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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joebug on August 13, 2016, 07:49:52 PM
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So I want to purchase a new scooter...my local dealer has a few 2013 leftovers... a Super 8 150 and a Movie 150. I like the options on the Movie but since it's a discontinued scooter I'm afraid there aren't many accessories or performance upgrades. I could be wrong, so I came here to see what is up with the Movie...the super 8 is cool too but the 13 model has issues where I put my feet....not an open area for foot room... anyway....I'd post pictures but my files are too large...how do I resize them for this forum?. any guidance or input is appreciated...thanks...nice forum by the way
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I meant Super 8 150...no such thing as a 250...
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Hello Joebug, probably the biggest difference between these scooters is the engine. The Super 8 is a two valve design with carb and 10.3 HP. The Movie 150 is a four valve design with carb and 13.5 HP. That extra power means more pulling torque for hills and higher cruising speed in traffic. The Movie also has front and rear disk brakes as opposed to disk/ drum for the Super8. There may be fewer performance bits for the Movie but it already has an extra 3HP! The other specs that might figure in your decision is the tire size. The Super 8 has 14 in. wheels and the Movie 12in. so the Super 8 may be smoother riding on rough surfaces. Either one would be a good choice; it just is up to your personal likes and needs. And one more point, the 2013 style Super 8 is now a discontinued model although there are plenty around. The new Super 8 looks like the pic below.
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Hey Big blue, thanks for the response, the tire size does concern me but is it that big a deal? Also the foot area on the Movie is much larger, I find it cumbersome to get my feet in a good position on the Super 8, not sure what it's called but the design of the lower "wind screen" is just oddly shaped and limits the foot area. I like both models and I'm leaning towards the Movie because of the foot area. Is it possible to add larger wheels? I'd rather have the super 8 just because of the performance and accessory options that are available but the Movie seems to be more comfortable.
From the picture you posted I can see they changed the front end a bit and removed the whole dash assembly...that wasn't right, I like the dash on the 13 better. I'll post some pics as soon as I figure this out
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My vote is for the Movie. Not even close. More power. More room. Good luck on whatever you choose.
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Sorry about the multiple posts but I wanted to get some pictures up....everyone loves seeing the pics...well here are the two contenders ...I'm leaning towards the Movie 150 but the performance upgrades are limited, I'm open to everyone's thoughts etc...thanks.
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Sorry about the multiple posts but I wanted to get some pictures up....everyone loves seeing the pics...well here are the two contenders ...I'm leaning towards the Movie 150 but the performance upgrades are limited, I'm open to everyone's thoughts etc...thanks.
What "up grades" on a 4 stroke scooter? An after market pipe?
Take that $300>$450 and buy a bigger scooter - the $$ for aftermarket pipe gets you more noise , not more performance.
Darn few 'upgrades' will surpass the extra 3+HP and twin discs of the Movie, and if so will leave your scooter less reliable than stock..
If you are already wanting to upgrade either of these 4 stroke scooters - you probably need to be looking at a bigger scooter from the get-go.
Maybe a SYM or Burgman 200.
If you are OK with a 150 scooter - buy the Movie, enjoy the foot-room, and run the stock/snot out of it for a few years - then buy bigger if you need more....whatever.
Seen too many wanting to buy a scooter to make it go faster.
Buy bigger if you need faster. Bigger/faster scooters are safely designed to go faster with increased wheel-base, increased weight, better brakes, etc.
Or buy what you want and play with the parts. Some do that.
Stig
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The Movie looks really good and it would be my choice. Great color as well and a decent set of lights by the look of it.
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Movie hands down.
You'll need to build the super 8 just to get to the stock movie performance.
AMAC
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Thanks for the feedback..you guys are making my decision easier... seems the Movie is already upgraded above the Super 8. With the increased HP and the 4 valve head what else do I need? Definitely not noise! I don't know what upgrades I am looking for to be honest, I guess knowing there aren't many things for this scooter had me concerned. I'm learning that average Gy6 parts will work on it, being it's new I guess I won't need them too soon though.... It's just a bit disappointing that Kymco put 12" wheels on such a great scooter...but I'm sure there is an engineering reason. I had my eye on a used Aprilia Scarabeo 250 but it had10,000 miles on it...then I found out the same dealer had these leftover 2013 Kymco's for a few bucks more with warranty's ... correct me if I'm wrong but would you guys buy a new 2013 Kymco Movie 150 or a used 2006 Aprilia scarabeo 250?
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Two yrs of worry free warrantied Movie riding.....or faster big wheel riding on 10 yr old Italian beauty......
Hmmmmm
Do you need reliable fun transportation ....or excitement in your life??.....not that WOT on a Movie won't give you thrills.
Yes, be certain...so no buyer's remorse.
Seems like most B.R. in the scooter world comes from buying too small....second is buying used with issues..
Stig
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Thanks for the feedback..you guys are making my decision easier... seems the Movie is already upgraded above the Super 8. With the increased HP and the 4 valve head what else do I need? Definitely not noise! I don't know what upgrades I am looking for to be honest, I guess knowing there aren't many things for this scooter had me concerned. I'm learning that average Gy6 parts will work on it, being it's new I guess I won't need them too soon though.... It's just a bit disappointing that Kymco put 12" wheels on such a great scooter...but I'm sure there is an engineering reason. I had my eye on a used Aprilia Scarabeo 250 but it had10,000 miles on it...then I found out the same dealer had these leftover 2013 Kymco's for a few bucks more with warranty's ... correct me if I'm wrong but would you guys buy a new 2013 Kymco Movie 150 or a used 2006 Aprilia scarabeo 250?
The wheel size on a well engineered 150 is kind off a moot point. I've ridden the Movie and it's soilid as a rock at 60mph. As far as the Aprilla v Movie that's an apples/oranges comparison. New vs well used. More HP and bigger wheels vs a warrantee.
As far as Gy6 parts. Sounds like you may be coming from a China scoot. If you are you'll soon find that Kymcos get ridden more than they get fixed!
All the best.
AMAC
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Well, you guys seem to know your scoots... That Aprilia was in pieces when I got there yesterday, they said it needed some parts...lol. Didn't even hear it run. The movie started right up but still needs to go through their PDI before purchase...I rode it around the parking lot and it felt quite peppy, my only comparison though is my old Eton Beamer 50 2T ... My issue with the Movie is that it's already 4 model years old...if I were to buy it and drive off the lot, it already depreciated 4 years in 2 seconds. I'm not sure what these were selling for at the time they were new but I'm thinking I can get this Movie for around 2k out the door price... Does that sound reasonable? Also, accessories like luggage racks etc seem to be hard to find for this model. I appreciate all the comments, I believe if I were to pull the trigger on a new scoot....it would be this Movie.
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It is my experience that Kymco scooters are pretty much "upgraded" from the factory. There is VERY little you could do to increase their performance. I tried many things on my People 150 when I first got it and discovered the after-market performance parts actually decreased the performance. I returned to stock and am very happy. Get the Movie. Ride it and enjoy it knowing that it will out last and out perform 95 percent of the same class scooters out there. Just my humble opinion learned from real experience.
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Well, you guys seem to know your scoots... That Aprilia was in pieces when I got there yesterday, they said it needed some parts...lol. Didn't even hear it run. The movie started right up but still needs to go through their PDI before purchase...I rode it around the parking lot and it felt quite peppy, my only comparison though is my old Eton Beamer 50 2T ... My issue with the Movie is that it's already 4 model years old...if I were to buy it and drive off the lot, it already depreciated 4 years in 2 seconds. I'm not sure what these were selling for at the time they were new but I'm thinking I can get this Movie for around 2k out the door price... Does that sound reasonable? Also, accessories like luggage racks etc seem to be hard to find for this model. I appreciate all the comments, I believe if I were to pull the trigger on a new scoot....it would be this Movie.
Here's a rack for the Movie.
http://www.shadonline.com (http://www.shadonline.com)
2000.00 OTD... Where are you at if you don't buy it I will.
AMAC
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$2k out the door! That scoot was about $3200 MSRP when new so the depreciation has already taken place.
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Yeah about $2k otd! They want to unload them, they aren't bringing anymore scooters in and they need to reduce inventory...they have two 2013 compagno's too a 110i and a carb 110. Nice scooters but a little on the small side for me.. they have a lot of others but I couldn't make out what they were... all locked up in shipping containers. Fortunately I think I will be saving the Movie from being locked up and take her home. The one sales guy said it was a collectors item.. lol ..not sure if it falls into that category as of yet but ya never know. I couldn't find a specific rack on that link that was posted...you think the universal one will work well? Thanks
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For that price, you can't really go wrong with either scoot...Kymco makes great scoots. If you want more information/feedback, I suggest you browse the Movie 150 & Super 8 150 areas of this forum and see what people like/dislike about the scoots they bought. Good luck with whatever you purchase. If it helps, speed is not always what makes the ride most fun. Things like handling should also be considered. Also make sure the seat is comfortable. Based on what you've been saying about foot placement, it sounds like the Movie is the scoot you should be getting. I wouldn't worry too much about tire size, unless you plan to ride very poor roads with potholes, etc. The smaller wheels might be a little twitchier at higher speeds, but a lot of other things like wheelbase, trail, and weight also come into play. If you plan to ride at speeds above 50 mph most of the time, it might be a factor, but then I would consider a larger bike for less engine stress and more weight for stability....just my 2 cents..:)
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Kymco sells a rear luggage rack for the Movie which should work as a mounting base for more than a few top cases.
Stig
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:) I really do like that color and it is a very stylish looking scooter.
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I really like it too...all the posts on this thread and not one bad thing was said about it. I think it's a winner. Not sure why it didn't do well... it's sharp looking, more powerful, has nice features, ie.. auto gas cap realease, auto seat release, dual disk brakes, more HP, 4 valve head, etc..
Stig, I cannot find that rear rack on Kymco's site, do you have a link?
Thanks.
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Found this on the Movie; http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Kymco/Movie/Movie-150.html (http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Kymco/Movie/Movie-150.html)
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I really like it too...all the posts on this thread and not one bad thing was said about it. I think it's a winner. Not sure why it didn't do well... it's sharp looking, more powerful, has nice features, ie.. auto gas cap realease, auto seat release, dual disk brakes, more HP, 4 valve head, etc..
Stig, I cannot find that rear rack on Kymco's site, do you have a link?
Thanks.
Please explore the whole page....
http://kyps.kymco.com/kyglobal/accessories/access_product_list.html?mcatID=2752 (http://kyps.kymco.com/kyglobal/accessories/access_product_list.html?mcatID=2752)
Stig
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Hey Thanks for those links. I see the catalog but how would I order from it? Would I have to go to the dealer for these parts?
check this out here...http://www.kd-depot.com/UpLoadFiles/CatalogFileURI/20140314480060.pdf (http://www.kd-depot.com/UpLoadFiles/CatalogFileURI/20140314480060.pdf)
I really like the accessories on this one... these are the upgrades I was looking for. If I can obtain some of these goodies, it would be nice.
I hope to be in my new Movie by the end of the week!
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Well unfortunately the Movie is a little out of reach for me. The salesperson I was working with who no longer works at the dealership misled me by giving me wrong pricing. Seems this was going on for a little while and he was let go. The $2000 otd price was not what the dealer wanted to sell the scoot for. So, if anyone out there has deeper pockets than I do, this movie is still for sale.
I don't think the super 8 is going to fit me well being the footwell is so tight. So, I'm going to see if I can get into a used Like or People if I can find one.....there's always that Aprilia too... Hmmm more decisions....
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Used LIKE's should be avail. below $2000. Have seen new at that price....but who knows what the dealer will add to that.
Private sale. ..might be good...two yr warranty is fully transferable.
Be sure you'd be OK with a top speed @55....most cannot be wrung out past that.
The small People has small foot platform....LIKE is huge.
With end of riding season coming..might find very good deals. ..new or used.
Good luck
Stig
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I've got my eye on a used 2009 Kymco People 250 1600 miles... private sale... Around the 2K mark.. How are these scoots? is it priced correctly? very good condition, hardly any flaws at all.
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I've got my eye on a used 2009 Kymco People 250 1600 miles... private sale... Around the 2K mark.. How are these scoots? is it priced correctly? very good condition, hardly any flaws at all.
That's one of the best scooters kymco ever made, IMO.
Plenty of power, comfort ergos for most and a solid motor.
AMAC
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That's good to hear... it sure is a nice looking scooter, it's different than the other People models I have seen though, with a 250cc engine it should be a nice little ride.
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That's one of the best scooters kymco ever made, IMO.
Plenty of power, comfort ergos for most and a solid motor.
AMAC
Local used car lot still has a new ..repoed....250S...in his showroom.
Less than 10 miles on it.
Pretty red.
Been there for well over a year.
Warranty is gone since it was registered for the road yrs ago.
His price keeps going up and down....between $2k & $3k.
7 yrs old.
Stig
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Hey Stig
So this 2009 People S 250 I have my eye on has 1600 miles, red with rear luggage rack, original tires though.... guy said he'd take $1800... thoughts?
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One of the best all-purpose scoots ever made IMO. Check out the review on the Justgotascoot website. Perfect for commuting or weekend rides on back roads. I little limited for the interstate, but other highways are okay. Not even broken in yet with that mileage, as long as it wasn't just sitting most of that time.
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Hey Stig
So this 2009 People S 250 I have my eye on has 1600 miles, red with rear luggage rack, original tires though.... guy said he'd take $1800... thoughts?
Show him the cracked tire sidewalls and ask him nicely if he could do a bit better - since tires & install might run $175 to $250.
No marks, or broken panels, never been down?
Might be a good buy if pristine....but then I'm hard to please.
Stig
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I've got my eye on a used 2009 Kymco People 250 1600 miles... private sale... Around the 2K mark.. How are these scoots? is it priced correctly? very good condition, hardly any flaws at all.
Never had a 250, but I loved everything about my People 150. Great scooter, rock solid, very smooth ride on those 16" tires. I still miss it.....
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I have a 2009 super 8 150. I have size 12 feet the Super 8 has plenty of room for them. However, the 14" rear tire is an unusual size and I haven't been able to find any tires in that size here in the US other than the stock chen shin. I'd rather have the 12" tires of the Movie 150.
I'd take the Movie over the Super 8 anytime. Going to a bigger scooter of 200-250cc will allow you to ride on higher speed roads than either of the 150's. A 150 is great around town but not the ideal size if you want to go on longer trips.
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So, I pulled the trigger on the People S250, I couldn't believe how clean it was, barley a scuff on it, 1600 miles, I'm not sure if the tires were changed or not but they didn't have any cracks in them and looked new, Kenda brand...is that an original tire brand? Has a Givi rear luggage compartment,
Everything else was like new... Very nice guy offered to deliver ...getting it tomorrow...
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Congrats...I'm sure you will enjoy the People Scoot. Kenda tires are an OEM tire for many Kymco scooters, and if those are the original tires, I would recommend changing them at their age. The Givi box is a nice score. Ride safely and in good health.
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Nice score dude
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Beautiful scooter sir! Nice job!
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Good looking scooter, hope you have a lot of fun with it.
Paul
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Beautiful scooter!
At 1600 miles it is barely brocken in...!
Don't know what he paid to get it out the dealer's door onto the road.....maybe $3000 more than you paid.
At that condition and mileage. ..hearing it start and rev is probably all the test ride needed...or permitted.
Nice job!
Stig
(and yes...those are original tires...so think about that before you WOT it to 70 on the interstate@@!)
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Thanks for all the comments and info that got me this far...I'm patiently waiting for it now... It's like Christmas Day when you're 5 years old...lol
I'll be sure to change those tires.... Any recommendations?
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Thanks for all the comments and info that got me this far...I'm patiently waiting for it now... It's like Christmas Day when you're 5 years old...lol
I'll be sure to change those tires.... Any recommendations?
Michelin City Grips or Metzeler FeelFree scooter tires ...both have very good reports on here.
Stig
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+1 for the Michelin City Grips
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Alrighty then! I got the scooter and have been toying around with it all afternoon.... up and down the road here and there etc....what a nice little scooter, excellent acceleration and huge storage area under the seat and the givi box adds quite a bit too.... I've been reading the manual etc and just learning all the little details of it...I'm really liking this scooter and can't wait till I get it registered so I can take it for a longer spin....but definitely looking into those tires.... one thing I noticed is that there are blinkers built into the front but they don't function... has anyone hooked there's up to get theirs working? Probably better off asking on the People S250 thread.... anyway, great scooter glad I got this one...
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Looks like a great scooter. +2 on the City Grips.
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Blinkers built in the body are for the European market. The good old American DOT requires the ugly stem blinkers you have on your bike now. Probably can be converted to the lenses in the body but would require a little re-wiring.
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Yeah I can see the light housing behind the front vent but unsure of the size bulb/bulb holder that goes in there....the wiring would be easy to do....just have to figure out that bulb holder.. any ideas? Looks kind of small.... any place to view the European wiring diagram for clues?