50 miles to drain the sumps?
Karl
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Does Ironbutt tolerate stops every 50 miles to drain the sumps?
Karl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z107mIwpbp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z107mIwpbp0)
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Har, har!
Karl
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I had a friend who once rode with the Victor McLaglen Motor Corp.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/04-Charity-events-and-Red/Love-Ride-2013/i-gk6kNTq/1/d7524fef/S/_MG_1406-S.jpg)
Would that count ?
redk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDfjzEgOY7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDfjzEgOY7k)
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I think the coolest thing about groups is getting to meet other owners and see all kinds of scoots. Group riding does require more attention due to the limited space around you but most scoot riders are a little better than say the sport bike guys, some of which do plenty of stupid things like passing in no passing zones or on blind corners. One I went on recently we rode around town and I got to see some things I didn't even know we're there. Then there is the attention you get riding around with a bunch of scoots. :D
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I probably have more saddle time in group rides than solo, both as Chaplin and Road Captain, on Harleys, in the CMA and Faith Riders. All rides began with a prayer and a safety talk, that included a re-cap of the group riding rules. All rides ended safely, except one. In this case, an injury occurred as a result of a broken rule. The rule she broke was, "ride your own ride." She thought she had to maintain a set distance between herself and the rider to her front, regardless if that required taking curves at a higher speed than she was comfortable with. She straightened a curve and smacked a tree. Had to be air-lifted out and still has a bad limp, ten years later. She later told me she thought ride your own ride meant one a bike she owned. I faulted myself for not asking if everyone understood the rules and what they meant. I made that my closing statement, there after, each safety talk. As far as what one should wear, well body armor is good and a must on rockets, but bike riding is all about freedom, TO ME, and that includes what I wear. My only rule on that was Helmets , (DOT approved) ALWAYS, shorts or barefoot NEVER. I doubt that many here will agree with any of this, but it's worked well for me for the pass 63 years and counting. If it ain't broke, don't fix it till it is.
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I think the coolest thing about groups is getting to meet other owners and see all kinds of scoots. Group riding does require more attention due to the limited space around you but most scoot riders are a little better than say the sport bike guys, some of which do plenty of stupid things like passing in no passing zones or on blind corners. One I went on recently we rode around town and I got to see some things I didn't even know we're there. Then there is the attention you get riding around with a bunch of scoots. :D
Thank you for saying that as there are many positive benefits of doing group rides like what you said about seeing other bikes and their mods and meeting new friends. When I rode Goldwings I attended their forum meet and greets and continue to do so. It's taken me to places like Dodge City, Kansas; Maggie Valley, North Carolina; Palo Duro Canyon, Texas; Eureka Springs, Arkansas; Hot Springs, Arkansas; 3 Twisted Sisters, south Texas, Colorado and Big Bend. We get together once a year for a SW M&G.
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Thank you for saying that as there are many positive benefits of doing group rides like what you said about seeing other bikes and their mods and meeting new friends. When I rode Goldwings I attended their forum meet and greets and continue to do so. It's taken me to places like Dodge City, Kansas; Maggie Valley, North Carolina; Palo Duro Canyon, Texas; Eureka Springs, Arkansas; Hot Springs, Arkansas; 3 Twisted Sisters, south Texas, Colorado and Big Bend. We get together once a year for a SW M&G.
It's just like the Jeep thing I've been doing for nearly two decades. We get together with old friends or meet new ones, talk Jeeps, modifications, and hit the trails together. I've ridden along, driven my own Jeep or truck, and even led trails. I think it's so cool to share or help people getting into whatever you're interested in. I've been some pretty amazing places and met some of the nicest people. Good groups also look after each other providing assistance when necessary which in some of the remote places I've been can even be a life saver. Groups aren't for everyone and that's fine too. There are times I just like to do my own thing or sometimes there are a few folks that like the same things I do and we do them together.
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Saw a great teeshirt: "It takes money to ride a Harley; it takes balls to ride a scooter".
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Saw a great teeshirt: "It takes money to ride a Harley; it takes balls to ride a scooter".
That is fantastic! ;D ;D ;D We need that on a sticker we can put on our top cases. Tee shirt would be great as well.