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Scooters - 50cc => People 50 => Topic started by: Marko on June 25, 2010, 03:47:34 AM

Title: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 25, 2010, 03:47:34 AM
My 00 ppl has never been as fast as my 05 but now its just getting bad on the steep hills, The rollers and the belt have about 2K kil on them and they look fine. This is a derestriced scoot but no up grades except the boss, Its seems normal on the flat about 45 but the hills it just is a dog.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 25, 2010, 04:08:58 AM
They usually dog a little bit I've found the 2004 and older are usually quicker,they have a less restricted pipe.I would try to get an #85 main jet in it clean the carb and air filter and also a 3/8" hole in the air box (on the outer cover) will get you to 50+mph may need to go to a #90 or #95 main with the hole.Welcome to the forum!Check out my other post when your ready to mod one of them.P.S. How many miles on that 2000
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 25, 2010, 04:23:57 AM
I have just under 5k on the Od Ive had this scoot for 5 years. I suspected carb cleaning . I used to talk on another forum a few years ago but there just wasn't much action. Was happy to find this one. I did a stage 2 on a Zuma several years ago had a soft seize, fixed it, rode it, but got tired of the noise so I bought the ppl and sold the Zuma.    So what should I soak that carb in?
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 25, 2010, 04:35:14 AM
I like to use carb cleaner and compressed air.Disasemble and Hit every hole you can find then do it again.5000 not much on the people,I'd run a good synthetic also if not already.My sorta stock build has about 8500 on it and it looked great inside,running as is with some mods.I do have a piston and rings on order just incase though.Not alot of people now the people 50 yet.Great bike I love it!
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 25, 2010, 05:18:39 AM
Yah not many know about the people 50 but I like it better than the zuma, I had a Ruckus for a while, slow, too many strokes but still cool. I have a 74 vespa sprint too, a barn find, 4k original miles and paint, its very cool but there is something to say about modern scoots (easy). I got the air box off its tight in there. It shows I have a 85 stock jet where do I get the right parts- #90 or #95? SW, Provo?
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 25, 2010, 05:40:53 AM
Every people I have owned has had a different stock jet in it as small as #68 to #75,You will want to look.I think scooterworks has the right jets for the keihin pb carb 7mm i believe.Its kinda an oddball The ones from provo are 8mm i believe and don't fit the stock attomizer,It can be tapped for these jets thats what I did.I've had some luck with the local shops picking them up if you have one in your hands for them to match it, but havn't found a reliable place to order yet.Ya I got a 63 vbb I'm going to build just got the 172cc kit for it and crank,no time for it yet.Wish it was a barn find,my sister ordered it from asia the motor was junk,got lucky though the body is good no bondo that i can find and the paint is O.K.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 25, 2010, 05:57:28 AM
If you have been reading around the forum most are just drilling there jets at home seems the torch head cleaning kit is the hot setup and some calipers.I don't have this setup yet.Saves some time and running around and you can repair you mistakes with a drop of solder and re drill.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 25, 2010, 06:09:59 AM
Sounds like I'll be in to it this weekend and I will figure out what I have. I had to rebuild my sprint motor too those booges from asia are a little scary but I have heard some success stories sounds like you might be ok. The paint on mine is bad but I'm going to leave it. I shined it up and it looks pretty good. Thanks for the pointers.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 25, 2010, 10:45:23 PM
Hey marko just another thought,there is a gas filter in the bottem of the unit for your fuel and vac lines at the petcock You might want to check that out too,just looked at mine on the 02 looked a little fuzzy seemed clear but breaking down a bit.I removed and put a filter in line.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 27, 2010, 06:15:47 AM
hey Art I completly dismantled the carb and cleaned it, its back up to speed, thanks. I looked around for some torch tip cleaners but couldnt find any and the welding shops were all closed. It looks like (printed on the jet) I have a #80 main jet I'll have to get the tip cleaners and work on that. For now its just fine I walk away from all other 50cc bikes and reliability is nice too.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 27, 2010, 04:01:57 PM
Do the jet and the hole in the airbox and you'll walk away from your 2005 Ha!Glad it worked out for ya!Good luck.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 29, 2010, 03:24:33 AM
My scoot runs so good now I think I better do the plug chop. These 2strks always run best just before they seize.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 29, 2010, 03:33:11 AM
Deffently take a look at that plug,did ya get the bigger jet in?Is the 2000 faster than your 2005 now?They usually are.Sound good so far.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: wordslinger on June 30, 2010, 03:22:13 AM
These 2strks always run best just before they seize.

...dang...that sucks....

 ;D
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: zombie on June 30, 2010, 03:52:22 AM
Don't worry slinger. If it were too good to be tru you would have been walking by now. Welcome aboard Marko! Just for future reference... Chem Dip is what I use for soaking carbs. It comes in a gallon can, and can be re used forever. (just about) The can says soak for 3-4 hours, but I found 24-48 hrs. is best. Just be SURE to soak ONLY metal, as anything else will disappear. The Ttourch tip cleaners are about 7 bucks a set, and every size you will ever need for a scoot is in there.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 30, 2010, 04:32:49 AM
Chem Dip sound like that otta cleeeeean it up. Haven't had a chance to put my 00 up to 05 since the carb clean but I will this weekend headed to a resort town in eastern Washinton called Lqke Chelan I have a bunch of RV friends with scoots over there we will be puttin around on all the orchard and vinyard roads up to eight scoots at once.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: wordslinger on June 30, 2010, 04:33:49 AM
...that sounds like a frikin blast.....
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 30, 2010, 04:36:36 AM
Hey I'm in portland oregon how for north are ya?
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 30, 2010, 04:42:40 AM
Live 10min from Seattle.  Lake Chelan 3.5 hrs east its a resort town kinda like Bend,
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 30, 2010, 04:47:13 AM
Bit of a drive but if ya got the rv I have parking!We could get that thing going in no time ha!Bring beer!!!
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 30, 2010, 05:02:04 AM
Might do a ride on San Juan Island later (Sept) we were going the weekend before Momorial day but it rained tring to reschedule. Interested? If you want to bring others they have ppl 50s to rent there right by the ferry at Suzies Mopeds check it out on line.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 30, 2010, 05:09:21 AM
Keep me posted.I could go into the people's rental business at this point.I do have about an acre if you need a plce to park.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: Marko on June 30, 2010, 05:23:45 AM
I leave my RV in Chelan all year round its just to big to travel much 34' 5th wheel  hauled to Hood River about 4 yrs ago I think it cost about 350.00 in gas rnd trip (Dodge V10) we stayed for a week so it was worth it but othewise motel.
Title: Re: Slows down going up hills
Post by: art on June 30, 2010, 05:38:44 AM
I hear ya there,Ha! Don't think I could afford the motel though for all my trips.