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Scooters - 50cc => zx50 => Topic started by: robmsz on June 18, 2010, 04:06:12 PM
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Before I buy A CDI unit for my '04 ZX-50 I need to know whether it's A AC or DC unit.
I've heard that the difference is if I have a an alternator it would be AC and the rectifier would change it to DC and a generator would make it a DC CDI ? I'm not sure if this is right so if anyone can clarify this it would be a great help!
UPDATE....! ! ! I just received a callback from KYMCO in N.C. and was told it uses BOTH AC & DC circuitry & it is model specific. Now I don't know if I was told that for job security or there is such thing as both A AC/DC CDI. I almost bought one today that was DC and canceled my order because I thought I read somewhere that the CDI was AC.
So if anyone knows any different let me know.....
Has ANYONE had ANY experience with buying a CDI from the states?
After I install it I'll report back with who I purchased it from,price + shipping,how long it took to receive & how long it lasted if applicable.
I'd also like to know what the ZX-50 engine is generally called EX; GY6 ? or something to that effect?
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I don't know about the cdi, but I think the engine is SC10.
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Anyone know anymore about the ZX-50 CDI?
anyone?
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Ac fired Bro! You're on the right track going to Suitai. Theirs is made for the zx, and nothing else.
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Thats what I figured then! It's not some outrageous AC/DC hybrid that I can ONLY get from KYMCO!
As long as it's an AC CDI and the plugs match it should work then right?
The reason I ask is because I just might go with another one so I can limp by while I'm waiting for one from SUTAI & I wanted to make sure that I was looking in the right area before I started sampling DC CDI's on top of the AC ones!
I'll have to wait till Sunday night to order one from SUTAI because it should be Monday morning then in Taipei, Taiwan.
This way I can leave a review about the supplier and the CDI itself.
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...so...i thought the ppl 50 and the zx engines were kinda the same...but from what i've read, the ppl has a dc cdi...hmmm..
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I have a stator that will convert yours to ac if you want. Then all you need to change is the wiring to the cdi. That is the ONLY difference in the two engines
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now i uave a ? about our cdi's... my cdi took another smack the other day when it was soooo hot here(89-90),humid as crap. anyway my cdi took a smack against shroud and exhaust and then the exhaust proceded to dry crack a portion of the cdi box itself on the ride home(never new it was hanging till i made it home). i would even swear it "skipped" several different times going over a rough patchs(like cut out, skip, idk)(rpms changed for sure).. i would also swear that i have lost upwards of 3mph.. otherwise starts great, etc. could you lose any top performance but retain all else on the cdi or will it just die out???? seen that cdi at s a, same as suitai huh? seems everybody has issues there..lol. wondering if that will become an issue down the road for me???
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I have a stator that will convert yours to ac if you want
..is there an advantage in switching to ac?
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I wouldn't think there is an advantage, that's just the way its set up.
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...cool...oem stays then...
;D
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now i uave a ? about our cdi's... my cdi took another smack the other day when it was soooo hot here(89-90),humid as crap. anyway my cdi took a smack against shroud and exhaust and then the exhaust proceded to dry crack a portion of the cdi box itself on the ride home(never new it was hanging till i made it home). i would even swear it "skipped" several different times going over a rough patchs(like cut out, skip, idk)(rpms changed for sure).. i would also swear that i have lost upwards of 3mph.. otherwise starts great, etc. could you lose any top performance but retain all else on the cdi or will it just die out???? seen that cdi at s a, same as suitai huh? seems everybody has issues there..lol. wondering if that will become an issue down the road for me???
she seems ok but seems to be weaker by a slight touch....am i just tripping??? (hippie grass dont make you trip..lmao)
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Heat is the enemy of the cdi. It is possible that it got damaged by melting on the pipe. I have had them just outright fail, and no more spark. I have had them heat up, and not run again until cool. I have also had them sputter as if it was only firing every second or third revolution. I guess it could loose some of it's UMPH. The only way to be sure is to try another one.
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thanks for answering zombie....ahhh crap, thats what i was thinking, she still fires, etc. but seems to have lost a slight touch of that umph!... guess ill have to make that trip to s.a(would really piss you off if out and about and quit)...lmao
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(would really piss you off if out and about and quit)
IT DID& I AM ! ! ! ! ! >:(
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:o :o oh sh**...dude you just made me nervous about riding...lmao...i hate to hear that....guess i had better get right then........
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LOL I KNOW ! ! !
IT SUCKS.......Esp. when the summer is counted in weeks here instead of months!
My part SHOULD be here by next week anyways........
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damnitt man, that way sux....what side of the pond are you on anyway???.. i hope it gets there soon, so i can know how it is...lmao
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The states, I'm in New York but no where close to NYC.
Actually I'm the farthest away in NY that you can get from NYC and still be in NY state! I dunno if you have ever heard of Niagara Falls? I'm about 40 miles or 55K's south of there.
Sorry for the little detour on the thread......
Let's hope the CDI gets here Tuesday, Wed...,Thur....,Fri......, maybe Sat?
And if that doesn't werk UH OH! it's back to the drawing board!
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yeah, i have heard of it but of course never been there.. cool beans, i am in n.c myself.... only weeks of summer, wow, thats gotta suck... pfht, everybody does it, no biggie.... hopefully tuesday..lol....
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I thought you were from Au or the UK thats why I simplified it (not a slight to our Au and UK riders!). Most people think when you say New York they think the whole state is NYC, just like when you say Florida they think Disneyland. Lotta ppl in the states think that also, so no slight intended to ANYONE!
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No offence taken, in Aus. we have riding weather all year round. I admit I didn't know disneyland was in Florida.
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It might be disneyworld but one of the two is in the Gunshine state!
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mmmm, riding weather all year..... yeah, ones in cali, other fla. no rob, in here...lmao... seems to be several countries in here, some strange laws about too...lmao
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when my cdi failed it spit and spuddered it had spark but wouldnt fire noway nohow till i put ice on it and she fired up just fine and ran till she heated up in about 5 or 10 mins
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man, kindof makes you want to keep a spare handy... ;D
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I had to tell Suitai I was buying them by the six pack before they sent me a programed cdi.
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...second six coming...
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hmmm, so what is the secret on actually speaking to someone at suitai????... i was out yesterday, going down a big hill wot, as soon as it hit right around 60mph, she cut out again, was fine when she caught up.... the rev limiter is history, why would it do that, is there a safety limiter inside incase you max????
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..my people did that with the short belt..
..right at the very top rpm...running wide open...
..neverr did it with the 748 though...
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you wouldnt think a belt would have anything to do with it....hmm,
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..there was a marked reduction in engine rpms with the longer belt at top speed...
..i think that was the key...
..wth the short belt, at 60 mph, the engines was SCREAMING...
..748 belt kept it at a more comfortable sounding rpm...
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Batman, how are you going with a cdi? ebay, scooter wolf pack, honda dio race cdi, $10+$8 shipping, see my cdi thread to hook it up, mine starts a lot better.
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i think its ok so far...man, that is a sweet price.....i looked at the thread before, ill have to recheck that one....
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I just had a look, I didn't end up putting the wire combinations on there. If you get one, let me know and I will put up the wire connections.
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i do always have trouble finding rhese stores you shop at. thankfully, i had saved sa to my favs. tried to find them w/o the favs...failure...autotech355....failure.. i have seem em, i know the store is there.. :D :-\
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Is it this one, bat? :)
http://stores.ebay.com/Autotech355-Performance-Parts (http://stores.ebay.com/Autotech355-Performance-Parts)
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hey rhianna, what up?.. yep, i do believe thats the one....thanks..you are the sh**. ;)
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Hiya, bat. I'm glad I'm not the only trying to figure stuff out at 10:00 at night...lol.
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guess that means we BOTH are having a boring social life these days....... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( ....HERE, the scoot kills me mostly..women scerred of scooters..just like word said, they are called licker sickels in n.c ...to materialistic here in asheville. ::) >:(
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Materialistic...Man, folks are like that here, too! You don't need no women like that anyway, bat. The scared ones haven't developed no character yet. Run off crying when times get tough. U know what they say...tough times don't last...tough people do. ;)
licker sickels? Never heard that one before. lol Maybe you mean like the guy up the road that only uses his scoot to ride to the corner store and put another 6-pack under his seat when his beer runs out?
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Sounds pretty close.
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..in NC...you can operate a "50cc" scooter without a license...
..which is your relative state, after a dwi or similar conviction...
:-\
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Ahhh...gotcha. Here it's not legal, but people do it anyway.
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...yeah...i'm a year over being done with all that happy crappy...
..and still i scoot....
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You are enjoying your scooter. never had so much fun going so slow, trying to go a little faster. :)
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And saving money, too. You know the price of car insurance never goes down.
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the price of car insurance
never had so much fun going so slow, trying to go a little faster
...BING!!!!...
..give'm both a prize!!!!!!
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Oh, Boy! I hope a won a new tool set!!! ;D
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....yeah, i reckon you need one....lol..
..i'll ship you a spare allen wrench...
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I actually have 2 sets of those. It figures! lol
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How will I fare if I downgrade from a Myroad 700 to a Super 9?
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How will I fare if I downgrade from a Myroad 700 to a Super 9
..is that REALLY a DOWNgrade??
??? ;D ???
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That Super9 is pretty awesome.
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I was thinking of the price. I didnt win the myroad, so, just thought I would try.
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..personally, i'd rather ride the s9 over the myroad7....
..reckon i'm strange....
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Batman, here is the link for the cdi.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFORMANCE-CDI-HONDA-ELITE-DIO-SA50-SR50-SE50-NB50-/330475084216?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf1d999b8 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFORMANCE-CDI-HONDA-ELITE-DIO-SA50-SR50-SE50-NB50-/330475084216?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf1d999b8)
Gee, it looks like it worked.