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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Scooter Dan on October 14, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
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Hi guys, sorry I've been absent lately as our business has really picked up and I've been super busy. The good news though is I now have the money for another scooter as long as Deb is harmonious with it. She knows how much I loved my People S200 the short time I owned it and hoped the day would come when I could get another Kymco.
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Found a 2012 Like 200i with 3k for a grand on the Dallas CL. Blue and white like yours Stig and was ridden by a college kid for a few years. Original owner but has been dropped a few times and says some of the plastic is scratched but not broken and apparently broke a mirror which was replaced. Asked about service and said he did the oil change at 600 miles and one more so sounds like minimal service. The price is reasonable and probably would offer 800. I asked him to send me some pics of the Tupperware scratches tonight before committing to driving 150 miles to Dallas to see it. Does this sound like something I should pass on?
Another is a 2015 Anniversary edition with 95 miles in show room condition for 1995.00. It's a gorgeous scoter and I can afford it too ( not both of course). I'd love to have that scooter but it's double the price. What would you guys do?
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Test ride it and as long as its just cosmetic damages those can be fixed or ignored. Lots of people use stickers to hide blemishes. The anniversary edition would be nice as 95 miles is nothing and you should still be under warranty, but as you say its double the price. Other than paint scheme the scooters are identical. Let us know what you end up with. Good luck!
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I would spend the extra $$ and get the newer one, but that's just me. Is the college kid being honest? Minimal service? Did he just drop it a couple of times or was it something else.I would try to make a non insulting offer on the anniversary edition
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Thanks for your input. Waiting on pics from seller of 2012 Like. If the road rash is minimal may spring for it but have to say the Anniversary model is one handsome scoot. May ask for Deb's input too.
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Well, the pics came in tonight and the road rash appeared on nearly all the plastic and on both sides including the top box, exhaust and a damaged brake lever. If I were a beginner and looking for a first bike that I might drop too, this would be a good bike. I am going to pass and test the waters with Deb regarding the Anniversary model.
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Good luck, Scooter Dan. I'm in the same boat, as you, when it comes to buying new toys. Always have to check with the CFO!! Lol.
Rich
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Another scooter that has my interest is a 2011 Genuine Buddy 170i, Hunter Green for 1700.00. Looks like a one owner who bought a pair for he and his wife and has 587 miles. Looks very clean and probably in perfect condition. It also has a top box. What do y'all think of this scooter? I realize there's going to be allot of Kymco bias here but scooter owners generally have owned different brands and sometimes have more than one in the stable. Looks tiny to me with those 10" wheels. Kinda cute though. I'm not a big guy at 5'7" and 180 so I think I can fit on one of this size. I'll still keep my Honda Silverwing for 2up riding with Deb and for long distance cruising. But man O man did I have fun with my People S200 riding around town. Nothing like a small scooter to bring out the fun of riding.
Yes, you're right Pipster, the final say will be my wife to get her blessings. I hope this flies with her this time?
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Really stuck on the LIKE200i ?
Seems like the $2K area might find you a nice big wheeled Kymco or the SH150 Honda....with a bit of search and willingness to travel??
I don't see that used anniversary model as having an exceptional price.
Have seen new with warranty leftover LIKE200i 's for $1999.00.
A big wheel scooter is what you enjoyed so much....with fall coming on you might just score one for your avail. funds.
Many folks have trouble getting $2000 for their LIKE200i. ...or even $1500 if used. Scoot does not seem to have strong resale value in the real world. Me? I'd negotiate politely around $1500-$1700 for the gold one. And walk away with a hand shake if not possible. Too many good scoots out there for @$2,000.
Stig
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Really stuck on the LIKE200i ?
Seems like the $2K area might find you a nice big wheeled Kymco or the SH150 Honda....with a bit of search and willingness to travel??
I don't see that used anniversary model as having an exceptional price.
Have seen new with warranty leftover LIKE200i 's for $1999.00.
A big wheel scooter is what you enjoyed so much....with fall coming on you might just score one for your avail. funds.
Many folks have trouble getting $2000 for their LIKE200i. ...or even $1500 if used. Scoot does not seem to have strong resale value in the real world. Me? I'd negotiate politely around $1500-$1700 for the gold one. And walk away with a hand shake if not possible. Too many good scoots out there for @$2,000.
Stig
Good points Tom and well taken. I'm not particularly attached to the Like however I do like the retro Vespa look and that's why I've also considered the Buddy 170. And you're right the seller of the Anniversary model is selling at top dollar. I just liked the look of it. I missed out on a Downtown 300i for 2200 yesterday and that would have been a sweet scoot. I pitched the idea this morning to Deb about getting another small scooter and am considering getting a pet carrier for Toby, our 6 pound Yorkie (part Yorkie/Maltese). The jury us still out though on a new scoot as Deb hasn't said yea or nay yet. Fingers are crossed though. And yes Tom, I'm looking at all possibilities in that price range. As for big wheel scooters, I have one with my SW as I always have that for the big scooter feel which is why I'm considering something smaller. Thing is though, I've never owned a bike with midget wheels?
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I own both a Buddy 170i and a Buddy 125 and love them. Of all the scoots I own, these are my favorites to ride. They are rock solid reliable, fast and very little vibration. I have to say that I like them more than my Like 200's. They are just a blast to ride and unlike my Likes, I can easily fit two of them in the bed of my 2015 Chevy Colorado.
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Dan, what part of the world are you in?
If you''re in my neck of the world you could rent a buddy, & see if you like it.
Far as reliability, they seem to to OK, but probably have their foibles. http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/ (http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/) would have more on that
Cheers
Tromper
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I've never owned a bike with midget wheels?
Me neither....certainly would not want to go smaller than 12" wheels.....city streets are too rough, too often.
Maybe Buddies and Vespas have much better suspension to deal with it?
Stig
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Y'all might be roaring over this but the Honda Grom is also on my short list. BTW, the Buddy 170i sold today and the Anniversary Like, the seller had sellers remorse and is unavailable.
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I agree with Stig, I wouldn't get anything with less than 12" wheels. I have the DT300 and I have a little 150cc Lance Venice. I just ride the Venice, around my neighborhood, so the battery will stay charged. You can't even compare the ride, as far as stability and cornering. Bumps and potholes.... Fahgetaboutit!!!!!
I'm sure you will find something you like at a reasonable price.
Rich
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A Grom@@@"#%!! :)
Ah....nothing wrong with those little guys i guess. With a SW in the house you already know about Hondas. With oil changes the thing will probably last forever!
How about sitting a K-Pipe from Kymco? Bigger. Cheaper.
A clean leftover Vino 125? Those are pretty scoots....wine color like your SW.
Living vicariously here....
Stig
Take your time searching....buying a scooter is fun.
Flood damaged Ducati Monster!!??
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Take your time searching....buying a scooter is fun.....
Yup, that's for sure.
Hey Dan, FWIW, I test drove a Vespa 300 something or other before trying the gt300i and was a little uncomfortable on the 12" wheels (I'm a Triumph Explorer dual sport guy with no real scooter experience). The 16" wheels on the 300i were a lot like a motorcycle to me with the scooter advantages. I REALLY have been amazed at how much I like the 300i set up with its broad range of uses. Had minor knee surgery this past Monday and got yelled at by my wife when she found me out in the garage sitting on my 300i (with crutches leaning against the bike ;D).
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A Grom@@@"#%!! :)
That was my wife's reaction and she called it a mini bike. They look like a hoot though. However.....I've been getting the evil eye today from my other half about another bike. Geez, I thought it was about the $ and now that there's plenty available.....?? I just can't figure it out. May have to abandon this whole thing. I'm going to go over and sit in the corner. :-\
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She may be developing "scooter envy" Dan. Does this sound familiar, "Sometimes you spend more time on those scooters than with me....." If that is the case buy flowers and take her out to a nice restaurant and explain that you want to replace one of your older, obsolete, worn out scooters with a newer and SAFER one. That way you can spend more healthy quality time with her. ;) ;) ;)
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She may be developing "scooter envy" Dan. Does this sound familiar, "Sometimes you spend more time on those scooters than with me....." If that is the case buy flowers and take her out to a nice restaurant and explain that you want to replace one of your older, obsolete, worn out scooters with a newer and SAFER one. That way you can spend more healthy quality time with her. ;) ;) ;)
Now that's funny, thanks for the laugh, I needed that. Actually though, I've been spending less time in the saddle and have given up so many things related to riding like spending time with her now on Saturdays instead of riding with our local bike club and gave up meet and greets with a Goldwing club I used to go to. Now about the only ride time I'm doing is going to Home Depot or the coffee shop and only occasionally. This really depesses me and I'm sorry for the catharsis guys. I just feel bummed out over this whole matter. Well, at least I have my SW and if that's the only one I can have it is one sweet bike.
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May be you can find a compromise. I get the guilt hit from my wife when I ride too often on the weekends and she's out running around taking the kids here and there. I came up with a compromise. She and the kids generally sleep in on the weekends. So I get up with the roosters and ride for hours and return home around 10:00 am. The benefit is huge. No nagging from the one who must be obeyed, cool mornings, fresh air and very few vehicles on the road.
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Heck I just make sure my wife has a scoot she likes to ride, but I'm just kinda practical that way. ::)
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I generally get the opposite. My wife's the one who orders me to take her for a ride. Scooter Therapy, as she calls it, because it allows her to get away from things and relax. I actually get the stink-eye if I dare think about going for a ride without her.
Friday was our Anniversary, and I have Monday off today. What are we doing? Riding. I think TroutBum's idea is the best. Mornings are the best because the world is essentially asleep. Just watch out for deer and other animals, and avoid roads that have what I call the Contractor Rush Hours. These are the early risers who have to get to a work site early, and cause congestion before the normal rush hour commuters.
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I know alot of Grom riders if you're thinking bout one maybe you should check out the Kymco K Pipe it's about 1K cheaper brand new I believe
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Well, at least I have my SW and if that's the only one I can have it is one sweet bike.
Yeah, these SWs are not exactly a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
For my $$ the Honda SilverWings are the tops in the USA scooter world.
A bunch of us ride much smaller scooters ....and find our rides to be plenty fast and a lot of fun - even handsome designs, some of them.
As a longtime aircooled VW owner - we VW nuts always longed for one thing ...to own a Stuttgart built Porsche.
For some of us scooter owners - the Japanese built Honda Silver Wing is the same thing.
Though I understand your upset - your situation could be a lot worse, but you know that.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2vmvsl1.jpg)
Well done in your relationship with both of your beauties.
Stig
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Had a talk tonight with my family and I have some soul searching to do about my selfishness. And the ideas shared here about finding more appropriate times to ride like in the early morning that doesn't interfere with time with my family is spot on. So, thanks guys for all you've shared and hope to chime in with Stig and others with some early morning coffee ride pics on my SW.
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.....hope to chime in with Stig and others with some early morning coffee ride pics on my SW.
Now yah got it Dan. You'll get out. Get to explore. Experience the freedom we can talk about but not really explain to those that don't ride. Looking forward to your first report.
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May be you can find a compromise. I get the guilt hit from my wife when I ride too often on the weekends and she's out running around taking the kids here and there. I came up with a compromise. She and the kids generally sleep in on the weekends. So I get up with the roosters and ride for hours and return home around 10:00 am. The benefit is huge. No nagging from the one who must be obeyed, cool mornings, fresh air and very few vehicles on the road.
Perfect solution there Trout and Dan!
Exactly what I do. And for the same benefits you're finding.
Plus getting out of the sack at 5:00am is good for the ........something.
I'm home on school days for the 7:45 school run and then the 8:15 three mile forced march with the puppy. She loves climbing those hills...and if it doesn't kill me - is probably good for me.
I played golf every Sat. for 20 yrs.....at day break. The starter let me pay when I came off the 18th. Freq. out there with the guys mowing the greens. Home by 10:30 with them all still in their jammies.
Hobbies can be worked with a family.
We can sleep in when we get old. !!
Stig
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You guys are the greatest. Going to roam our off beat coffee shops as we have several and test drive their coffee and figure out opening times. Another opportunity to ride that doesn't take away from the family is to just use the scooter instead of the car for those short hops to the grocery store for some creamer or an avocado. My SW has better than 50 litres under the seat and Givi top box is 46 litres. I can haul allot of groceries on board. Geez, I could start another side business as a scooter shopper for the home bound.
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Yup, that's for sure.
... Had minor knee surgery this past Monday and got yelled at by my wife when she found me out in the garage sitting on my 300i (with crutches leaning against the bike ;D).
Hey, that makes you our kind of person! I rode for 6 weeks with a medical boot thingy on my right foot (fracture) last year despite the wife's protests. And she often finds me sitting on my scooter in the garage whimpering when the snow flies.
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I'm not a coffee drinker, but I got to wondering. When you get up early to ride and stop for coffee are you getting the first fresh brewed pot of the day or last night's remains? Just curious. ;)
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Great plan Dan! Thats pretty much what I do. I commute to work and rarely drive my car. My Helix has a large trunk and I have a Besteem top box on it. I can haul all the groceries and stuff my wife and I need. My mom is in an assisted living home about 60 miles away so that is my normal weekend ride. (Sometimes my brother joins me on his Burgman) We all have to compromise to do what is best for everyone. Keep it up man!
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Hey, that makes you our kind of person! I rode for 6 weeks with a medical boot thingy on my right foot (fracture) last year despite the wife's protests. And she often finds me sitting on my scooter in the garage whimpering when the snow flies.
I've wondered if i could put my red temp. handicap tag on my scooter mirror and use those spaces. Dealing with nonriding foot injury for 7weeks. Doc gave me paperwork for the tag....picked up 2 at DMV.
Probably look weird. .....better not try it i guess. °¿°
Stig
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I'm not a coffee drinker, but I got to wondering. When you get up early to ride and stop for coffee are you getting the first fresh brewed pot of the day or last night's remains? Just curious. ;)
No way would a coffee shop ever sell me a 2nd cup if it was old.
Dino's, UnderDog and Spirited Goat sell tremendously powerful and fresh cups of Joe an hour before sunrise. (stuff is like expensive aftermarket scooter pipes.....you just THINK you're going faster due to the noise & $$ you've spent)
Dino gets the jump on them by 1/4 hour FYI.
$tig °¿°
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I've wondered if i could put my red temp. handicap tag on my scooter mirror and use those spaces. Dealing with nonriding foot injury for 7weeks. Doc gave me paperwork for the tag....picked up 2 at DMV.
Probably look weird. .....better not try it i guess. °¿°
Stig
We see disability plates on cycles all the time here.
If it's your sticker and you need it then I'd use the spots. Just avoid the ones marked "van".
Lots of things look weird to those that can't see past the superficial .
Perfectly legal. Of course some tool may steal your plackard.....
AMAC
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Thanks guys for morphing this discussion as it appears I won't be getting another scooter anytime soon anyway unless I upgrade my SW. What could I possibly upgrade to from a SW? I'm guilty of materialism where I always feel a need for more. I need to be happy with what I have because what I have is pretty darn sweet.
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Thanks guys for morphing this discussion as it appears I won't be getting another scooter anytime soon anyway unless I upgrade my SW. What could I possibly upgrade to from a SW? I'm guilty of materialism where I always feel a need for more. I need to be happy with what I have because what I have is pretty darn sweet.
How about getting some new stuff for your SW? Corbin seat, led lights, heated grips, better windshield etc. That is one way to keep what you have and still be getting something a little better.
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[quote, Mr. Paul]How about getting some new stuff for your SW? Corbin seat, led lights, heated grips, better windshield etc. That is one way to keep what you have and still be getting something a little better.
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Great idea and have a little Christmas list growing.
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Merry Christmas Dan! ;D
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Merry Christmas Dan! ;D
Thanks Mr. Paul. Since I have a Givi top box, Givi windshield and Saddleman seat I think I'll get new grips and some winter textile riding over pants.
Thanks Mr. Paul.
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Sounds good Dan! I am getting ready for winter myself.
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Sounds good Dan! I am getting ready for winter myself.
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Since you have been a very good boy Mr. Paul, what is Santa bringing you?
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Heated grips and a mount for my phone/gps. And a pony!!! :D :D :D
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Heated grips and a mount for my phone/gps. And a pony!!! :D :D :D
A pony, like one that uses plant based fuel?
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Also thinking about a Power Commander fuel controller too. Should smooth out my acceleration, increase mileage and roll on power.
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Grom has no cargo space (no floor boards). Buddys are standard trans, expensive to maintain. Vespas are all REALLY expensive. Yamahas hard to get parts for, and expensive if you can find them. Hondas are feeble and slow. Small-wheel scooters require extra driving care. Kymcos are a good compromise once you jail-break the CDI rev-limiters.
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Hondas are feeble and slow.
If I get another small scooter it will probably be another Kymco. As for feeble and slow, perhaps for the smaller Honda scooters but not for my Honda Silverwing 600cc. It's a very powerful maxiscooter and will probably remain my main ride. I was passing someone yesterday on a state highway and looked down at my speedometer and saw 90 in a matter of seconds. If I had to have only one bike that would do it all for touring and urban riding it would be the SW. It's the swiss army knife of scooters. I finally got the Grom and Buddy off my brain, BTW. ;)
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Just took my Helix for a 330 mile trip in the N. Georgia, Tennessee, N. Carolina Mountains yesterday. Cruised 70 on the highway and kept up with the motorcycles on the twisties.
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Just took my Helix for a 330 mile trip in the N. Georgia, Tennessee, N. Carolina Mountains yesterday. Cruised 70 on the highway and kept up with the motorcycles on the twisties.
The Helix is an amazing scooter and came close to buying one. They're the bike that started Maxiscooters.
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The Helix is an amazing scooter and came close to buying one. They're the bike that started Maxiscooters.
If only they weren't so....
You know.
Stig
(Great scoot by all accounts. ...but geez!)