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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stig / Major Tom on June 13, 2017, 01:21:22 AM
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Is anyone selling a 300 class scooter with ABS for around $4,650, or less, in the USA?
Was looking at a new Honda CB300F ABS tyoday.
Will not buy again without ABS.
Stig
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I believe both the Forza, & the Vespa 300's have ABS available at least, not sure if standard.
And of course the BV350 has it if you want a step quicker than those.
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I believe both the Forza, & the Vespa 300's have ABS available at least, not sure if standard.
And of course the BV350 has it if you want a step quicker than those.
Forza is $1500 more expensive than the Honda bike....the Vespa is a million more, give or take....and the admittedly lovely Bev 350 is a pricey lady, too.
True, scoots can carry lots of stuff.....but I carry little more tha a half drunk coffee, 99% of the time. A string bag on my back would do me fine.
Stig
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Always on the hunt. That's what riders do. BTW, sweet bike. Amazing it has ability to top out at 106.
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My dealer says the new 2018 Kymco X Town 300 with front ABS supposed to be in the US sometime in September. $3999.00
CJS
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My dealer says the new 2018 Kymco X Town 300 with front ABS supposed to be in the US sometime in September. $3999.00
CJS
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What country ?
That would be amazing...since the current DT 300 without ABS lists for $5400 in the USA!!
A $1400 price cut while adding front ABS ??
Stig
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Forza is $1500 more expensive than the Honda bike....the Vespa is a million more, give or take....and the admittedly lovely Bev 350 is a pricey lady, too.
True, scoots can carry lots of stuff.....but I carry little more tha a half drunk coffee, 99% of the time. A string bag on my back would do me fine.
Stig
Not sure where you're at precisely but if the Forza is one you'd do those are on cycletrader in your range. The Beverly...welll that would be an insane deal new, & that scoot does seem to sell. Used, with the ABS. Haven't seen one yet, quite, but close.
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What country ?
That would be amazing...since the current DT 300 without ABS lists for $5400 in the USA!!
A $1400 price cut while adding front ABS ??
Stig
Looks interesting.
A little less displacement 276/299 and a few less ponies 23/29 than the DT300 also.
Also 2 valve and a little porky. Also looks like the People 300i is on its way out. Also notice the DT350 was a "thud".
ABS front only ?
http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/ (http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/)
AMAC
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Looks interesting.
A little less displacement 276/299 and a few less ponies 23/29 than the DT300 also.
Also 2 valve and a little porky. Also looks like the People 300i is on its way out. Also notice the DT350 was a "thud".
ABS front only ?
http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/ (http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/)
AMAC
Thanks AMAC for that post/review...
Seemed too good to be true - cool idea of Kymco to get into that price range with a highway capable 250-300 class scooter. Not an interstate cruiser maybe - but will enable some cross town runs on the super slab. And the salesmen will no longer be fibbing when they mention "highway capable" when standing next to a scooter.
The SYM is out there, but Kymco has a much better factory/dealer back-up.
They mention the engine has 4 valves, not two, if I read it correctly.
I made a guess that the new 150 LIKE would have more speed and poop than the old 163cc version - seems Kymco spent a few more $ on the engine and we'll get more grunt.
I kinda think of my under-stressed 163cc LIKE engine to be a bit like a tractor. Has some power to move a quarter ton of me & scooter with some surprise - but we're not going to win any races in the 125-150 class. I don't race many scooters - so I like my LIKE.
Stig
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It seems my link had some errors.
Kymco says 2-valve, also found it has Bosch abs both wheels.
http://kymco.com.sg/x-town-300i-abs/ (http://kymco.com.sg/x-town-300i-abs/)
AMAC
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Nice story on 3 new Kymco scoots currently on motorcyclistonline.com. Says Xtown 300i has front only ABS (?)....for $3999.
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Nice story on 3 new Kymco scoots currently on motorcyclistonline.com. Says Xtown 300i has front only ABS (?)....for $3999.
Direct link, good article. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/kymco-scooter-xciting-400i-xtown-300i-like-150i-first-ride-review-test (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/kymco-scooter-xciting-400i-xtown-300i-like-150i-first-ride-review-test)
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Direct link, good article. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/kymco-scooter-xciting-400i-xtown-300i-like-150i-first-ride-review-test (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/kymco-scooter-xciting-400i-xtown-300i-like-150i-first-ride-review-test)
Ive been reading reviews that varied about specs. Some reviews say 2-valve some say four. Others state abs front only. Yet others say air cooled.
I found a Kymco site with specs.
2 valve liquid cooled, Bosch abs both wheels.
http://kymco.com.sg/x-town-300i-abs/ (http://kymco.com.sg/x-town-300i-abs/)
So much misinformation in print on this one.
AMAC
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Ive been reading reviews that varied about specs. Some reviews say 2-valve some say four. Others state abs front only. Yet others say air cooled.
I found a Kymco site with specs.
2 valve liquid cooled, Bosch abs both wheels.
http://kymco.com.sg/x-town-300i-abs/ (http://kymco.com.sg/x-town-300i-abs/)
So much misinformation in print on this one.
Kymco doesn't even list how many valves on it's own site nor which brakes may have ABS. http://www.kymco.com/product/maxi-scooters/X-Town-300i-ABS_HERO/ (http://www.kymco.com/product/maxi-scooters/X-Town-300i-ABS_HERO/) . All reviews I read show front ABS only and a liquid cooled 276cc engine but two conflict on the number of valves.
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/05/27/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-scooter-review-12-fast-facts/ (https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/05/27/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-scooter-review-12-fast-facts/)
http://www.cycleworld.com/2018-kymco-spade-150-xciting-400i-abs-xtown-300i-abs-like-150i-abs-first-ride-review#page-6 (http://www.cycleworld.com/2018-kymco-spade-150-xciting-400i-abs-xtown-300i-abs-like-150i-abs-first-ride-review#page-6)
http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/ (http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/)
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Stig,
Did you sell the Forza for the Burgman for the passenger carrying capacity or was there a problem with the Forza?
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Stig,
Did you sell the Forza for the Burgman for the passenger carrying capacity or was there a problem with the Forza?
Hello Lido,
Yes, went for the difference in load capacity : 421lbs for the Burgman400 vs 359lbs for the Forza300. Most two-up riders are over the specified load limit on their machine. I pay attention to that listed figure.
I'm 6'3" & @260lbs. so the Honda was fine one-up, but the Burgman would be needed for two-up.
The idea was that I'd talk Mrs. Stig into riding along - sadly (or wisely) she is not getting comfortable with that plan.
"problems with the Forza?":
No.
IF I buy another scooter it will be the new LIKE150i, or a lightly used Forza ABS - which will probably be about the same $ OTD.
After which I will sell the Burgman400. Then I'll stop screwing around. I've learned what I like, and what I don't.
Why back to a Honda Forza?:
The Thailand made Forza and Japan made Suzuki are equally well made, IMHO. Both had new scoot teething issues when launched - frankly the Forza's were any easier fix....some owners have yet to get the recall done, or have any issues w/the fuel pump.
The Burgman is a 65-80mph highway cruising scooter, has 2" more seat/leg room - is a handful in the city.
The Forza, at 70lbs lighter and an inch less wheelbase, was not as reassuring at those high speeds with cars/trucks. The Forza has a low center of gravity, and is smooth & easier to ride in the city - and a blast on 35-55mph county roads.
I kept the Forza exactly 365 days. Enjoyed it.
Loved the Forza - love the LIKE200i - also own a newish Burgman400. I won't miss much about it if/when it is gone.
I'm no scooter expert but, for me & my preferred riding, the Forza is a better scooter. ( I have a sketchy Kymco dealer, but two PowerSeller all-Honda stores nearby)
(https://s23.postimg.org/r3476gn1n/forumforza19.jpg)
(https://s29.postimg.org/txtzw6l3r/forumforza20.jpg)
Stig
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Kymco doesn't even list how many valves on it's own site nor which brakes may have ABS. http://www.kymco.com/product/maxi-scooters/X-Town-300i-ABS_HERO/ (http://www.kymco.com/product/maxi-scooters/X-Town-300i-ABS_HERO/) . All reviews I read show front ABS only and a liquid cooled 276cc engine but two conflict on the number of valves.
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/05/27/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-scooter-review-12-fast-facts/ (https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/05/27/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-scooter-review-12-fast-facts/)
http://www.cycleworld.com/2018-kymco-spade-150-xciting-400i-abs-xtown-300i-abs-like-150i-abs-first-ride-review#page-6 (http://www.cycleworld.com/2018-kymco-spade-150-xciting-400i-abs-xtown-300i-abs-like-150i-abs-first-ride-review#page-6)
http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/ (http://gearopen.com/rides/2018-kymco-xtown-300i-abs-review-first-ride-58616/)
and the fact that Kymco is vague is a cause of concern for me.
Why scrap a great motor for a lesser version. If it's price point it will be a swing and a miss.
I'm underwhelmed.
But I'm overwhelmed with the AK and the Grand Dink 300. We will never see the Dink but with the new lineup I'd imagine the AK is soon to be here.
AMAC